Trump's Delusions

Fuck it and you beleive Poitico with their hands in the corrupt piggy bank the Democrats operated and find it acceptable.

As to the Guardian  Article it is also plain BS,   Trump was paid $16 Million dollars in compensation by ABC for libeland there are another claim ABC has to account for and that is likely to cost the liars another $100 million in damages.

Then there are two claims outstanding against NBC and CNN for lying for years about Trump and the fact is the two news agencies can easily go out of existence as a result of  the media shit and lies  they spread.

So you are welcome to remain an idiot for the rest of your life.                

ouMaaik , you're a mess/mass of contradictions & politically you don't know shit from sugar. Your hero worship of Putin says it all .

Onberispelik.

Sorry to disappoint  you - but I never hero-worshipped Putin.   What i did not hero-worshipped was the bribery and corruption installed by t e Democratic Party in the USA .   

I agreed with the SA Minister Fioreign Affairs when she showed Blinken the door after she told him the Ukraine war could have been avoided through negotiation - but that would have stopped the great looting exercise by the USA politicians and bureaucrats that became exposed over time.        

Blob why are you getting so upset. It's the US. It's like Trump is such a huge personality that South Africans have suddenly forgotten that our own country is going to shit faster every day. We just dodged a massive bullet with Eskom not getting their 34% tariff hike. That would have had far more dire consequences for the country than anything Trompie is up to.

Agreed Pakie, but Bob is absolutely obsessed with proving Trump is wrong and bad ... amongst others' on this forum.

Which of course.... makes all these latests revelations, and the many others I am sure will follow.... so incredibly hilarious, because I can only imagine the torture they are going through, lol

Blo...its not that Trump is always correct, fair or balanced.

It's just that you've been brainwashed into believing that he is always wrong about everything.

I'm pretty sure that's literally one of the definitions of TDS.

I'm just perplexed, because I'm pretty sure that you consider yourself reasonably logical...how you never question it? Don't you ever sit back and wonder how your mind got into the state it's in? I mean, a) you appear obsessed with Trump and b) proving to the world what a bad man he is. 

Think about who you were before Trump ran for president. Did you ever a) care so much about a president or presidential candidate and b) think about them so much that your views on them basically took over your personality? 

All I'm saying is, think about it. 

The same old story from the TDS morons when they cannot accept the truth they fall back on one or other lame democrat BS accusation, January 6th for example.

FOUR MORE YEARS...........

"All the above pales into insignificance compared to the batshit fuckwit's criminal behaviour on Jan6 '21. The pisspoor loser was a fucking disgusting abomination."

No it doesn't...take a step back...you're too invested...get some help...it's unnatural how this is clearly bothering you.

"It's just that you've been brainwashed into believing that he is always wrong about everything."

It's called hate, for the hell of me, I can't understand why...hate is always wrong...

"

My question for all Trumpanzees please : answer yes or no only

Do you agree with Trump that the election was stolen ?"

Don't manipulate me with a Y/N question, it's childish and stuppid...2020 ... no credible evidence presented for it being stolen, but the opposite hasn't been proven either...if you look at the numbers,  it's lank fishy...probably stolan, but in the absence of tangible evidence, it's just an unsubstantiated claim.

Here is a diagnosis of Blo's mental state, according to chat GPT.

Query -

Hating Trump was fashionable 5 years ago. But there are still people that believe showing their disdain for Trump at every turn adds perceived depth to their character. As it become less fashionable these people subconsciously recognise that they need to broadcast their Trump disdain more and more loudly to gain the same credit they got before. Equate this to an extinction burst for me.

ChatGPT- 

An extinction burst occurs when a previously reinforced behavior suddenly stops receiving reinforcement, leading to a temporary increase in the intensity or frequency of that behavior before it eventually fades away.

In the case of performative Trump disdain, the reinforcement was once social approval, credibility, or a sense of moral or intellectual superiority. Five years ago, expressing anti-Trump views was a reliable way to signal intelligence, virtue, or being on the right side of history in certain social circles. However, as time has passed and the discourse has shifted, the social currency of hating Trump has diminished and it no longer guarantees the same level of admiration or validation.

Recognising this loss of reinforcement subconsciously, some individuals engage in an extinction burst where they intensify their anti-Trump signalling, making their disdain louder, more frequent, and more dramatic in an attempt to regain the validation they once received effortlessly. This can manifest as excessive virtue signalling, exaggerated outrage, or inserting Trump into discussions where he is no longer relevant.

Eventually, as the reinforcement continues to decline and society moves on, most of these individuals will either abandon the behaviour (as it is no longer rewarding) or adapt their signalling to new fashionable causes that offer fresh social currency.

