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US reputation in tatters with the Trumpvirus

Started by sharkbok42 REPLIES683 VIEWS· 12 Apr 2020, 18:13
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 18:17
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12 Apr 2020, 18:17#2


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BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:00
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12 Apr 2020, 19:00#3

No question about it, accepting aid from China and Russia is making America look weak...a propaganda bonanza for both China and Putin's Russia..

Also mystifying is why the Americans are advertising how their navy is weak ened with many warships affected by Corvod 19...you won;t hear Russia or China giving away how vulnerable their military is...

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:12
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12 Apr 2020, 19:12#4

Brycy logic...

Mike Tyson's hamstring is stiff. I had better  sucker punch him now before the window of opportunity closes.

Good luck with that.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:19
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12 Apr 2020, 19:19#5
“ Posted by: Brycy (4625 posts) Apr 12, 2020, 19:00 No question about it, accepting aid from China and Russia is making America look weak...a propaganda bonanza for both China and Putin's Russia..” Remind us how everybody ended being in a position that they had to buy all this shit from China. I’m amazed at all the bright sparks in the media and on Twitter who are now shouting from the tree tops that the manufacturing of these medical supplies needs to be brought back to the USA and the U.K. I was reading all the messages on Twitter earlier, posted since Boris was released from hospital. All the snowflakes are singing from the same sheet. Stop buying everything in China and start making it in the U.K. again. Couldn’t help but wonder (with a smirk on my face) where I’ve heard that before.
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:41
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12 Apr 2020, 19:41#6

""" The furious reaction in Germany after 200,000 protective masks destined for Berlin mysteriously went missing in Thailand and were allegedly redirected to the US is a case in point. There is no solid proof Trump approved the heist. But it’s the sort of thing he would do – or so people believe."""

"Europeans were already outraged by Trump’s reported efforts to acquire monopoly rights to a coronavirus vaccine under development in Germany."


This really shows the type of person Trump is. First he steals masks from Germany by paying more money at the last moment, and then he tries to get a monopoly of the vaccine so he can sell it to countries around the world. 

He is not a capitalist that wants competition. He wants global US monopolies rife with corruption. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:43
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12 Apr 2020, 19:43#7

Stop buying everything in China and start making it in the U.K. again.

Until of course they discover that the local product costs 2 bucks more than the Chinese one, then everyone buys China again.

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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 19:48
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12 Apr 2020, 19:48#8

The East is still much cheaper to manufacture. A smarter approach is to spread the risk across multiple suppliers/countries. 

 If you use one supplier you will always be constrained to their supply chain. Best to have multiple suppliers and play them off against each other. 

Allowing China to have a monopoly has given them too much control. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 20:06
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12 Apr 2020, 20:06#9
“Posted by: sharkbok (11125 posts) Apr 12, 2020, 19:48 The East is still much cheaper to manufacture.” Because......?
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 20:18
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12 Apr 2020, 20:18#10
The answer is obvious - the currency exchange rate. 
It is not just manufacturing, outsourcing the operations from a country with a strong currency, to a weak currency country is more profitable. That is why companies do this. 

Why do you think call centres outsource low skilled jobs to India and the Phillipines, or even higher skilled jobs like programming where first language skills are less important.
Imagine getting paid in pounds for the same job in the UK, but you lived in South Africa (before the countries economy fell apart 20-30 years ago). You can become a millionaire in rands. With SA's current weak currency it would be a great place to outsource to- but most African governments are so useless, therefore it is not an option. 

I did comment on another thread that China's currency is getting stronger anway, so it makes sense to look for other countries in the East anyway. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Apr 2020, 20:54
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12 Apr 2020, 20:54#11

My word can these clowns be more absurd I ask myself!!!!

Hahahahahaha. 

Look you dumbasses the USA has 20 aircraft carriers for example and China has two. 

