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AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Jan 2023, 20:04
#41
03 Jan 2023, 20:04#41

JUMP Sharkie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jan 2023, 23:05
#42
03 Jan 2023, 23:05#42

Mozart

One can never be sure about a lunatic like SB.   His ideas are so stupid - he might mean this as a joke - but he does not know the difference between his zero intelligen ce and a joke and with his ideas  one can never know.     

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 00:22
#43
04 Jan 2023, 00:22#43



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 10:21
#44
04 Jan 2023, 10:21#44

The Koran is Version 1 of the Bible. (They also have Adam and Eve, Moses, David, Noah etc, etc).

Christianity precedes Islam by about 6 Centuries.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Jan 2023, 11:37
#45
04 Jan 2023, 11:37#45

Let's just agree that both religions have a big book that makes them belie ve with absolute certainty that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 11:47
#46
04 Jan 2023, 11:47#46

Draad, in case you dont, realise this - the old testament predates Christianity. BC is before Christ, which is the old testament. 

The Garden of Eden is said to have been in Iraq. Babylon is in Iraq etc. etc

Do you actually think Irak etc had no religion before Muslim, or that anyone had no religion before Christianity. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 13:37
#47
04 Jan 2023, 13:37#47

Still doesn't make the Koran the 1st version of the Bible...

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 14:00
#48
04 Jan 2023, 14:00#48

The facts are the stories of the old testament are about Arabs, people from the Middle East. You are worshipping an Arab God, an Iraq God or whatever you want to call it. 

Religions have come and gone over the years, usually through military conquest. Some of the stories were kept and some were changed or replaced. 

Christianity has stolen these ancient texts and renamed the people to sound more Western.
In movies or artistic depictions, people are made to look white. During Apartheid South Africa, Jesus was actually a white person etc, etc. The Bible is based on stories about Arabs, particularly the old testament. 

Any sensible person can see it was once the same book, or the same subset of stories.
For example, the story of Cane and Abel explains the primitive ideology well, having 2 sides - one is good and the other is evil.

The problem is each side thinks they are Abel, and the other side is Cane. Hence why the Middle East has always been at war. Hence why Christianity "was" at war with other religions. 

For a more enlightened take on religion, check out the Polytheism religions which have traditionally been less driven by war, unlike their monolithic Monotheistic counterparts. They use a more relative truth, a Democratic truth. 


Followers of monolithic Monotheistic religions are just not Democratic in nature. The reason they are increasingly unhappy, is they are becoming the declining marginalised minority -it was not so bad when they were the majority. 
This is why some of them actually support Putin etc, he has become Abel. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Jan 2023, 14:57
#49
04 Jan 2023, 14:57#49
"Followers of monolithic religions are just not Democratic in nature. "
I assume you mean monotheistic . . . I'm  not aware of any religion involving monoliths.
You're 100% right about the Arab god that all these christians worship. There's no denying the geographic origins of the "holy" books. It all happened in the Middle East with Arab people. Allah or God, it's based on the same Arabian myth.
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 15:07
#50
04 Jan 2023, 15:07#50

Correct, typo. Monotheistic . now updated

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Jan 2023, 15:10
#51
04 Jan 2023, 15:10#51

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 18:32
#52
04 Jan 2023, 18:32#52

All people from the Middle East aren't Arabs...Hebrews and Persians aren't Arabs...but that's not relevant anyway. Christianity is not about race or ethnicity. It's the religion of peace, historically ...an currently exploited for nefarious purposes. It's about service to your neighbour, forgiveness and turning the other cheek...difficult to do right...the narrow path.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 18:51
#53
04 Jan 2023, 18:51#53


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 18:56
#54
04 Jan 2023, 18:56#54

Ja, that's what they say, but they don't practise what they preach. Compare the example Jesus set vs the example Mohammed set...

Any warmongering Christian is not doing what the gospel is requiring of us...like I said, difficult to do right.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 19:40
#55
04 Jan 2023, 19:40#55

You have just displayed typical religious racism. I knew you would do that...
Can you say anything positive about other religions? 

I at least admit that polytheistic religions are "ok".
On the other hand, you will say only Christianity is the right religion. God's master race...

Monotheistic religions want to convert everyone to their own religion. The "one true God"....

As Richard Dawkins says "Religious people are 99.9% Atheists". The reject all religions except their own. If they were born in a different place, you would accept that religion as the gospel. Unthinking sheeple...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 21:01
#56
04 Jan 2023, 21:01#56

Does Islam teach turning the other cheek? Did Jesus turn the other cheek? And Mohammed...?