Interesting, makes sense. So we have Blob, Hysteria, Time stamp and Anger diagnosed with TDS. Are there stages of this disease. Perhaps Hysteria has reached Stage 3.

The best analogy I can think of is an old mate of mine has just been bitten by a rabid seal surfing  in False Bay. I kid you not. The shock of that must be somewhat akin to the initial onslaught of TDS. Sadly unlike rabies there is no known treatment for TDS.

I've mentioned this before, but I've never seen anything quite like this, so many people turned into zombies.

Blo can barely say a word without it being about Trump. It's like an involuntary tic at this point, a reflex he has no control over.

He doesn't live in the U.S., and very little of what Trump does will ever affect him, yet it's all he talks about.

If you asked Blo why, he'd probably say something like, "Because he's a batshit, scumbag, lying, criminal, egotistical, fat, orange coward."

But that doesn't actually answer the question. It tells you what he thinks of Trump, not why he thinks and talks about him this much.

So we're left to speculate.

Has it just become a hobby? Is it virtue signaling, shaped by a media landscape that rewards outrage, where people have been conditioned to believe that the more loudly they hate Trump, the better a person they are? Or is it something deeper, something we don't fully understand yet, a mental aberration driven by the sheer volume of algorithm-fueled media consumption?

It's honestly fascinating to watch.

There's a PhD in anthropology just waiting to be written on Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I'm convinced that modern algorithms have completely dismantled the barriers that used to keep our tribal instincts in check. It's like every single obstacle to triggering ritualized outrage has been stripped away, and those most affected now perform their outrage ritual at the mere mention of Trump's name.

And I refuse to believe that's accidental. Someone, somewhere, engineered this outcome.

Over the years, I've done some experimenting, just casually bringing Trump up in conversation in a neutral way, usually with some harmless, non-political statement.

Next time you're at a dinner party, try saying, "It was Barron Trump's birthday last week."

Make sure you have a good view of people's faces. You'll notice that about 20-50% of them will have an immediate, visceral reaction, facial expressions tightening, body language shifting, maybe even someone blurting out something hateful, as if on cue.

Then there'll be a few who just smirk.

Those are the ones I'm actually interested in. Not because they might be Trump supporters, but because they know what's about to happen. They're aware, at least subconsciously, that the programming is about to kick in for the 20-50%, and they're just waiting for it to unfold.

I got Chat to extrapolate on my post...

"This phenomenon ties directly into behavioral conditioning and mass psychogenic response. Social and political discourse, especially in the digital age, is shaped by operant conditioning, where people are rewarded (with social validation, likes, and engagement) for expressing outrage and punished (through social exclusion or criticism) for neutrality or dissent. Over time, this reinforcement loop hardwires emotional triggers into individuals, making their responses almost reflexive.

Additionally, mirror neurons—which help humans learn by observing others—play a role in amplifying these behaviors within groups. When outrage is constantly modeled and reinforced in one's social or media environment, it becomes instinctive. This is why the reactions to a simple, neutral mention of Trump can be immediate and involuntary—the conditioned response has bypassed rational processing and become embedded at a deeper cognitive level.

Those that smile - This is where the real evidence of programming lies. The fact that some people expect the reaction—often smirking before it even happens—shows just how ingrained and predictable the response has become. It means they’ve witnessed the ritualized outrage so many times that they can now identify the exact triggers that will set it off. This isn’t just random emotional volatility; it’s a learned pattern of behavior playing out in real-time.

More importantly, their anticipation of the response suggests that the programming isn’t just affecting the 20-50% who react viscerally—it’s so widespread and consistent that even neutral observers recognize the pattern and instinctively brace for it. This level of predictability is the hallmark of conditioned behavior, evidence that these reactions aren’t entirely organic but rather the result of repeated social reinforcement, media priming, and algorithm-driven amplification."

Do you see the things you make me think, Blo?

I read the wording. Looks like it'll basically allow white SAcans refugee status in the US.

Pretty hectic. 

Okay lets go through these one by one. This is going be good.

$520 million for ESG consultants in Africa

Well according to chat GPT

As of now, there is no credible evidence or official reports supporting the claim that USAID spent $520 million on ESG consultants in Africa.