The USA Navy is so superior  nobody is a threat. You clowns talking about US weakness have no clue whatsoever. The USA is the world's sole super power dunce. Bwahahahaha the drivel just keeps gushing out. 

The Guardian is a marxist globalist rag but should know its the Wuhan Virus. 

By the way those thinking the USA is doing so badly should look at the Worldometer and take a look at the Wuhan Virus deaths per million people column. Dispite being the world's greatest travel destination the deaths per million people is lower than a lot of countries.

Take out New York City run by Communist De Blouse io and it would be amongst the lowest in the world. 

Who knows how many US infections stem from New York. 

The Guardian being a communist rag will always support communist China and hate  America and Trump. 

They are also fascist bigots. After a mass killing in the UK I dared to criticize in a mild way the Muslim jihadists and was banned. The Guardian are open border globalists who hate Brexit. They are losers. 

Hence our board communist sharkredvirus  using them as a source. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Apr 2020, 20:59
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12 Apr 2020, 20:59#12

Nah....the US is fine. The country’s death rate per million pop excluding NY state is about the same as Germany. NY a portal to the world has done very badly....but the Democratic mayor is a mess and the Democratic governor is all talk and no action.


If I was the Guardian I would worry about the U.K. death rate per million pop which is 5 times higher than Germany....pluck the virus out of your own eye, before you show your concern for others as it were.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 21:32
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12 Apr 2020, 21:32#13
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11126 posts) Apr 12, 2020, 20:18 The answer is obvious - the currency exchange rate. “ Bull twang. It is because of two reasons. First the stuff are made in “sweat shops” where people work for peanuts. The currency has no influence on their remuneration. Second is because previous governments bent over backwards for China a few years ago. Who were and still are the biggest beneficiaries of the Paris Agreement? And I am not even going to look towards Obama. Right here in the U.K. George Osborne and David Cameron (Tories even) were licking China’s behinds big time in an effort to transfer demands for supplies from local markets to Chinese suppliers.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 21:36
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12 Apr 2020, 21:36#14

Chancellor to kick off week-long China tour

The Chancellor is to set out plans to foster a new era in UK-China relations as he launches a concerted bid to deepen ties with the world’s second largest economy.

Starting this weekend he will embark on a week-long tour that is set to encompass thousands of miles across China and comes after a period of turbulence in Asian stock markets.

The Chancellor will argue that far from backing away from China after the events of the summer, Britain aims to increase cooperation and understanding between the two countries and open up billions of pounds of potential opportunities between what remains the world’s fastest growing major economy and the UK.

It also continues the Chancellor’s longstanding drive to forge greater links with the Asia-Pacific region, which saw the UK become the first western member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank only a few months ago.


Etc, etc, etc........ you are welcome to read the rest of the piece. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 21:38
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12 Apr 2020, 21:38#15
Ceradyne, it is true that the average wage in China is lower than in western countries. That is just another reason for outsourcing to China, it does not refute the currency exchange rate angle.
I doubt any country would want to outsource to another country except for cost savings. So what ever international agreements you are talking about, the end goal is reducing production or labour costs. 
Besides companies have a choice if they want to manufacture locally or outsource to the East. Same as outsourcing services like call centres. 
Companies can choose to outsource or to hire locally. It is purely down to cost. 
Trump would love to increase outsourcing to China, the only problem is he tried to give them ultimatums and it created a trade war.  It was only a few weeks ago backward Beeno was cheering the "biggest" deal ever made with China because his master Trump made it. This was just a compromise agreement and it achieved nothing from what was already in place before Trump created a tradewar . The so called phase 1, with no date of a phase 2. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:02
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12 Apr 2020, 22:02#16
“ Trump would love to increase outsourcing to China, the only problem is he tried to give them ultimatums and it created a trade war. “ Nonsense. He never gave any indication to that effect. He has, for decades, said that US governments have been screwing over American workers. He has been saying far ages that they were shooting themselves in the foot. He initially had it against Japan and later China. He has eased off of Japan for one reason and one reason only. The trade balance between Japan and the USA got more balanced while the trade balance between the USA became more and more skewed in favour of China. You can watch video clips of interviews with Trump from as far back as the ages and you will see the same theme all the way. He has no problem with trade with the Far East as long as it is reciprocal. What do you think pisses Obama off the most? The fact that Trump has exposed so much of his legacy as BS. One of them is that he, Obama, said that the jobs that have gone to China is gone forever. Remember how he mocked Trump during the 2016 campaign? When he said, “What’s he gonna do, waif a magic wand?” Apparently that is what he did.
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:08
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12 Apr 2020, 22:08#17
That is politics. Say one thing, do the other. 
He also talked about the US problem of monopolies and breaking them up to create competition. However, when he got into power, he shelved that very quickly. Trump is all about big corporations and profits. He is far right-wing, and that is the opposite to having stuff like a minimum wage etc. 

