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Trump's Delusions

Started by Devil's Advocate109 REPLIES1,559 VIEWS· 06 Feb 2025, 09:09
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Feb 2025, 09:28
#81
09 Feb 2025, 09:28#81

Whaha you mean like accept DEI, trans agendas, indoctrination of kids into a sexual mindset, reparations...

And if you disagree with any of it you're a racist, homophobic, xenophobic bigot scumbag?

Oh, yeah...I'm sure everybody can feel the love.

 

The entire left agenda is based on deconstructive socialism, guilt and oppression of merit through race and gender identity.

 

Clown

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Feb 2025, 10:03
#82
09 Feb 2025, 10:03#82

Plum 

I tried to sumaiz what leading Democrats think of their own Party - it does not lok good for the Prty and its future,   

What BB fails to understand that real  Democratsdo not believe in bribery an corruption.

As to SA larg segments of the Colored and India Communities support the ANC in 1994 - but after that the same communities hae totally deserted the Party due to poor service delivery, bribery and corruption  as well as reverse race discrimination that was part and parcel of the ANC policies since 2007.

But what is worse the ANC losta ctive support of Blacks as well - tey merelys tayed away from voting for the ANC in the last election when only  33% of the Black registered voters acually turned up to vote 

 Tha in fact is a bad sign for the ANC as is a regular occurrence wher freedom ighting parties lost population support and vanish from sie - eg Ghana, Zambia and a numbe of other countries as well.

        

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
09 Feb 2025, 10:40
#83
09 Feb 2025, 10:40#83

Diversity= (variety).....  one vokking word results in this diatribe 

DEI, trans agendas, indoctrination of kids into a sexual mindset, reparations...

And if you disagree with any of it you're a racist, homophobic, xenophobic bigot scumbag?

Ja/Nee julle autocrats ................ s.o.h. totally absent.

Your missus should give you the heave-ho.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Feb 2025, 10:44
#84
09 Feb 2025, 10:44#84

 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Feb 2025, 10:52
#85
09 Feb 2025, 10:52#85

Draad my family, friends & acquaintances are a mengsel of colour, creed or political belief & I'd be a lonely soul if all of em folk needed to support my opinions before becoming my friend.

Mine too.

 

That's the difference between you autocrats or us democrats. With us good guys, diversity is die ding. Love is in the air. Nothing like the ugliness portrayed by your batshit fwit convicted felon.

...nothing wrong with diversity...but it's totally evil to use it as an excuse to discriminate against a vast group of people...and we're not the autocrats...libertarian is all about live and let live...

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
09 Feb 2025, 11:29
#86
09 Feb 2025, 11:29#86

...nothing wrong with diversity...but it's totally evil to use it as an excuse to discriminate against a vast group of people.

Yes we only want the best and brightest and best suited to a job, chosen on merit alone.

Also we want R.F Kennedy Junior to run the health department. 

 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Feb 2025, 11:49
#87
09 Feb 2025, 11:49#87

It stings né.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Feb 2025, 16:34
#88
09 Feb 2025, 16:34#88

Summing up the claims are either true or true but need to be taken in context…ie there is an excuse the woke set think is reasonable. 

So here we have Ireland robbing the US tax payer with their shameful tax haven and now telling the US taxpayer it’s okay for their hard earned tax dollars to go to Syrians, Moroccans and the Taliban.

Cool!

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
09 Feb 2025, 18:10
#89
09 Feb 2025, 18:10#89

Summing up the claims are either true or true but need to be taken in context…ie there is an excuse the woke set think is reasonable. 

Moz continuing his descent into Mike levels of dishonesty and stupidity.

So here we have Ireland robbing the US tax payer with their shameful tax haven 

LMAO, you know Moz when Moz is angry and doesn't have any sort argument when has bring up Ireland's tax system. He's like one of the Z-Bots online retards who defends the Russian invasion of Ukraine with...but but but the Iraq War!

and now telling the US taxpayer it’s okay for their hard earned tax dollars to go to Syrians,  Moroccans

As I said before if people want to argue against foreign aid as a concept in general, well argue that point, but I guess a mature conversation of the plus and minus of foreign aid is beyond you at this point.

and the Taliban.

