https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53121488
Meanwhile,
Any concerns about the spread of COVID19 due to the riots and looting?
Asking for a friend.
“ “Per safety protocols, campaign staff are tested for Covid-19 before events. Six members of the advance team tested positive out of hundreds of tests performed, and quarantine procedures were immediately implemented, said Tim Murtaugh, communications director for the Trump campaign.
“No COVID-positive staffers or anyone in immediate contact will be at today's rally or near attendees and elected officials,” he added.
Mr Murtaugh said all rally attendees would be given temperature checks before going security. “
I have already explained numerous times that BLM along with Trump'anzee rallies are CovIdiots. Both are actively spreading the virus.
2 wrongs do not make a right. The difference is that Trump is not following his own government's recommendations.
I see. So the rioters also test everyone for COVID and quarantine those who test positive, I suppose.
No, they( BLM) don't test peoples temperatures, and neither group is testing the public for corona
The public don’t need to be tested for Trump rallies. Only those with admission tickets.
A positive Corona virus test is a confirmation of a definite coronavirus case.
A high temperature is a sign of a potential coronavirus case.
If I had to decide which is the safest case to deny access, the definite case or the potential case, I’d say the latter.
“ And Trump wants a full stadium so I doubt they are even doing temperature tests to everyone with an "admission ticket". ”
That is an assumption and everybody kn ows that assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
Redneck beats limpwrist every time.
Wehe . . . what a flop!
Bozo was boasting that over a million people had requested tickets for his stupid rally in Tulsa so they set up an outside area for an additional 40 000 people to supplement the 20 000 that the stadium could accommodate.
The final number of people stupid enough to care what Bozo has to say (and willing to endanger their lives to hear it) was less than 6200 . . . so after all his boasting Bozo ended up speaking to largely empty seats and a smattering of only the most brainwashed and stupid Trumpanzees . . . and the overflow section had to be dismantled, because there was no overflow!
LMAO!
Not that the speech was worth the effort. Bozo spewed out the usual propaganda . . . how he shut down China early (which he didn't and made almost no difference even if he had), how bad the Democrats are and attacking the media.
Bozo also spent a full 10 minutes talking about his embarrassing descent down the West Point ramp but didn't even spend 10 seconds offering compassion to the families of over 120 000 people who have died from the virus (the virus that he said was "under control" and would "miraculously go away"), instead he continued his laughably stupid and ignorant argument that testing causes more deaths and should be slowed down.
A weak, whiny and self-absorbed rally from a weak, whiny and self-absorbed fool.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?@AOCActually you just got ROCKED by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump campaign w/ fake ticket reservations & tricked you into believing a million people wanted your white supremacist open mic enough to pack an arena during COVID
Brad Parscale?@parscale
Shout out to Zoomers. Y’all make me so proud. https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1274484815576907778 …Radical protestors, fueled by a week of apocalyptic media coverage, interfered with @realDonaldTrump supporters at the rally.
They even blocked access to the metal detectors, preventing people from entering.
Thanks to the 1,000s who made it anyway!https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/20/anti-trump-protesters-interfere-presidents-rally-f/ …
I think that, at some stage in his childhood days, ou Vrottie tried to bully a Christian chappie half his own size and then the small Christian kid turned around and bliksemed the living daylights out of him. That is why he hates Christians to this day. He tries to hide his anger towards Christians by, once in a while, pretending to have a dislike in all religion.
The truth is that he is still hurting from the hiding that he got from that small kid back in primary school and he still gets nightmares about.
I would not be surprised if he later learnt that the same kid turned out to become a conservative as well.
At night, when Vrottie lies awake from the nightmares, he schemes and thinks of more ridiculous BS to post on here, in an effort to rid himself of the haunting memories of that hell of a hiding back in the day.
Well - they do not need to riot now - wait till they pick up some brains after being brainwashed by the fake news agencies and that is certain to happen.
By the way intimidation of voters by the rioters is going to be counter-productive in the election - but that is what it seems to be now.
If the BLM (Bladdy Lazy Mut's) crowd was tested for the virus we would definitely find other hidden viruses yet to be disclosed.
Hahaha. Christianity is Abrahamic. Have you even read your post before hitting “submit comment”?
By the way SB Christ descended from Abraham as suggested by you, but he was crucified because he preached a different outlook on religion from the Jews at the time. That being said - the issue is there is some correlation between the Jewish religion and the Islamic one and very little between Christianity and the other two religions mentioned. So get your facts right for a change,
For the rest Communism is based on the Jewish economic system at the time of the old testament and it appeals to many Jews a s the ideal system, The purest form of Communism is found in the Kibbutzim in Israel. The rest is an abortion of dictatorship which you apparently admire.