Making America great again is more about growing US monopolies around the world, and outsourcing to reduce costs. It is making America richer - not necessarily all Americans. 
Trump is the US first. I just can't understand why people that are not from America can actually like him so much. It is purely down to shared religious believes- nothing more...However, y ou are not American, he does not reciprocate the admiration you give to him. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:20
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12 Apr 2020, 22:20#18

‘Companies can choose to outsource or to hire locally. It is purely down to cost.’
Actually there are many low cost producers out there....China has two advantages .....it already has scale and surrounding infrastructure and secondly producing in China for export is an important credential if you want to access their domestic market. In my experience the latter is the more compelling argument.
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:30
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12 Apr 2020, 22:30#19
Sure they could outsource to Africa that may be cheaper, but only artificially. The infrastructure that China has in place goes hand in hand with having low costs or better value. What would happen when they run into African electricity problems, and labour strikes etc. So it is real "low" costs- or value that China offers.  
For accessing the Chinese market, that is another reason to outsource to China. 
However, the US also manufactures digital products in the US and within other first world countries and export these to China. Albeit that Chinese are not the best at adhering to copyright laws of digital products, and some of these products become bulk discount to freemium. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:34
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12 Apr 2020, 22:34#20

Not Africa.....Mexico, Taiwan, S Korea, Vietnam, India etc. Walmart built China it could build India.

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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
13 Apr 2020, 00:45
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13 Apr 2020, 00:45#21
No comments on Trump stealing PPE masks just before being shipped Germany, and then trying to monopolize a possible Corona cure being created within Germany. 
The Bill Gates foundation has been accused of similar actions.They want to develop a vaccine and then monopolize it by registering a trademark, to prevent cheaper generics from being created in third world countries that need it the most.
Just like he done with Microsoft. Take other peoples ideas, improve them with his larger bank account- and then file for copyright to protect his stolen assets.
The Gates foundation conspiracies are not true (e.g. he is trying to kill people, or make women infertile etc). What is true is that he takes existing research- and then uses his billions to expand on the research. Then he registers it as a trademark branded product-  and then partners with large US pharma to sell it to the third world as a monopoly. This prevents cheaper generic variations being created. 

The Gates foundations make donations to corporations -  that they have shares in. He gets lots of tax breaks for this conflict of interest. This further helps uncle Bill create more monopolies and consolidate power in the US. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Apr 2020, 02:39
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13 Apr 2020, 02:39#22
‘The Bill Gates foundation has been accused of similar actions.
They want to develop a vaccine and then monopolize it by registering a trademark, to prevent cheaper generics from being created in third world countries that need it the most.’
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Firstly Gates doesn’t have to do anything. He has enough money for this millennium. 
Secondly foundations that you fund yourself are money out,  even after all the tax deductions.
Thirdly there is no way he would put his reputation at risk to create a patented vaccine and not provide it to the poor, the focus of his charitable work.
Fourthly, to date the poorest countries don’t need the vaccine the most....the West does.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Apr 2020, 09:31
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13 Apr 2020, 09:31#23

Shark, 

Holy shyte guy.