Just an outright lie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Feb 2025, 22:12
#90
09 Feb 2025, 22:12#90

 Stav

Secretary of State Rubio had many years of membership of the Foreign Affairs and in that perio came across many complaints from Embassadors who c omplained about US  Aid funding projects in direct opposition to what negotiated af reements have been  reached,   

He went on  to state that it  was virtually impossible to get coherent information on funding from them as to funding of projects.    The attitude of USAID was that hey make the decisionsand nobody has to answer to Congress,   

That led to fund projects on what USAID would fund based on IDEALOGICAL  an not Doplomatic rlatinship woth ther coumtries,    My career as a Public Servant always was that you mus t when asked to do ssso wold accept responsile for actions and provided the backgrond of issues - there would not be a problem.   Refusal to comply amounts to insubordination and he wanted USAID closed down on that basis, 

 You do not know things you should know about a certain program  George Soros donate huge funds to:-

$27 million to the George Soros prosecutor fund

George Soros is the biggest funder of te Democrats,    One of his major effots is to fund the election expenses of District Attorneys and State Attorney Generals must keep to his instructions as to free bail within 24 hours of arrest andcharges are not laid fomally.

So George Soros' son aferwards had monthly meetings in te WH and WH Legal Advisers and Justice Department officers to ensure his fathers' egulations are at all time adhered to.     

In any event the above reference to prosecution is lead by the election funding of "Prosecuter" refer to the funding of election expenses and means ZERO else. 

The above are proven facts based on the register of people entering the and the regulations he wanted applied and injus tice followed,   

The books will now be audited after years of non-audit of USAID books and that payment traced ro Soros election funding of DA's he might as wellflee from the USA,    If that is proven USAID broke show many laws and they will have 30 years in jail each.          

             

 

       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Feb 2025, 22:42
#91
09 Feb 2025, 22:42#91

There you go Anger….now find a source that discredits this man:

 

WASHINGTON — A substantial amount of U.S. aid intended for Afghanistan has ended up in the hands of the Taliban, according to John Sopko, the former head of the U.S. Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR).

Speaking to Fox News, Sopko said that because the United States no longer has personnel on the ground in Afghanistan, aid money is flowing into the country through the United Nations and other international organizations—without direct oversight.

“We know it is going to continue because, unfortunately, we have nobody on the ground,” Sopko said.

Sopko described systemic problems in U.S. foreign aid oversight, particularly within the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).

“The problem in Afghanistan is across the board,” he said. “When I first came to Washington in 1982 and looked at USAID, it was a broken agency back then and continues to be a broken agency.”

He noted that while some USAID employees assisted SIGAR in monitoring U.S. reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan, critical issues failed to reach policymakers in Washington.

“They built schools but never checked if there were teachers,” he said. “They built hospitals but never looked to see if there was water, medicine, or even patients.” He described U.S. reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan as a “delusion” detached from realities on the ground.

Sopko’s comments come as President Donald J. Trump moves to drastically scale back U.S. foreign aid. His administration has proposed retaining only about 300 USAID employees out of a global workforce of 10,000 and has suspended U.S. foreign assistance, including aid to Afghanistan, for at least three months.

The cuts have raised concerns about the future of humanitarian efforts in Afghanistan, where millions remain dependent on foreign assistance.

 

…….

You may apologize if you wish.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
10 Feb 2025, 00:32
#92
10 Feb 2025, 00:32#92

There you go Anger….now find a source that discredits this man:

You of course I know meant aid being intentionally provided. But hey why stop being dishonest now.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Feb 2025, 04:24
#93
10 Feb 2025, 04:24#93

And that’s the spirit  in which I respond. The USAID leadership probably guessed the Taliban would receive a goodly portion  of the funds but they provided it anyway. In practical  terms the same result as if it was formally earmarked for the Taliban. Try admitting you were wrong.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Feb 2025, 06:16
#94
10 Feb 2025, 06:16#94

How do accidentally give money to the Taliban?

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 08:15
#95
10 Feb 2025, 08:15#95

"Aag nonsense...there's no way at really verifying these things...it depends on which sources you decide to believe."

Correct, where there is smoke, there is fire, and let's keep in mind that this is only what has been discovered in the first month...... and quite frankly right now, I don't much trust anything that the Biden administration says........ and even so.... if  hypothetically only 50 - 75% of these statements are true, it tells a broader story and paints a very clear picture for anyone reading this information of what has been happening with the American tax payer's money..

If anything, all it does re-emphasise, is that if you do seriously believe that the USA's aid is being exploited by countries around the world, like so many people do believe.....then it is not some imagined grievance like Stav would want you to belive.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 08:15
#96
10 Feb 2025, 08:15#96

Duplicate

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Feb 2025, 08:18
#97
10 Feb 2025, 08:18#97

You mean to say that aid money coming to SA doesn't buy Range Rover's for ANC bosses...

 

Gosh, the world really doesn't work how I thought it did.

 

 

 

 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 08:21
#98
10 Feb 2025, 08:21#98

"Now let me be clear, I'm not saying in certain case there hasn't been fraud and American hasn't been taking advantage or that each of the above was the absolute best case use of foreign aid funds." 

No, you just stated quite clearly that it is some "imagined grievance"

Now you are back tracking ......again....

