Top 30 Countries by Covid-19 death rate

Boris Johnson is useless. He does not have the skill to run a country- when compared to the likes of Tony Blair. His mantra is "Get Brexit done". 

Now that he has done his job, we can expect his resignation later in the year.
A right-wing populist that followed the Trump handbook promising the working class a better deal. 

Some of the Conservatives do not want to run the government, instead, they just want to make favourable business conditions for the richest 2% of the population - such as the peerage and those that have inherited land. 

People are so sick of lockdowns, that everyone is becoming a CovIdiot. Maybe the Tories can outsource the running of the government to Tony Blair until the crisis is over. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-death-rate-coronavirus-b1788817.html

South Africa is probably under reported/diagnosed...I read an article where they speculated that the actual death rate is probably double the reported rate.

Nothing to do with Boris.....London is the issue, and a vulnerable population. Six months ago Germany was the poster child....now not so much. Blaming one politician for this is politics not medicine.

FFS Anger when will you learn it’s ‘you’re’ not ‘your’ which is the possessive. We can forgive you Irish chappies your nasal accents, but don’t butcher the written word.

No wrong again Shark....the highest death rates per million pop in the US are in New York, NewJersey and Massachusetts all Democratic states. California  another Democratic state has had the largest number of  cases and has more than twice the active cases of any other state.

Much as you and Anger want to pin this on conservatives it’s a function of density/climate and social preferences,

I'm might butcher the odd written word, but you consistently butcher science, logic and common sense.

You can't debate can you? You just resort to feeble and transparent attempts at insulting and trolling or diversion by focusing on trivial topics. As Donald Trump would say...SAD!

Just seen this online now.

Sums it up pretty well.

Another glaringly unfunny Clown joke online. 

Is it any politicians fault if most of the country still refuses to take notice of the rules ? As arcane as it is, masks need to be worn and parties need to cease. That, in many cases, is not happening. We also have a very real issue of overcrowding and houses of multiple occupancy; both causes of COVID running rife in some areas. The other major issue is that we are a transport hub, with people from all over the world passing through on a daily basis. 

Now we have a top scientist saying data shows 72 per cent of ethnic minorities won’t have the jab when it’s offered, yet these are in the highest risk cohort. Unless the Government decides to make it a legal requirement that we all have to be vaccinated, I don’t see how that is going to help matters. 

Do you honestly think the figures from India, Russia, Brazil, Africa, America and even China itself, are less than the UK ? Really ? Because I don’t. 

Put aside your hatred of Boris Johnson and his role in Brexit and think about the difficulties of the job in hand. And think about the fact that he too was very unwell and still doesn’t look too grand. 

I’m no Conservative or Boris fan and I would have done things differently if I’d been in charge. But bitching about it really helps no-one. 

Your falling into the government trap of it pushing most of the blame back onto the public in an effort to shield itself.

Do the public bare some response-ability for the spread of Covid?, yes absolutely, a significant minority are not obeying the rules and that is having an effect.

But the current government in the UK has consistently botched many aspects of the handling of the pandemic.

Just to name a few off the top of my head.

Firstly it opted to try to implement a herd immunity strategy which it had to back peddle after a week or so allowing the virus to spread and squandering the three week infection lag it had to mainland Europe which is could as advanced warning to make decisions on.

Then it failed to ramp up testing for ages, consistently failing to achieve its testing targets and lying about the numbers tested.

It failed to get the required number of contact tracers in time.

Botched the importing of PPE from Turkey.

Declined to work with the EU on securing medical supplies due to Brexit mentality.

Inconsistent and conflicting messaging.

Consistently ignoring the scientific advice, countless back tracking on public health measure. This isn't criticism in hindsight, the opposition and the media have pointed this out before its happens. Starmer keeps pointing out in PMQ's that Johnson needs to follow the scientific advice and implement the restrictions when they are asked for, not weeks later.

But Johnson just consistently dithers and delays, and only implements the advice weeks later when the damage is already done.

Then is their other stuff like the "World Beating Tracing App" and "Project Moonshot" and Johnson claiming the UK is among the best or the best at the world in its handling of the pandemic. Odd claim when the UK has one of the worst death rate and poorest economy purpose of nearly every major economy in the world.

I'm not sure why you're listing other countries, yes they may have have handled the pandemic badly or are covering up the true numbers, but that doesn't excuse the UK governments handling of the pandemic.

Its not that I dislike Johnson for Brexit as the reason I criticize him and his governments handling of the pandemic, though the UK's arsing about in the Brexit negotiations over the course of last year no doubt distracted both the UK and EU somewhat from dealing with the pandemic.  I'm basing my criticism on the evidence, sure any government can make a mistake but the level of consistency in making mistake by Johnson and his government have made goes well beyond trying your best and failing, it shows ineptitude. Absolutely governing a country in a pandemic is a massive challenge even for the very best leaders and no country has come close to get everything right. Many countries across the world have made mistakes with this pandemic  my own country included and again not everything bad relating to the pandemic in the UK is the governments fault. But I do think the UK government most take a huge share of the blame here.

I also understand where you coming from when you say bitching about it doesn't help and constructive criticism is indeed more helpful. But when are you allowed criticize the government or do you have to remain silent even if you believe the government will continue to make mistakes.

‘I can assure you my sense of humour is well developed’......it sure sounds like it. ‘He knows how to fact check me’.....hahaha, when, how?

Anyway your arguments about governments that do it right versus wrong is  simplistic. In the US we have 52 States each approaching the virus in a unique way. California is closest to the model you favour.....it has advantages of climate and a lower density than the East Coast.....and right now it’s among the worst.

The causal factors for success are much more complex, but having a huge minority population in dense living conditions ....as in London....doesn’t help. The English approach has been no better or worse than other major countries. Probably better, because at least they have been active in developing vaccines.