Just get Cera's email address and let him edit your posts before you put them up.

On second thoughts, I doubt there's enough red ink in the word...and backspace buttons are just not durable enough either.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 10:04
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13 Apr 2020, 10:04#24

There is another issue that SB and Brycy adores,  That is that China is a Communist Party Dictatorship with religious people being excluded form any Government functioning,   That makes China earning their full support.  

The fact is what makes the virus the Trumpvirus,   That comes straight from the fake news agencies they so adore.

Another fact is - what was Obama's biggest achievement when he was President?   The major achievement he orchestrated was to turn the FBI into the USA version of the KGB. It became an organization to be used to spy on potential opponents - which some members think is acceptable and according to the IG report there were 28 FISA cases without any justification whatsoever,   The situation is there is nothing preventing the FBI to spy on all Americans,   A few years ago there was an uproar when it came out that the CIA and FBI under Obama spied on everybody - inclusive of Western European leaders and most Americans and that remains the case even today.   That can only stop if the structures developed by the Obama FBI and CIA are changed to ensure that the two institutions function as protecting US citizens are  restored,  The FBI and CIA, as well as the Justice Department - like in SA  became protectors of the corrupt entities in Government and allowed them to get away with billions.             

Obama's other achievements have been equally disastrous,  He signed trade deals exporting the USA productive capacity to China and Mexico causing tens of thousands of US workers t lose their jobs.   95% of the antibiotics used in the USA and EU is now produced in China and all the EU countries and others are now dependent on China for medical supplies - not only the USA.

Who gained from the Obama Trade deal - the monopolies that SB mentioned,  The fact is that the monopolies are in the main in the digital field and in the commercial field.  The Monopolies use cheap labour and lack of unionized industrial action to benefit themselves - while the people in America got poorer and poorer.

The third and fourth achievements were equally disastrous - no upgrading of infrastructure in the USA and no updating of the equipment t o the army to defend the USA - while forcing the country to remain in the wars started by Bush and his crony Obama,  Birds of a feather flock together,   They are both from the swamp - known in the USA as the political establishment in Washington.  There was no difference between the Republican and  Democrat Establishments - both groups were equally corrupt and licentious.             

That makes the present propaganda so crazy,  The fact is that the monopolists and some Billionaires have more in common with the Communist Regime in China than they have in the interests of and to the USA.   One can describe this as near to treason as possible  against Democracy.  That is what the Socialists wants in the USA - a Communist Socialist Dictatorship.  Once they have achieved that the EU will follow fast.

                            