I'm not trying to convince anyone...you made an ignorant statement which I corrected and you've been moving the goalposts ever since...you can't admit when you blunder and then you have the gall to lecture Uncle Clever.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 21:20
#57
04 Jan 2023, 21:20#57

I didn't make a mistake, you did. I pointed out that Christianity was created after Christ. I used facts to prove this, and once again you used beliefs. 

The Jews stole the religion from Irak (Arabs) and the West stole it from the Jews. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2023, 21:47
#58
04 Jan 2023, 21:47#58

No, you said the Koran was version 1 of the Bible...I said Christianity preceded Islam by half a millenia...inferring that the Bible preceded the Koran...simple...now if you said Zoroastrianism preceded Christianity,  you would have been closer to the money.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 22:16
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04 Jan 2023, 22:16#59
It is pointless pointing out the obvious.

The Koran is just another name for a more ancient text. 
It is unlikely that Adam or Eve could write (not that they actually existed, evolution has disproven that). However, for the purposes of this exercise - lets assume they could not write, it is then folklore that is passed from generation before writing arrived. 

As I stated before, "

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Religions have come and gone over the years, usually through military conquest. Some of the stories were kept and some were changed or replaced. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Jan 2023, 22:37
#60
04 Jan 2023, 22:37#60
MesopotamiaMesopotamia was a region comprising many cultures over time speaking different languages. The earliest known writing was invented there around 3400 B.C. in an area called Sumer near the Persian Gulf.27 Apr 2021

Where Did Writing Come From? - Getty Center

https://www.getty.edu › news › where-did-writing-come-f...About featured snippetsFeedbackPeople also askWho invented writing first?Mesopotamian origins

Scholars generally agree that the earliest form of writing appeared almost 5,500 years ago in Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq).
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jan 2023, 00:18
#61
05 Jan 2023, 00:18#61

Ja, I know all that...Mohammed put a new spin on the existing religion of the day...Jesus expanded and refined Judaism...the Roman Empire swallowed up Christianity, politics corrupted itntil Martin Luther's rebellion a d the reformation...like society,  religion also evolves,  but we choose to believe that it still contains some universal truths...and yet another thread turned into a Christian bashing frenzy...and you have the audacity to call Christians Bible Bashers.


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
11 Jan 2023, 15:16
#62
11 Jan 2023, 15:16#62
Weiselberg(sic), former Trump Organisation Chief Financial officer pleaded guilty to tax fraud and has now been sentenced to 5 months in the high-rated accommodation, Riker Island Prison. 
Apparently, he could have gotten up to 20 years, if he had not been such a cooperative witness by testifying against the Trump organisation. (e.g. that it was not just him who benefited from tax fraud).

https://news.sky.com/story/former-trump-organization-executive-allen-weisselberg-sentenced-to-five-months-in-prison-12783952

And the Trumpanzees tell us Trump is not a tax fraud... He is the most successful businessman in the world with hundreds of "shell companies" that make no profit - so he can rack up massive debt and steal the tax of hard-working people. The shell companies are then killed and they are replaced by new shell companies. (Tricks of the trade passed from one Trump generation to the next). 








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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jan 2023, 21:46
#63
11 Jan 2023, 21:46#63

SB

TYou write so much  shit that one cannot answer you on anything that may be logical.   Youw rote that the Koran ws written before the start of Chistianity.    The fact is that people talk about the Abrahamic Treaty between the Arab countries and Israel - an ag rement signed af ter negotiations initiated by Trump in an effort to stabilize the ME situation.   Unfortunately Biden sabotaged the agreement.

Why did I refer to that Treaty - it referred to what the situation ws through the last 2 000 years,   The Jewish religion was predominant in the middle east at the time Christ was borne and Christianity was an off-shoot of the Jewish religion and since the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 72 AD the Christian religion took over in most of the Arab area and North Africa.   The Koran was written by Muhammad who lived from 570 t0 632 AD.   In the Kuran he laid dwn to religious rules based on mostly the Jewish religion and incorporates elements of Christianity.   In essence the Muslim religion is an extremist religion that was cruel to any opposing views and the judicial practices embodied n it is very harsh.  So your comments are BS.

I have one wauestion for you is if Trump is such a poor person with failing companies - how come he is still a billionaire?    The media spread shit and you are over-eager to swallow it - that is the only explanation one can find for your long strings of shit you quoted above and numerous other BS spreading in other threads.-            


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