You are wasting your time Mike. Ou Vrottie does not understand the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament. He does not understand the difference between the Gospel and the Abrahamic laws of the Old Testament. He has his own warped preconceptions of how these things stick together. I think that the little understanding that there was inside that empty cavity between his ears were knocked out when that small Christian kid gave him that hiding in primary school.
“ they both were at one point almost identical- especially in the old testament. “
There we go again. You keep on highlighting your ignorance.
You keep on pulling up Wikipedia as well. Don’t you have any viewpoints of your own, based on your own knowledge?
“ Christianity only really came into effect as the dominant religion hundreds of years after the death of Jesus.“
No, it didn’t. Where do you get that from? More evidence of your ignorance.
Welcome to the Back To The Future view of Christianity/Islam and the Old Testament.
"While it is true that Muslims are worse than Christians, they both were at one point almost identical- especially in the old testament."
Is anyone able to decipher that nonsense?
As far I can tell, the Torah's scribes discussed the future religions of Christianity and Islam. They found them to be similar. Of course this was speculation since neither faith actually existed yet.
Then at some point, after actually materialising as belief systems, the two faiths deviated to be become the very different religions that we find dominating the religious landscape today.
I have one question; Why is there no mention of the time machine so key to this clearly logical offering from VrotKop?
The reality is that Shark feels the weight of his mortality.
He realises that he's probably past the halfway mark of his very confused life and there is something about atheism that doesn't sit quite right with him.
He feels smart when he declares himself a big bang believer but feeling smart doesn't do much to soothe the existential threat that lingers and looms ever larger.
That's why he spends his days shadow boxing his own spiritual angst on here. Trying his best to shame people for not believing as he does. Believing that he'll find solace upon sufficiently shaming the religious for their convictions.
Fishpaste, you won't change anybody's mind. You're not insightful enough, sorry.
Sadly, even if you do...it won't help you with your problems.
My advice; This is a YOU issue. Seek advice and help. But before you do that, be honest with yourself about how little you actually know.
Do I?
Please give me an example of me clinging to a conspiracy to explain reality.
“ Posted by: Plum (6107 posts)
Jun 21, 2020, 20:53The reality is that Shark feels the weight of his mortality.
He realises that he's probably past the halfway mark of his very confused life and there is something about atheism that doesn't sit quite right with him. “
Exactly my opinion as well. I would add that, because of that confusion and uncertainty, he is constantly on the attack against Christianity in a desperate move to try and convince himself that atheism is his thing after all.
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11862 posts)
Jun 21, 2020, 21:03@Bum Plum, Religion is less fashionable these days- so you pretend you are not a religious whack job like Beeno... “
You do understand that, due to remarks like this, you cannot blame some of us for thinking of you as a conformist, don’t you? You are attacking Christianity and clinging to atheism because, in these days, it is “the right thing to do”. You are shit scared to rock the boat and go against the flow. You’d rather play it save and conform with the rest.
If it keeps you happy.
Still waiting for just one of these conspiracies that I cling to...
Cumon Vrottie, it should be easy to list an example since there are soooooooooo many.
“ Christianity only really came into effect as the dominant religion hundreds of years after the death of Jesus.“
No, it didn’t. Where do you get that from? More evidence of your ignorance.
Well, what we now know as Christianity (proto-orthodox Christianity) only became the standard around the 4th century with the council of Nicaea and only then did it become a fairly unified movement. Before that there were numerous different Jesus or Christian movements, most or all of which was considered heretical later on. Christianity had no set doctrine from the start. Many groups believed many different things about Jesus. You can even see that reflected in the gospels, where by the time we get to John Jesus ends up as a full blown god who has been there since creation and who can't stop talking about himself and who calmly accepts his fate on the cross knowing he is going to heaven. Contrast that to his modest start as a wandering prophet who doesn't refer to himself as a god and who wails on the cross about being abandoned by his god in Mark.
Pakie, I think that progression is resultant of a predating tradition of divine representation on earth in human form, born of immaculate conception, sacrificing himself, being dead for three days and then rising.
It runs through lots of traditions and is tied in with astronomy too.
We could probably call it Andre Stander syndrome. He was a bank robber. We intertwined our pre-existing and romanticised idea of bank robbers with his story. And that's, to some degree, how he is spoken about.
