The WSJ reports 14 of 15 points presented to Iran

The outlet reported 14 of 15 demands conveyed to Iran:

1. Iran must dismantle existing nuclear capabilities.
2. Iran must commit never to pursue nuclear weapons.
3. No uranium enrichment on Iranian territory.
4. Iran must hand its stockpile of enriched uranium to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
5. The Natanz, Isfahan and Fordo nuclear facilities must be dismantled.
6. The IAEA must be granted full access to Iran’s nuclear facilities.
7. Iran must abandon its “regional proxy paradigm.”
8. Iran must cease funding, directing and arming its proxies.
9. The Strait of Hormuz must remain open.
10. Iran’s missile program must be limited in both range and quantity.
11. Iran must limit its use of missiles to self-defense.

Iran would benefit from:

1. The end of sanctions imposed by the international community.
2. US assistance to advance its civilian nuclear program.
3. A “snapback” mechanism allowing for the automatic reimposition of sanctions if Iran fails to comply would be removed.

If accepted this would certainly be a major step forward and I heard on one channel that Iran’s Speaker is involved in these discussions, That provides significant constitutional credibility in a government breakdown situation.

But the military spokesmen are still making hostile threats and the Speaker has also made provocative comments, perhaps dealing with his own internal pressures.

So it’s possible Iran could in effect be dealing with a military coup attempt at some point, which would mean an internal military solution might still be required…but with much more likely support from other countries and from pro government internal forces.

Ask yourself how this would feel (assuming it happened) if the rebel group had control of nukes with sufficient range to reach London and Paris. Exactly the reason why rogue countries should not have nuclear weapons

Despite all the site stories about negotiation it seems that Paistan is co-ordinatin g t he negotiations and th e pressure of most Muslim countries support the above negotiation initiative, I am not sure what the result would be - but the fact is the Gaza ceasefire and future as negoitiated is on track.

As far as aI can make up - nobody knows who really is in ch arge in Iran at present, It is going to be interesting who will represent Iran at the Islamabad negotiations - and whether the Iran representaties have any power at all to negotiate an acceptable agreement.

A further uncertainty is the foreign proxies of Iran and their funding , That may even touch on Iran own domestic policies as to human rights. No more murder of protestors like happened whenever protests erupts in Iran.

S o desoite he idiocy on site we may see a real peoce initiative coming out,

Iran already rejected that immediately, They also denied any negotiations before that - other than the Truth Social posts of Trump

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So Shark you really believe Trump, Rubio and all the other US officials are simply lying….knowing full well in a few days that will be exposed.

Yes, I do believe they are lying. They have already been exposed. However, it is just Trump taking a dump on Truth Social, and his sycophantic toadies like Vance just have to play along.

I see Trump has just sent MAGA boots on the ground. So America is back into another costly war.

Iran is a horrible place to have a land war; it is so mountainous.

At least we will get another Netflix war hero movie. Saving Private Mohammed: The Liberation of Iranian Oil.

I wonder what the missing 15th point was. Probably giving control of the Strait to Trump's family business.

Trump is basically Putin, but with more firepower. Trump and Putin appear to be very good friends (or comrades). I would not be surprised if they are in league, jointly planning both operations in Ukraine and Iran.

Like Putin, Trump has offered a peace plan that Iran can't accept. That means MAGA boots on the ground.

I've been hearing some reports that Iran is willing to give up it's nuclear program but it's setting a very high price for it.

End of the war obviously but also the end of Israel's operation in Lebanon, official recognition that Iran controls the Straight of Hormuz, that are paid reparations and the US must remove it's entire military presence from the Gulf.

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So Shark you really believe Trump, Rubio and all the other US officials are simply lying….knowing full well in a few days that will be exposed.

Stated many times already: liberals share one common point with fascists: they have respect for nothing but power.

A common occurrence: liberals drop statements with nothing to back them up and expect them to be widely accepted.

Nothing on the way on how to reach the conclusion Trump has not been lying. Nothing on it.