$45 million for DEI scholarships in Burma

Technically this is true but lacks context. The purpose of this funding was too provide quality educational opportunities for young community leaders in Burma, especially those from marginalized and vulnerable groups, strengthening democracy in the long run by training future leaders; creating a favorable impression of the U.S. in order to counter China; and improving ties between Myanmar and its regional neighbors and when it comes to the terminology “diversity” it reflected the program’s goal to help staunch decades of ethnic conflict by ensuring “all ethnic groups feel they are being treated fairly and have a stake in democracy, 

$47 thousand for a trans opera in Columbia

False, was not funded by USAID, a $25,000 grant was given by the US state Department to a University in Colombia to stage an opera called As One a critically well received and well known opera that was made by Americans. The rest of the funding from the opera came from other sources.

 $32 thousand for a transgender comic book in Peru

False, again USAID did not fund this, but it was again a grant to Peruvian education department by the US State Department under the guise of public diplomacy to cover the cost of a creating a tailored made LGBT (it was not specifically transgender) comic that addressed social and mental health issues.

$3.25 million dollars funding the British Broadcasting Corporation media.

Misleading and lacks context. This money was provided to the British Broadcasting Corporation Media Action which is a charity that is completely separate from the state funded BBC News. The BBC Media Action group is a a charity entirely funded by donations and promotes freedom of the press around the world.

 $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia workplaces

Mostly true, though the funding that was provided was actually $1.1 million. This was given to a Serbian group called Grupa Izadji who's stated goal was too " was to raise the perception among employers and the broader Serbian public that the economic engagement of all individuals, including LGBTQI+ persons, yields positive effects for the economy and creates better conditions for economic growth and development"

USAID has tried to improve civil society in Serbia as interest groups could advocate with the government on reforms. LGBTQ people faced discrimination, so one area of focus was ensuring acceptance of Belgrade Pride, an annual parade that previously was canceled after threats of violence. The 2024 parade was peaceful, and the government is discussing legislation on same-sex partnerships. 

 $70 thousand for a DEI musical production in Ireland.

False again, this was money approved by the US state department for an event hosted by the US embassy in Ireland.  Embassy hosted events are common occurrences in many countries around the world.

 $20 million for a Sesame Street in Iraq

This one is true.

 $56 million to boost tourism in Egypt & Tunisia

Mostly true, $50 million was granted to promote tourism in Tunisia. No money was provided to boost tourism in Egypt.

 $27 million to the George Soros prosecutor fund

Misrepresentation of the group the money was provided too. The money was provided to the Tides Foundation an American left leaning donor advised fund that manages about $1.4 Billion dollars worth of assets.. George Soros has dominated to the group to the tune of at least $3.5 million but he wasn't the group founder. 

$40 million to build schools in Jordan

True, but I'm not sure what the problem would be here. Isn't that exactly the sort of thing USAID should be funding?

 $11 million to tell Vietnam to stop burning trash

Most disingenuous wording ever.

In 2021, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) announced a $11 million initiative aimed at improving waste management and helping to reduce the harmful effects of open burning of trash in Vietnam.

The funding was part of a broader effort to reduce environmental pollution and address climate change. The program focused on reducing the open burning of waste, which contributes to air pollution, health hazards, and greenhouse gas emissions. The initiative aimed to promote better waste management practices, increase recycling, and improve public awareness about the negative environmental and health impacts of burning trash.

This assistance was intended to help Vietnam adopt more sustainable waste management practices and reduce the environmental and public health risks associated with burning waste, which is still common in certain areas of the country.

 $27 million for reintegration gift bags for deported Central Americans

This one is also true.

 $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam

Misleading.

USAID launched a $2.5 million fund that provided awards up to $100,000 to organizations with promising new products, business models, or financing models in Danang or Ho Chi Minh cities. The fund was part of a larger effort to bring green energy to a country that is one of the world’s fastest-growing per capita greenhouse gas emitters. China has a head start on green energy, but the United States has sought to keep Vietnam out of China’s orbit, so the program was intended to boost the U.S. brand in green energy.

 $3.7 billion for the Taliban

Pants on fire false. That's the money USAID has spent on Afghanistan since the Taliban took it back over in 2021. The money has been mostly given to UN and other NGO operating in Afghanistan not the Talibam

$2 billion for Palestinians

Its actually $5 billion.

And billions more have been provided to Palestinians by other countries as well. For example the EU has given the Palestinian's $6.4 billion in aid.

Perhaps the US shouldn't be giving quite so many bombs to Israel to flatten Gaza or perhaps they should pressure Israel into giving up its siege so Gaza's economy isn't strangled so they don't have to give so much money to the Palestinians to rebuild it.

$3.4 billion for Yemen as part of $8 billion for Iranian regime

The Yemen part is true. But what's the problem here. 