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Apr 2020, 11:59
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13 Apr 2020, 11:59#25
“ He is far right-wing, and that is the opposite to having stuff like a minimum wage etc. ” FFS, Shark. Do you ever pause and think about all the shit that you’re talking? Where the hell do I begin? The far right BS or the minimum wage BS? You have no idea of what the terms far-left, left, right and far right means in terms of politics. Why do you think Trump had so much pushback from the REPUBLICAN Party when he announced that he was running? Because he was too far left for them. He was, at that stage somebody who has already received awards from the African-American leaders for the work that he has done to help black communities. He was handed a reward by none other than Jesse Jackson. Yet, the lunatic extreme lefties like yourself call him a racist. He was, at the time, friends with Bill Clinton. One of his ideas during his campaign was that he would work with anybody, including the Dems, to rebuild America and specifically the Economy. Guess who were the first to slap his hand away when he reached out? The left. He was accused of being a misogynist. He had more women in top positions in his organisation than most big corporations. Hell, a woman was in charge of building Trump Towers and she is still working for him. Yet, the lunatic extreme lefties like yourself call him a misogynist. While the Trump Admin was busy handling the coronavirus, the left were already keeping themselves busy with finding a way to impeach him again. Like Jimmy Dore said, in this whole process he “out-lefted” the left. When he started doing the leftie thing of handing out free money and offering free health care for the uninsured what did the lunatic extreme leftie lunatics like yourself do? The opposes it. Farking madness. I can go on on this topic for ages. Do you want me to start on the minimum wage issue or do you want to take a breather and try to digest this first?
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
13 Apr 2020, 12:10
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13 Apr 2020, 12:10#26
Ceradyne, just recently you claimed that the National Party in South Africa was left wing during Apartheid... enough said. 
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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
13 Apr 2020, 12:11
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13 Apr 2020, 12:11#27
@CleverWanker, (aka Comrade Mike)
Northern Europe is not run by religious fanatics, that does not mean it is communist. Many of the best places in the world are run by so called atheists. 
As a former member of the ANC (African National Communist party), it is ironic that you can dare to call the West communist. You even claimed to be conspiring with known communist terrorists during Apartheid. You said you were even made aware of a planned bombing, no wonder your phone was bugged like you said, by the government of the time. 
You were thrown out of NP run government for conspiring with communists, and given an honorary party membership as part of the ANC once they got into power. You even said you had ties with Zuma... such as him contacting you about possible property deals. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Apr 2020, 12:33
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13 Apr 2020, 12:33#28
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11133 posts) Apr 13, 2020, 12:10 Ceradyne, just recently you claimed that the National Party in South Africa was left wing during Apartheid... enough said. ” BS. I said that they were not right wing and they weren’t. The right wing was the CP, before the FF, and the far right was the HNP. The left went in so many different phases and directions that it would a bit difficult to put them in order from right to left. Back in the day when it was mainly a two party system the NP was the right wing and the UP was the left wing but you haven’t lived in those days, and wouldn’t know. Politics in SA, like in the rest of the world, evolved a lot. The NP did indeed move to the left a lot since the days when they first came into power but not so much that you could really call them left wing. Their biggest move to the left, however was when FW came into power and basically hijacked many of the principles if the Progs, at the time. Why do you think Albert Hertzog and co founded the HNP? Because, in their view the NP were moving to the left. Now, I suppose you will have to jump onto Wikipedia to find out wtf the HNP is. In the process you have found yourself in another pickle, it seems. You were trying so hard to get away from replying to my previous post that you argued yourself slap bang into the middle of another argument of which you know very little or nothing at all.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Apr 2020, 12:34
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13 Apr 2020, 12:34#29

Mike,

The spying was planned during Clinton's era, implemented during Bush's time and brushed under the rug by Obama. Trump has been warned off and you won't see him touch the issue either.

But then, don't tell me China aren't/won't do the exact same or worse. Let's not forget, 5g is theirs atm. They are also leading the race in quantum computing.

In layman's terms, they'll have access to ALL the data as well as the type of hardware which renders all encryption, quantum encryption aside, useless.

Now doesn't that sound like a perfect storm. 

Almost as th ough the only way out is to kiss our freedom goodbye.

Convenient, no?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:12
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13 Apr 2020, 13:12#30
“ The spying was planned during Clinton's era, implemented during Bush's time and brushed under the rug by Obama. Trump has been warned off and you won't see him touch the issue either.” Exactly. The Patriot Act was waiting for an excuse to be pushed forward and rushed through. And then 9/11 happened. Voila. Patriot Act passed without objection. And it has been renewed without any push or shove. It is only recently that there has been some pushback but the resistance is growing. I think Trump is waiting for the Durham Report before getting involved, but he has to be careful because it is the Industrial Military Complex that he is dealing with and there are many, even in his own party, who have their fingers in that pie. It is not like the media complex that is the monopoly run by the left. On the Durham Report... there are rumours that it is eminent and him and Barr are getting themselves in gear for action. Remember that this is not like the IG reports where the IGs have no prosecutorial powers. Not even Saint Meuller is safe IMO.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:14
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13 Apr 2020, 13:14#31

SB

If you cannot read English and understand what I wrote you are indeed a nutcase,  In the above I wrote not a word about religion.   I wrote about monopolies and how they operate in the USA.  I wrote about the Chinese issue and the extensive interests of the monopolists to co-operate with China.  

