US to Putin: Make Peace or Face US Troops in Ukraine

The United States is prepared to escalate military and economic pressure on Russia if Vladimir Putin refuses to negotiate an end to the war, US Vice President J.D. Vance told the Wall Street Journal.

Vance warned that if Russia disrupts upcoming peace talks, the US would impose new sanctions and consider deploying American troops to Ukraine — a move that would mark a dramatic shift in US policy.

"There are economic levers of pressure, there are certainly military levers of pressure," Vance stated, adding that the Trump administration is working to convince Putin that diplomacy is a better option than continued war.

He also suggested that resetting relations with Russia could benefit both sides, noting that Moscow’s growing dependence on Beijing makes it a junior partner to China—a situation Putin would likely want to avoid.

While the parameters of a potential agreement remain unclear, Vance acknowledged that any deal would involve hard choices for both Ukraine and Russia. He declined to specify whether the US would accept Russia retaining control of occupied Ukrainian territory or what kind of security guarantees Kyiv would receive.

“There are any number of formulations, configurations, but we care about Ukraine remaining sovereign and independent,” Vance said.

He also hinted that Trump may surprise the world with his approach to negotiations.

“I think this will result in a deal that will shock a lot of people,” he warned.

Following Trump’s first official phone call with Putin on February 12, the US president announced two high-level meetings to discuss ending the war. The first is set for February 14 at the Munich Security Conference, and another will take place next week in Saudi Arabia.

However, Kyiv has ruled out meeting with Russian representatives in Munich, insisting that Ukraine must first coordinate its position with the US and European allies before any direct talks with Moscow.

With tensions escalating and Washington openly considering military intervention, the coming days could be decisive for Ukraine, Russia, and global security.

Following Trump’s first official phone call with Putin on February 12, the US president announced two high-level meetings to discuss ending the war. The first is set for February 14 at the Munich Security Conference, and another will take place next week in Saudi Arabia.

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Your article is 45 days out of date…..which makes your heading highly misleading and makes a laughing stock of this site. Please correct.

Denny

Trump is known for his oposition to warmongering and he will not send ground troops to Ukraine made any circumstances, Trump support less-risk bombing and missile attacks on places where terrorist leadership are pesent.

Trump is a top negotiator - he obviously told Putin what he thinks of settlement of he Ukraine issue, Putn knows by now that Tump - if he says somthing - he would execute it. So I wrote elsewhere - he is likely to force Russia tp make concessions - but at present both the media and the public knows anything further about the jedda meeting. - which is now in its fourth day and no official; announcement has been made and will take the form of similar comments by the three cenral people involved - Trump, Putin and Zelenskyy and after Trump briefs Starmer and Macron as to what was decide dupon. on what was agreed upon.

If there was no progress in the negotiation process the Jedda meeting would have ended already. My guess is that the Ceasefire ad Peace deals may be announced simultaneously before the end of next week.

Do It.

Again

Have the decency to correct your heading…..this will continue until you show some integrity,

America look like they are about to drop their support for Ukraine.

The way things are going, Trump/Vance will be on Putin's side before the end of the year.

The rare earth deal (+ any natural assets) looks like it is toast. Apparently Trump keeps changing the deal. It looks more like he is trying to colonise Ukraine than helping them get a financial deal for repayment

There was an assumption that Trump had an understanding with Putin on the Ukraine, that’s seeming less and less likely. Putin is negotiating for his political future and legacy.

As for Zelensky’s comment about Trump changing the deal…probably true. But once again a petulant comment, he’s not helping the Ukraine by making an enemy of Trump..

Europe may get the outcome they have been celebrating in concept….supporting Ukraine on their own budget.

While some sort of temporary ceasefire is still possible, the most likely outcome is no long term peace deal. America will try push a deal that's too favorable to Russia and Ukraine can't accept, so they will end up walking away with Europe's support. Both Zelensky and the European leaders are simply giving the American-Russian negotiations lip service and stalling for time while they come up with their own plan.

We'll see...Stav...it seems you're still eager for the deal to fail...

No I was simply never in favor of Ukraine being coerced into accepting a bad deal that may ultimately lead to the end of their state and that compromises European security.

"No I was simply never in favor of Ukraine being coerced into accepting a bad deal that may ultimately lead to the end of their state and that compromises European security."

Your bias is leading you to believe that's going to be the case...be a bit more positive.

Look this deal is all about Putin’s ego….Trump is playing that up. The better Putin looks the better the deal that could be achieved. But the press stupidly turns that into a Trump wanting to favor Putin in the deal.

That said, the more Zelensky pisses him off, being the man he is, the more he will favor Russia.