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 08:22
#99
10 Feb 2025, 08:22#99

"Because that's insane logic. If your making the claim, the onus is on you to prove it, not the other side to disprove it, otherwise you can literally say anything about someone or accuse them of anything you want."

You mean like all your other incorrect previous assumptions..... LMAO

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 09:23
#100
10 Feb 2025, 09:23#100

"As I said before if people want to argue against foreign aid as a concept in general, well argue that point, but I guess a mature conversation of the plus and minus of foreign aid is beyond you at this point."

LMAO

No, a mature conversation would start with you admitting that you were wrong and that there is no imagined grievance about the exploitation of foreign aid from the USA, and that it is a very .... very real issue.

Your ducking and diving of this statement is ridiculous.... just admit that you got it horrendously wrong.... again.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 09:24
#101
10 Feb 2025, 09:24#101

"You mean to say that aid money coming to SA doesn't buy Range Rover's for ANC bosses..."

Of course it doesn't Plum..... never eva

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 09:32
#102
10 Feb 2025, 09:32#102

"This idea that America alone is bearing a unjustified burden when it comes to foreign aid or that it's uniquely been taken advantage off just does not stand up to scrutiny."

There you go again.....

Who ever raised this idea that you are talking about here about America being alone and bearing an unjustified burden?

Just more bullshit from you

You are just trying to move the goal posts again..... very slyly.

The only issue that was disputed here was you saying that the exploitation of aid was imagined.... which is very very clearly isn't.

So stop trying to now make it out that someone is saying that "only" American aid is being exploited and that it is some unjustified burden.... not one single person ever said that

It's very obvious that a lot of aid from many different countries has the risk of being exploited in some way.

 

 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
10 Feb 2025, 09:45
#103
10 Feb 2025, 09:45#103

Just to clarify, here was your original post

"The whole world is critical of Trump's action. Its just disgraceful bullying on his part and for what, some stupid imagined grievance that the whole world is exploiting America. America is already the largest and most powerful economy in the world by far, yet its somehow being exploited. Ridiculous carry on"

So yes, you got this one horribly wrong, unless you still believe that America is not being exploited.

Trump is 100% correct in believing that his country is being exploited, and has acted accordingly.... as any good president should.

Lol ....  yet its somehow being exploited. Ridiculous carry on

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Feb 2025, 18:16
#104
11 Feb 2025, 18:16#104

Trump is a legend...I love my country to bits...my Boland, Wynland, hartland, my WP...grew up in the 80's thinking I will have to join the army to protect it when I finished school...had no problem with it being my duty...roll forward a few years, and the dream of a rainbow nation took shape...we went all in and abolished Apartheid in the 92 Referendum...and instead of improving, things have been gradually going down hill ever since...yes there have been vast improvements of living conditions for many people, but the country as a whole has been deteriorating gradually for the last 30 years...I had enough...can't do this anymore...I pray God for the strength to use this opportunity to get my family and myself out...I can already see a huge drive to prevent the exodus, but it has to be done...thanks Mr. President...thanks for the opportunity, I pray many to take it...our time in the greatest place on earth has ended ...time to move on...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Feb 2025, 18:31
#105
11 Feb 2025, 18:31#105

Mooi DA…..this lad from a country that left the fighting to others in WW2, and benefits from providing a tax haven, is just too full of virtue signaling.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Feb 2025, 19:08
#106
11 Feb 2025, 19:08#106

"Mooi DA…..this lad from a country that left the fighting to others in WW2, and benefits from providing a tax haven, is just too full of virtue signaling."


The amount of time and effort he puts into sustaining his narrative is bizarre...somebody did a real job on him...all that effort, just to be blinded by his blind spots..

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Feb 2025, 22:59
#107
11 Feb 2025, 22:59#107

What he hadn’t grasped and I tried to explain this to him, is that Chat goes to all the sources and provides all the viewpoints. His habit of winning an argument by selecting his sources just doesn’t work anymore.


Nice chap, just indoctrinated.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
12 Feb 2025, 07:17
#108
12 Feb 2025, 07:17#108

The US Embassy in SA must be busy-busy.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Feb 2025, 08:17
#109
12 Feb 2025, 08:17#109

"The amount of time and effort he puts into sustaining his narrative is bizarre...somebody did a real job on him...all that effort, just to be blinded by his blind spots.."

The constant regular attempts to move the goal posts, to prevent further embarrassment to himself is quite funny though

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Feb 2025, 14:31
#110
12 Feb 2025, 14:31#110

Now Elon Musk has just announced that there are 150 year olds still receiving social security ....

As Elon says, these people should either be dead, or extremely famous.... one or the two.

Madness what gross irregularities and fraud they have picked up so soon

I 100% believe that this Biden administration will repeatedly be shown up to be the worst ever presidency that the US has ever seen.


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