If you cannot understand how the issues I raised came through in the media and how the leftists and there billionaire masters handle things  there s nothing one can do to help you.

You know nothing about SA History and political development either,.   When the English in the Boer War destroyed the farms and sent the women and children into concentration camps the war ended with virtually all Afrikaans farmers being reduced to abject poverty.  They went into the cities like Johannesburg, Cape Town and in Durban to find menial work,  The fact is they mostly joined the Communist Run Trade Unions and violence erupted in 1914 and 1921 in Johannesbu rg that had nasty political consequences,   In the 1924 election the National Party and Labour Party formed an Alliance Government.  Many of the Communist Afrikaans speakers in the Labour Party was in their youth Communist Party members and became prominent in Politics of the National Party after 1924.   Some were Ministers and others in senior positions in the NP cabinet.   For instance in the Free State the Nationalists appointed Sand Du Plessis - a Communist from way back as Administrator,   Some remained as communists - like Bram Fischer.

Be is as it may the Nationalists never were a right wing capitalist party,  All their economic politics were left wing socialism and that is a fact.  I once had a long talk with Rolley Arenstein - a grandnephew of Marx - who was banned as a Communist for the longest time ever in SA,  He claimed that the USSR used communism as a cover for the fact that they were a dictatorship - he was a theoretical ardent Communists and he explained to me how  some Nationalist policies were developed within a framework laid down by the Communists in 1914 - even before they took power in Russia,   In dealing with it what became clear to me was that the Nationalists were indeed de facto leftist socialists - look at Eskom, Sasol, Iscor and about 700 other companies who were state mechanisms operating in SA.

When it comes to capitalism - they realized the danger for SA in the socialist environment they were leaving behind  and insisted on some safeguards to be provided for in the Constitution.  That left them as major socialists  and the ANC as slightly lesser so.

The National Party was much like the Democrats before the 1960's in the USA and were strictly racist in their approach.  

I never did anything you wrote above and your interpretation of what I wrote is scandalous BS. What I wrote was what happened.  I was for instance warned by a person about a bomb attack on the building where I was working and informed the Police through one of their Security Agents of the warning.   They did bugger all about it  and that is a fact - the bomb attack took place the next week.  I never conspired with anyone on anything - where you get that from is total BS.   One has to accept that your mind is totally pissed by now.                  

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:36
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13 Apr 2020, 13:36#32

Shark, you should be paying school fees for this lesson that you are receiving.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:40
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13 Apr 2020, 13:40#33

Hahahaha. And shortly after I was telling Sharkbok about the Dems being in charge of the media complex, I read this following a tweet from John Solomon:

Should taxpayers bail out the news media?

Some Democrats want to use coronavirus bailout money to help news organizations. You weigh in.

A group of Democratic senators last week proposed using the next round of coronavirus stimulus money to help struggling local news outlets.

"Local news is in a state of crisis that has only been exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic," the senators wrote in a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and the Senate Appropriations Committee. 

The audacity of these fckers knows no end. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:55
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13 Apr 2020, 13:55#34
So ComradeMike, you are saying that the Afrikaans (NP etc)- and the ANC were both Communist? You have previously stated you were a member of the ANC, not just a government worker. This was after you were fired during the era of the NP. 
So you have the audacity to call half the US population communists, as well as Northern Europe places that have traditionally been more capitalist than most places in the world. 
A bureaucrat public official working under different communist regimes is now an expert in capitalism and the West. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:28
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13 Apr 2020, 14:28#35

Geez, Ou Maaikie. That's all I can say.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:35
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13 Apr 2020, 14:35#36

I am not calling them Communists - I am calling them brainwashed idiots.   They are fed so much BS every day that they do not know what the end result would be.  In any event surveys in the USA indicated that 40% of the US voters are Commies anyway - years of brainwashing paid off.  