Yemen is one of the least developed countries in the world, facing significant obstacles to sustainable development, and is one of the poorest countries in the Middle East and North Africa. In 2019, the United Nations reported that Yemen had the highest number of people in need of humanitarian aid, amounting to about 24 million individuals, or nearly 75% of its population. As of 2020, Yemen ranked highest on the Fragile States Index and second-worst on the Global Hunger Index, surpassed only by the Central African Republic. Additionally, it has the lowest Human Development Indexes out of all non-African countries.

And this is even before I make the point that Yemen is stuck in a civil war since 2014 and has been divided up by various factions.

If Yemen isn't justified in getting foreign aid just who the hell is.

The Iran part is just complete bullshit. 

 $3.3 billion for Somalia

Again what's the issue with this, Somalia is one of the most war torn countries on the planet. If its not a text book case of a country needing foreign aid I don't know what is.

 $2 million for sex changes and "LGBT activism" in Guatemala

Misleading, the funding was for LGBT activism but not specifically for sex changes but for gender affirming health care. According to a former senior USAID employee who was involved in LGBT programs, surgery and hormone replacement therapies were not part of USAID's gender affirming health care program. The total of amount of funding that was actually provided was $350,000.

 $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt

False, what they are referencing here is an initiative to increase educational opportunities and strengthen the livelihoods of the people of North Sinai which would also provide access to transportation for rural communities and economic livelihood programming for families. There was zero mention of tourism. This initiative was launched during Trump's first administration. 

Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation

Dubious claim. The allegations against the non-profit organization Helping Hand have never been proven. Also of note the same organization was in operation during Trump's first administration.

$Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab

Misleading: 

USAID initially awarded a grant to the University of California at Davis to improve monitoring of zoonotic viruses with pandemic potential in African and Asian countries. UC-Davis then hired EcoHealth, which in turn contracted with Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to collect biological samples from roughly 1,500 individuals in the Yunnan province with exposure to bats, other wildlife and domestic animals

 Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria

This was part of a fraud that a leader of a NGO group committed in Syria. The fraud was uncovered by USAID and checks were put in place to stop it from happening again.

Funding to print "personalized" contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries

Misleading: 

USAID gave a grant to the University of Texas at Austin to develop personalized 3D-printed nonhormonal intrauterine devices (IUDs). The grant was part of a program managed by Eastern Virginia Medical School at Old Dominion University and USAID to improve reproductive health by researching low-cost, safe and noninvasive HIV prevention methods as well as contraceptives.

 Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund "irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan," benefiting the Taliban

Completely misleading. Firstly the Taliban had largely stopped poppy cultivation before the US invasion. The resulting invasion and upheaval meant a power vacuum that the poppy producers exploited. The money spent by USAID was during Bush's term between 2005-2008 and was largely considered a failure but as a report laid out that disputes between inter agencies and allies hampered development efforts in Afghanistan. Its a bit of stretch to say that nearly 20 years later these failed development projects are now benefiting the Taliban.

 $100 billion dollars in COVID payments was stolen by professional foreign fraud rings?

Partially true but also lacking context, There was actually a much greater amount of fraud related to Covid payments than $100 billion. Some of it was from overseas but there has been thousands of cases of criminal and civil prosecutions against American citizens relating to Covid payment frauds as well. The issue was the speed at which these payments were set up without enough checks in place to avoid fraud. This occurred during both Trump's and Biden's term.

 $2 million dollars for Moroccan pottery classes

Mostly true but lacks context .This one came up back in 2013 were the claim was original $27 million spent on Moroccan pottery classes. Turns out it was $27 million total aid but $2 million was spent on trying to train local Moroccan women how to make pottery in the hope of kicking starting a Moroccan pottery as a viable economic business going that would be sold both domestically and internationally. It wasn't just to teach people how to make Moroccan pottery for the lols.

 $300 million to build diesel fueled power plants in Afghanistan but they couldn’t use them because diesel was too expensive

 $200 million to Afghanistan to build a dam they didn’t use because it was too unsafe

I'll take these two together and it was $290 million spent on the dam. This is mostly correct but again needs to be taken in the context of the War in Afghanistan. America had invaded and taken over the country and was trying to build it up as a self sustainable country. To do  tried to build up the infrastructure of the country via various development projects of which several were managed by USAID who had a successful past track record of doing similar things in other countries. However a lot of the projects overshot their budgets due to various reasons, like overspending by the US contracting companies hired, disputes between agencies and allied countries and an ever changing security situation.   

I'm not saying all these projects where justified or the money well spent but given American had taken over the country it was pretty much compelled to heavily invest in the country.

Interesting to note construction of the Dam has been restarted by a Turkish company.