To me, the old testament is basically like Star Wars. Lots of crazy stuff going on and many very weird things mentioned without further explanation. Pillar of cloud, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Moses seeing God on the mountain, the burning bush, Arc of the Covenant, parting the sea, punishment of people of Babel, on an on...it's basically a sci-fi novel as far as I'm concerned. The story of creation is better than anything G Lucas could come up with. Talking existence into being? Resonance spawning matter...crazy! True or not, who knows. Sci-fi...100%.
That's how I see it anyway. Does it detract from the message? In some ways, yes. In others, not really.
Does it make me wanna bash people that believe in God?
Only if/when that belief hurts people.
@Pakie, I hear what you are saying about formal structures.
Somehow ou Vrottie made it sound as though everybody forgot about Jesus Christ for around 400 years and then, suddenly, they sort of started a formal Christian movement.
I don’t think that is quite true, though. Most, if not all, of the books of the New Testament were written around 40AD to 150Ad.
Very few people were literate and there weren’t quite loads of libraries all over the place where people could read those books. There had to be some kind of (informal?) structure, keeping “the story” going.
Going back to the crucifixion. “The Christian movement” was big and strong enough for the “authorities“ to be worried. So much so that they had to kill Jesus in order to try and nip Christianity in the bud.
To come back to Sharkbok. All his arguments against Christianity in particular, are always by way of attacking the Old Testament. He never mentions the New Testament, which is actually the basis of Christianity. The core of the belief system, if one could call it that, of Christianity.
One cannot discard the Old Testament, because you have to know where it all came from. I had a professor in Political Science, who always used to say “If you do not know where you came from, how can you know where you’re heading to?”. All the books of the New Testament are relatively easy to read and understand, compared to the Old Testament. All bar, of course, the book of Revelations.
That, IMO, is why Sharkbok avoids the New Testament. It is hard to argue against the lessons and the preachings of the New Testament.
Take for instance Ephesians chapter six. The mischievous may focus on the matter of slavery, ignoring the fact that slavery was a common practice among all the known nations at the time, but if you really pay attention there is a message in there that is as relevant today as it was then. It is this. Slaves (modern day employees) should treat their masters with respect and obey their orders. That is not where it ends though. There is also a demand on the masters. They are to treat their slave with dignity, humanity and fairness. How can that be wrong?
The same line of argument is followed about the relationship between parents and their children. While it is easy to argue against the strict archaic (man made) laws and other “weird” stuff, as you have mentioned, of the Old Testament, it is very difficult to argue against the central messages in the New Testament about love, honour, mutual respect, etc, found in the New Testament.
Yeah same Plum, people can believe whatever they want as long they don't make it my problem by shoving it down my throat and as long as it doesn't hurt people without cause. I had a short "militant" atheist phase where I would take on believers about everything but what's the point. Be a good person, do as little harm as you can, that's all the world needs to be a better place. The rest are incidental details.
And yes, the suffering messiah was not a Jewish or Abrahamic concept. Nor was burning in hell. So many influences shape religions. By the time we get to the AD period the Jews have been exposed to the Egyptians, ruled over by the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans so it would be naive to think that hundreds of years exposed to other cultures and religions is not going to influence your own narrative.
Not that the whole Jesus business was a Jewish narrative, of course, but some people seem to think the OT and NT can be joined as a coherent narrative. Matter of fact they have nothing to with each other, as the Jews will tell you.
It's fascinating history, Cera. I've read so much on it but I sadly can't remember everything I read. You have to read a few books on this subject every year to keep the details fresh in your mind and I don't get round to that.
Personally I think the Jesus tale is probably based on someone (or a few someones) that actually existed (but not a "son of god" obviously), but the rest of the stuff about the resurrection etc. is pure mythology. But that's neither here nor there, we don't walk on the same road and don't end up in the same place.
“ Posted by: Pakie (5701 posts)
Jun 22, 2020, 11:05Yeah same Plum, people can believe whatever they want as long they don't make it my problem by shoving it down my throat and as long as it doesn't hurt people without cause.“
I have the same belief. Although I am prepared to argue with anybody over religion, and Christianity in particular, you would not find me shoving it down anybody’s throat.
I firmly belief in the part in Revelations where it says that the Lord will knock on your door and if you let Him in, then He will dine with you. Nowhere does it say that He will get to your house, break down your door and force you to feed Him.
If someone has made the choice not to believe, then so be it. His/her choice. None of my business what happens to him/her. The proof of who was right or wrong will only be found out when we die. I have had a good life so far and it took nothing off me to be a believer and a Christian.
If everything stops when I die, then so be it. I haven’t forfeited anything during my lifetime. But, if there is an afterlife, I may feel sorry for those who did not believe.