It is very unwise for you to express opinions on anything - you have  no idea about what really is going on and what is the object of the present brainwashing campaigns.   The people will find out too late what they are going to endure in future - and when they do they would be unable to do anything about it.

The fact is that the EU is a total wreck anyway and with the USA  taken over by the Commies - the EU will have two choices - go into alliance with Russia or go Communist themselves.   

I will not see the final outcome - but you will - so be careful what you wish for.      

          

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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
13 Apr 2020, 15:26
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13 Apr 2020, 15:26#37
clevermike

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Apr 13, 2020, 14:35

I am not calling them Communists - I am calling them brainwashed idiots.   They are fed so much BS every day that they do not know what the end result would be.  In any event surveys in the USA indicated that 40% of the US voters are Commies anyway

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It is not raining, but it is raining? Uh?  Total gibberish... 

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Do you even have a brain, something, anything that could be brainwashed?

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Like the US really cares what an ANC Comrade thinks... Or Europe concerned what a primitive "thinks" for that matter. These are some of the best places in the world.  The main issue is ensuring that the third-world is blocked at the borders to prevent them getting in. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 16:05
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13 Apr 2020, 16:05#38

Happy Idiot Day to you.   I pointed out what brainwashing did  to you an millions others and I said what I believe is on the cards in future,   

Do you think that borders mean anything for the political BSter  you support?   They will import people into countries to help  them in taking over control,   The fact is they want to destroy the  western democratic culture and you will have to get you home on a lease basis from Government and if you show any discontent you will be kicked out - that apparently is the future you are looking out for,   It will be in within 10 years.   The  housing control officer that will allocate  homes will be from China.  

I will not be around - but you can enjoy the miserable conditions lying in wait in future.    

            

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AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Apr 2020, 16:24
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13 Apr 2020, 16:24#39

Folks we have to remember that Rooiarse, sharkvirus and that prick down on those little islands all have the following issues;


They are always incorrect.

They are always left of left.

They are always anti-PDT.

They are always sprouting BS.

They are always posting BS.

These folks just thrive in S..t.

These folks just live in it.


Have mercy for they know not what they do, say or post.

The shit that sharkvirus posts must be done while he is under his constant "FIX".

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Apr 2020, 17:03
#40
13 Apr 2020, 17:03#40

I just wanted to add the following about how cheap products made in China are possible.

A short while back we did a remodel of our kitchen and replaces all our cupboards and tops.

The company rep who did the measuring and design was a young lady from Hong Kong who works in Canada on contract to this company.

She had some great ideas and very experienced in her role.

On the due date, the crew arrived with the material to convert and complete the upgrade.

The guy in charge was the only person who was able to communicate in English and after the installation was completed and they were cleaning up we had a side chat and this is what he told us.

He loves Canada and wants to apply for permanent status because in Canada he was paid $7.50 an hour and only had to work 48 hours per week. Which is also below the minimum hourly wage paid in Canada and over the hour workweek allowed.

They are all contract workers for this company and are allowed to work in the country on a six-month contract.

In China, he worked in a factory hundreds of miles from his family that produced countertops in various materials. The staff were all housed in a camp type compound and worked long hours seven days a week with meals supplied.

A train ticket was supplied by the company to go home over the Chinese New Year for a period of 14 days.

For that work, he was paid $1.00 a day plus his family was paid the same back home.  $2.00 a day was his total income.

We were shocked to hear just how badly these workers are treated and reimbursed for their labor.

Now I am not suggesting that all Chinese companies operate the same but it sure is a glimpse of just how badly the situation is for many workers/families in China plus the level to which some or most are exploited. 

We have since done our best to avoid purchasing anything made in China even though we have to pay a higher price for whatever we are purchasing.

Needless to say no Apple products in our home.






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