$250 million to Afghanistan to build a road that was never used

Disingenuous wording, this makes it sound like it was road built to nowhere. It was used partially, but this omits the fact there was a deteriorating security situation that meant the road wasn't used much. It wasn't that the road wasn't useful, it was down to the fact that Taliban kept blowing it up. 

$900 million to Syrians for humanitarian aid but someone messed up and it went to Al Queda

Zero evidence to support this claim. And I mean zero. Sure some aid has fallen into the hands of America's enemies from time to time and USAID has put measures in place to try to prevent this from happening, but the claim is complete bullshit.

$1 million for bat research in Wuhan, China

USAID funded fashion week in Paris

Yes, but again the wording lacks context.

USAID (U.S. Agency for International Development) did fund an event during Paris Fashion Week in 2018, but it was part of a broader effort to support women's economic empowerment and entrepreneurship in developing countries, rather than funding the event itself as a fashion show.

The initiative was aimed at supporting women entrepreneurs, particularly those in the developing world, by providing them with access to global markets, opportunities for networking, and exposure. USAID partnered with Fashion for Development, an organization that works to elevate women in the fashion industry, to highlight women-led businesses and sustainable fashion. The event during Paris Fashion Week served as a platform to promote these initiatives.

The fashion show and its associated activities were not directly about the U.S. government supporting mainstream fashion in Paris but were tied to the broader goals of advancing women's rights and promoting sustainable economic practices in the fashion industry.

So, while USAID's involvement in the event was related to broader social and economic goals, it did indirectly support an event during Fashion Week to promote those initiatives.

Then you also have these payments

- $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon 

True. Done in the wake of the 2020 Beirut explosion.

- $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq

True already mentioned above.

- Sending Ukranians to Paris Fashion Week

True abut again lacks context.

In 2022, USAID funded a program that allowed several Ukrainian designers to showcase their work at Paris Fashion Week. This support was part of a larger effort to help Ukrainian businesses, including those in the fashion industry, regain international recognition and market access despite the challenges posed by the war.

- $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia

Mostly true already covered.

- $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland

False, Already covered

- $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia

False, Already covered

- $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru

False, Already covered

- $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala

False, already covered.

- $6 million for tourism in Egypt

False, Already covered

- $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan  

ROFL, those evil bastards in USAID, giving aid to disabled people!!! 

- $15 million for 'contraceptives and condoms’ in Taliban-Controlled Afghanistan

False there is no evidence to support this claim.

Thanks for keeping it real, Stav.

Aag nonsense...there's no way at really verifying these things...it depends on which sources you decide to believe.

 Stav

How do you know itr is true or false.   The money was paid out by US AID according to their payment system,     If it was also paid by the State Department it amoints to double-funding.   According to Rubio the US Emassadors in countries fequently complained about funding of USAID that undermines US  Foreign efforts and closin down of the Agency is totally warranted, 

I came across USAID representatives in 1964 and what they told me they are funding projects that support US Policy and not undermine it - the way it is undermined at pesent, 

The State Department is operated on a diplomatic basis according to Government policies - USAIO is operating based on Ideologues who regard accountability to Congress not to be countenanccd,    The fact is that in many countries DEI policis are hated and that drvie the Government straight into the arms of China and Russia,

Funding UN programs without approval by Congress boils down to bribery and corruption ruling  the USA.   Then refisal to provide info to the House and Senate is even worse.   

USAID needs to be part of the State  Department and not an agency who disgarded accountability on how they spend money - it represents total underining of basic principles of Democacy and what came out was clearly  fraudulent and wrong.

I can analyze the above comments of  yours - but it is crazy enugh to claim that payments actually made by USAID according to they pyement system never happened,   Payments were sometimes fraudulent and made to US politicians by using different routes.  

Howevee - your first comment is laughable and crazy - USAID wanted upgrading of Education in Burma while the education standards in US schools are collapsing and quality ediucation in state schools is non-existent.   If 10-12 year old children cannt even read anything the US system is totally fucked up.

 Stav

How do you know itr is true or false.   The money was paid out by US AID according to their payment system,     If it was aso paid by the Styate Department it amoints to double-funding.   According to Rubio th US Emassadors in countries fequently complained about funding of USAID that ubndermines US  Foreign efforts and closin doiwn of the Agency is totally waranted, 

I came across USAID representatives and what they told me they are funding projects that support US Policy and not undermine it - thew ay it is undermined at pesent, 

The State Department is operated on a diplomatic basis according to Government policies - USAIO is operatin g ased on Ideologues who regard accountability to Congress are not to be countenanccd,    The fact is that in many countries DEI policis are hated and that drie the Government straight into the arms of China and Russia,

Funding UN prgrams without approval by Congress boils down to bribery and corruption ruling  the USA.   Then refisal to provide info to the House and Senate is even worse.   