On the other side, getting to the conclusion Trump has been lying is straightforward.

End of the war obviously but also the end of Israel's operation in Lebanon, official recognition that Iran controls the Straight of Hormuz, that are paid reparations and the US must remove it's entire military presence from the Gulf.

So no negotiation. Iran tells it is not negotiating. Which it does. When both sides drop demands on each other, it is the sign of an absence of a negotiated solution. And since Iran's demands came in reaction to the US demands...

Trump declared there were ongoing negotiations going super well and what emerged revealed the absence of negotiation. The US dropped their demands on Iran. No negotiation.

This crisis has clarified many things.

Globalisation is largely beneficial to the US: they have triggered a global crisis and others are absorbing the cost for the US. The US have not been suffering much while others have taken the full blunt.

Parts of the world, countries that are toasted are also revealed in plain light.

Japan: too deep in US debt scheme to dissociate, been humiliated by the US, and now coerced to tour the world to panhandle energy supply.

European countries: they traded a cheap energy supplier willing to use energy supply as leverage for an expensive energy supplier willing to use energy supply as leverage as the US have threatened the EU to cut European countries energy supply off if they do not submit. And this, in a crisis the US have triggered. The US are using the vulnerable european state the US have forced to kick European countries in the teeth. Very funny.

On the other hand, Iran has declared they re open the strait to non hostile ships, which means that hostile ships are the cause of the global crisis, which points fingers at the US and liberal Israel as the cause. Which provides a clear view on actors that can act according to that fact. Europe and Japan can not.

It is clear, thanks to Donald Trump.

"I've been hearing some reports that Iran is willing to give up it's nuclear program but it's setting a very high price for it.

End of the war obviously but also the end of Israel's operation in Lebanon, official recognition that Iran controls the Straight of Hormuz, that are paid reparations and the US must remove it's entire military presence from the Gulf"

TLDR; Keep bombing the IRGC for another month or two.

Fun fact - Iran have one of the highest average IQs in the world - 106

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How dare you put that on site. You are insulting the 60 IQ of SB - who might have had a better mark until he lost his thinking ability as a result of brainwashing. Difficult because they did not wipe out the shit his brain used to operate - it aggraavated it,

Iran, Cuba, Venezuela all countries that could be prospering with smart citizens…..hijacked by 19th century style dictators.And because of their balmy anti Trump sentiment, the Woke set are lined up with the dictators against their own people. And yet they despise Christianity as a fairy tale. Totally confused puppies,

Iran, Cuba, Venezuela all countries that could be prospering with smart citizens…..hijacked by 19th century style dictators.And because of their balmy anti Trump sentiment, the Woke set are lined up with the dictators against their own people. And yet they despise Christianity as a fairy tale. Totally confused puppies,

Ah yes we are lining up behind dictators that's exactly what we are doing. We love dictators, besides if you're anti Trump that means you must be pro dictators...like the way we all support Putin right? It must be great not having to think for yourself, being told by your side what the other side believes and never actually have to listen to the other side says. Zero critical thinking or mental effort required.

I also still love the fact that you lot are denial about Trump leaving the Venezuela regime in power, just with a new leader.

The reports coming out of Venezuela are that if anything oppression of the people has increased.

Yet we are the confused puppies...gee i wonder how the MAGA supporters who voted for him on his no more wars pledge are feeling right now.

But hey thank god the US didn't vote Kamala right...things would be so much worse by now.

We love dictators, besides if you're anti Trump that means you must be pro dictators...like the way we all support Putin righ

‘’But Trump was trying to make a deal with Putin, so you were automatically anti Putin. To find the Woke position ….figure out where Trump is…then regardless of any common sense or morality define the opposite position and that’s where you and the Woke set are. Mindless dislike.

Yet we are the confused puppies...gee i wonder how the MAGA supporters who voted for him on his no more wars pledge are feeling right now.

Surveys shows 90% of Maga supporters support the war, there, now you don’t need to wonder