USAID needs to be aprt of the State  Department and not an ag ncy ho ed garded accountability on how they spend money irepresents total underining of basic principles of D emocacy and what came out was clearly  fraudulent and wrong.

I can analyze the above comments of  yours - but it is crazy enugh to claim that payments actually made by USAID according to they pyement system never happened,   Payments were sometimes fraudulent and made to US politicians by using different routes.  

Howevee - your first comment is laughable and crazy - USAID wanted upgrading of Education in Burma while the education standards in US schools are collapsing and quality ediucation in state schools is non-existent.   If 10-12 year old children cannt even read anything the US system is totally fucked up.

Thanks for keeping it real, Stav.

What we have here is a list is a list of claims. Some are true, some are partly true, some of the claims are misrepresentations and some are out right false.

Then have DA here unquestioning repeating the claims and then we have Moz and Plum approving of it without any of them doing the slightest bit of research into the topics. And then later on you have Plum accusing others of acting like zombies.

Basically what we have here is a narrative that America is getting screwed over when it comes to foreign aid.

Now let me be clear, I'm not saying in certain case there hasn't been fraud and American hasn't been taking advantage or that each of the above was the absolute best case use of foreign aid funds. 

But with that framing of that list, it looks like a complete blanket rejection of the mere concept of foreign aid and that there is never a valid justification for it.

Now if you want to argue against foreign aid in general that's fine.  But lets put it into context.

America is the single biggest contributor to foreign aid in the world. But when it looked at from the lens of foreign aid contributions by GDP, America is not particular high up on the list. For example Germany contributes nearly 4 times as much foreign aid than the US, France is 3 and half times that, the UK nearly 2 and half times as much. Despite having a smaller economy the EU contributes more to foreign aid each year than the US does.

Now I haven't gone into the details of each countries individual contributions but I'm sure just like American foreign aid, there has been fraud and money that hasn't necessarily been spent in the most optimal manner, but that's just the nature of foreign aid. You have to make decisions at some point, and you were working in countries with high levels of corruption and fluid security conditions. 

This idea that America alone is bearing a unjustified burden when it comes to foreign aid or that it's uniquely been taken advantage off just does not stand up to scrutiny. 

And this is even before we get to the benefits of foreign aid. If your against illegal immigration, foreign aid sent to South America for example helps improve the living conditions of countries there which helps to reduce the amount of people who want to immigrate.

Often foreign aid is used as a tool to gain friends around the world and in a geopolitical context stop rivals from making inroads in the same country. Their might be some important economic benefits down the road, for example a country might be rich in rare metals etc and may be willing to sell them to you over your geopolitical rival.

And foreign aid just makes other countries like you. Its one of the few things you can say about America that universally good. 

Now strip that foreign aid away and all your doing is open the door for your rivals to walk in and say we would love to provide the aid and invest in your country.

And how does the rest of the world see America slashing its foreign aid. Its  seen as the worlds richest man coming along and cutting off aid to some of the worlds most in need people. American is absolute shredding its own soft power and the as I've said  America's geopolitical rivals are just laughing this shit up.

And finally lets come to one last point. The direct consequences of Trump flicking the shut of aid switch have already been felt. Anti-malaria program funding has been cut in Cambodia. 130,000 babies in Africa are at risk of being born with HIV because their mothers have now been cut of from HIV preventive treatment. In Thailand they are turning away war refugees for Myanmar, in Sudan soup kitchen's have been forced to shut down and in Ukraine people lost fuel and electricity.

But I suppose its all worth it for some reason. 

Aag nonsense...there's no way at really verifying these things...it depends on which sources you decide to believe.

Yes you can verify these if your willing to spend the time. Just like with your answer about the election being stolen I'm utterly baffled at your response. You basically admit to living in a world were facts and reality simply don't matter, you just choose what you want to believe. It's absolutely mental.

Stav, I was "approving it" for reasons that appear to have eluded you. And so was Moz.

Look at the order of the posts and see if you can figure it out ;)

Of course not all of it would be accurate. 

Anyhoos...Rooi, you moving to the US?

Ja Plum, still trying to get to grips with my new found refugee status...of all things, who would have thought...?

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Aag nonsense...there's no way at really verifying these things...it depends on which sources you decide to believe.

Yes you can verify these if your willing to spend the time. Just like with your answer about the election being stolen I'm utterly baffled at your response. You basically admit to living in a world were facts and reality simply don't matter, you just choose what you want to believe. It's absolutely mental."

No, I did not, that's your warped opinion...if something can't be proven, it doesn't mean it didn't happen, why can't you understand this?

No, I did not, that's your warped opinion...if something can't be proven, it doesn't mean it didn't happen, why can't you understand this?

Because that's insane logic. If your making the claim, the onus is on you to prove it, not the other side to disprove it, otherwise you can literally say anything about someone or accuse them of anything you want. 

I could accuse Trump of clubbing baby seals to death in his swimming pool in Mar-A-Lago. 

Go on prove it didn't happen!

Anybody claimin g thata id should eb  grante to rerrorist ruled countries like Yemen and Somalia must really be living in cloud cuckoo land.   Any aid will alwys end up in the pockets of the ruling terrorists.   So what happened to the Al Qaeda food supply agent.  He problably stole half of te money provided anyway,

How come USAID provide money to  George S ors to fnd the D NC when the riots were organized by the Democrats to fund riots in the USA - both in 2020 and 2024 colege riots,     So State Fnds hav been used to enhance internal terrorism in the USA,   

Wht Trump came up with is babyshit dreams.   For the period April 2020 till January 2021 there were no Taliban organised terrorist attacks in Afghanistan so the story of the roafd been blown up sound sphony to me.   As to heroin plant farming - it as flourishing unde rthe Talban and never eradicated by the US army while occupying twons and cities eiped out anything.   One hs to belieVe the moon is made of green cheee whmn you believe Taliban and  Democratic Party lies and write it on this site.       .       

Draad

Don't bother - most of the claims Stav made on this site came from The Guardian and other leftist media and then  he claimd it is true - the BS they came up with is rouutine lies,     

Anybody claimin g thata id should eb  grante to rerrorist ruled countries like Yemen and Somalia must really be living in cloud cuckoo land.

Yet another misrepresentation of reality.  Only parts of those countries are under the control of groups which are designated terrorists. The aid doesn't go to those groups it goes to the the UN/US backed and recognized governments who are fighting those terrorist groups

 Any aid will alwys end up in the pockets of the ruling terrorists.

A total lie.

So what happened to the Al Qaeda food supply agent. 

He's been detained to face charges of fraud.

Draad

How come USAID provide money to  George S ors to fnd the D NC when the riots were organized by the Democrats to fund riots in the USA - both in 2020 and 2024 colege riots,     So State Fnds hav been used to enhance internal terrorism in the USA,   

Wht Trump came up with is babyshit dreams.   For the period April 2020 till January 2021 there were no Taliban organised terrorist attacks in Afghanistan so the story of the roafd been blown up sound sphony to me.   As to heroin plant farming - it as flourishing unde rthe Talban and never eradicated by the US army while occupying twons and cities eiped out anything.   One ahs to beliee the moon is made of green cheee whmn you believe Taliban and  D emocratic Party lies and write it on this site.

Shitory.

Don't bother - most of the claims Stav made on this site came from The Guardian and other leftist media and then  he claimd it is true - the BS they came up with is rouutine lies,     

Actually I didn't use the guardian once when looking up those claims.

"Because that's insane logic. If your making the claim, the onus is on you to prove it, not the other side to disprove it, otherwise you can literally say anything about someone."

I'm not making the claim, I'm saying it wasn't proven, but the opposite hasn't been proven either...

"Because that's insane logic. If your making the claim, the onus is on you to prove it, not the other side to disprove it, otherwise you can literally say anything about someone."

I'm not making the claim, I'm saying it wasn't proven, but the opposite hasn't been proven either...I'm saying it's possible that there wre some irregularities. 

Stav

The fac is the DO GE people went rhough the payment system of USAID - but it was pure shit. The reports is notbased on allegations - it is absed on actal payments made by USAID,.

There is a small area of what use to be Somalia that is run as an indepemdent cpputry they call Somaliland which is not under terroist control -the rest is all under Terrorist control USAID did not supply aid to Somaliland -so who was the payments made to? Same applies to Yeme.

There is one element which represent direct theft from the U SA Treasury and that us oppaid George oros to fund the election campaigns of DA's - which is blat5ntly illegal and is going to end up appoval of teh Project in jai;, Tha program was used to fund election expenses of the DP candidates controlled by Soros, The project entails total undermining of law and order in the USA = since the candidates are con trolled by Soros and thy use he system to reduce charges against certaibn crimes to misdemeanors nt t be charged.

What Stav does not regard as being wrong is that tracing of the payments will all be investigated by the FBI and Justice Department and a state of hysteria aexist to prevent appintment of Kash Patel and Henendy because they know hw many of the DP congress memebers are oing to go to lail for bribery and corruption. and try to prevent them from goin g to jail,

That while the USA has to borrow money to fund shit like those listed above,

There is a  small area of what use to be  Somalia that is run as an indepemdent cpputry they call  Somaliland which  is not under terroist control -the rest is all under Terrorist control   USAID  did not supply aid to Somaliland -so who was the payments made to?   Same applies to Yeme.

Your a liar. The bulk of Somalia is under the control of the Federal Government of Somalia, which is the UN and US backed government.

Its territory is marked in red, Somaliland is marked in yellow while terrorist held area's are in black and grey.

USAID operates in both the Federal Government held area's of Somalia and Somaliland. 

If you google search it you can still see the links to USAID relating to operations in both regions, though the pages themselves are down.

It is not  lie dimness,   The arda known as  Somaliland usd to eba french  colony  and was for  years protected by the  French A rmy against the terrorists in the rest of Somalia.   The terrorists ever had an election and just retiened control of the rest of  Somalia,

As a Souh African taxpayer I object to the following BS:-

 "Again what's the issue with this, Somalia is one of the most war torn countries on the planet. If its not a text book case of a country needing foreign aid I don't know what is."   

Let me explain  under Biden's govenment Somali terrorists invaded the Cabo Delgado area and attack a village where foreign workers were constructing ga infrastructure to stoe and distribute gas fom the amsive g as field discover in the sea near to the Mozambique cost,   28 people were murdered by the terrorists coming from  Somaliland using a route to Zanzibar and from there to Dar-es-Salaam,

As a result of  the said attack the Mozambique Government -

• requested the USA to try and prevent the flow  of terrorists from Somalia and Yemen  to prevent terrorists using the Zanaibar route to get to Mozambique - as to bee xpected he USA  Biden Regime undertook to sop the flow - but did fuck All about it; and
• the S outh African Government to send some troops to the Cabo Delgado area to guard the  border of Tanzania at the cost of the  SA Taxpayers - while the US Govement fund terrorists states like Somalia and Yemen.       

That i the act of life and you find it as a reason to provide US aid to tose two shitspreading countries,

By the way  you got input from ChatGP on which you base your allegations.  Thre are people who may go to jail for fraud and coruptionand you base our comments on rogue eelements thata im only at self-protection.

Some of he money spent was a cover for funding of the Democratic Party by USAID and that means fraud on a major scale.   Ther was one element you did not comment on and that is election fundin g for DA's whos election expenses aret hen covered by Soros.   That means the election expenses were covered by taxpayer money and is faudulent to start with in any event..   They are inspecting where the money really went and whther the DNC ended up with funding fromUSAID to cover election exopenses of the Party.   It did not really worked out in the case of DA's funded by Soros - a few of them lost their jobs in San Francisco and Los Angeles,because eyfollowed the Soros instutions tobe soft on crime so the dangerous California gangsters took over in California.   

Evn an Independent won the San Francisco Mayor election But the massive mitake by the De,pcrats in maladministration took over when he fire hydrants had no water to fight fires and the Democrats are foing to lose millions of vores in tat coty as well.    At least i will save the State and  the whole USA from further disastrers  they can expect if Newsom and arris are to eb in Govenment. 

What the Democrats fear most is going to jail for bribery and corruption and if the flow of money from USAID is found to be funding the DNC it is going to land a lot of people in jail.

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The embracing of the MAGA cult & the subsequent hero worshipping of the leader by so many rednecks here has been fascinating to observe. Amongst the draadsitters the morphication process was soon underway.  Draad in the lead, speeding down the rabbit hole to join long term cultists (ouMaaik & Beansht) , the rest of the wannabe cultists, BPlug DAss  Mofart & Arfur not far behind. A sad reality.

To my right-wing critics, I'm simply responding to a wee bit of Trump's madness but if I'm creating a fraction of too much friction, that's lekker, & encouragement to lift my game.

Ai Bob...you're wrong...take a step back...when you're the one resorting to name calling and insults, there's something wrong...we've been friends for a long time...I hope we still are...

Blo...don't you think it's odd that you're more obsessed with Trump than the supposed cult follower's are?

You don't think you're that obsessed?

Cool, look at what the majority of your posts are about...and then have a look and see how many of the "cult" members don't post about Trump nearly as much as you do. 

From here, it looks like you're in denial about how much you think about Trump.

Just saying

Draad my family, friends & acquaintances are a mengsel of colour, creed or political belief & I'd be a lonely soul if all of em folk needed to support my opinions before becoming my friend.

That's the difference between you autocrats or us democrats. With us good guys, diversity is die ding. Love is in the air. Nothing like the ugliness portrayed by your batshit fwit convicted felon.

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