The Ukranians can’t fight on much longer, courage isn’t enough. Will Europe provide troops to supplement their dwindling resources? And if they do will Russia escalate and is that a risk the world should be taking, Is that really in the interests of the suffering Ukranian people or just fighting for an 80 year old principle that probably doesn’t apply in a nuclear world.

Cutting the best deal, arming NATO countries to the teeth and letting age take care of Putin is probably the smart move.

Europe doesn't do smart...

Well now they're are up against Russia & a, 'we don't give a fck' US

they need to be very smart.

Putin & Trump se moer.

Your bias is leading you to believe that's going to be the case...be a bit more positive.

No my eyes and ears are leading me to believe that. There is such a thing as objective reality. And I am positive.

Look this deal is all about Putin’s ego….Trump is playing that up. The better Putin looks the better the deal that could be achieved. But the press stupidly turns that into a Trump wanting to favor Putin in the deal.

You couldn't get a dumber take of the situation if you tried. This deal is all about Trump wanting a peace deal, not because he gives two figs for Ukraine or its people but because he frequently promised he could end the conflict easily and quickly in the run up to the election and even claimed the war would never had happened had he been President in 2022 and if he doesn't get it he thinks it will make him look bad. He also wants it because he's after the Noble Peace Prize because Obama won one and that rankles him no end.

Trump absolutely hates Zelensky and has done so since that "perfect phone call" lead to his first impeachment. He's also probably envious of Zelensky stature on the world stage. He also has clear disdain for Europe. Conversely he admires strongman Putin.

To Trump the easiest way of ending the conflict is to simply give Putin what he wants. All Trump wants is to be able to say he got a peace deal and doesn't care about the details. He can then go back to his supporters and say "look I told you I can end the war" and no matter how much of a dog turd the deal is his base will just lap it up because lets call a spade a spade they are absolute morons.

Problem is for Trump is that expected he could just bully Zelensky and Ukraine into submission while Europe meekly sat by and shrugged. However he appears to have underestimated the resolve of all the above.

I suspect he will go back to blaming Zelensky shortly, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the new terms of the mineral deal were deliberately set as to ensure Ukraine rejects them so he has an excuse to do so.

That said, the more Zelensky pisses him off, being the man he is, the more he will favor Russia.

Trump is impossible not to piss off, he is pathetically thinned skinned. The Oval Office bust up was a set up.

The Ukranians can’t fight on much longer, courage isn’t enough. Will Europe provide troops to supplement their dwindling resources? And if they do will Russia escalate and is that a risk the world should be taking, Is that really in the interests of the suffering Ukranian people or just fighting for an 80 year old principle that probably doesn’t apply in a nuclear world.

Ah yes, the narrative of Ukraine can't fight on much longer. The Trump backers mindlessly say this so it makes selling so many concessions to the Russian's as necessary. But it has no basis in reality.

Europe doesn't need to provide troops in a front line combat role, but it will likely provide support troops away from the front and air protection operating from neighboring countries.

Russia doesn't have the mean's to escalate. Its conventional capability is maxed out. It can probably cut a few undersea communication cables and burn down some random IKEA's around Europe. Yes Europe will need to decide on how to respond if Putin targets European forces in Ukraine, but I suspect their responses will be somewhat restrained. But hey if your so worried about escalation maybe the US shouldn't be forcing the issue by giving Europe no alternative.

As for the suffering of the Ukrainian people its clear no one wants the war to end more than the Ukrainian's themselves but its also clear the majority of Ukrainian's would rather fight on than accept a bad deal that jeopardizes Ukrainian statehood. They feel they have no choice.

Cutting the best deal, arming NATO countries to the teeth and letting age take care of Putin is probably the smart move.

Giving Putin everything he wants is not a good deal, that's called surrendering. Why do assume Putin's successor will be any better.

Europe doesn't do smart...

As opposed to those geniuses with their emoji's in that leaked Signal chat group? ROFL.

Ah the Irish stalwart telling everybody to resist…what like the Irish did in WW2? The Russian and the Ukranian people are tired of the war and favor compromise. All you dish up are a series of warmed up press opinions with no sense of what real people want. Here, read and learn:

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/latest-poll-shows-russia-76-of-russians-would-support-putins-plan/

Bollocks, the Irish had been fighting the English for over 600 years ................. would SA been involved if we'd a Nat government?

4 February 1939

The Ossewabrandwag (OB as it came to be known, meaning Oxwagon Sentinal) was founded as an Afrikaans nationalist organisation in Bloemfontein, under leadership of Colonel J.C.C. Laas. The OB was evidence of the surging Afrikaner Nationalism in the centenary year of the Great trek (1938) and the reaction against the coalition between the National Party (NP) and the South African Party (SAP) during 1930s. The movement was strongly republican-minded. When the Second World War (WWII) broke out in 1939, the OB opposed South Africa's involvement on the side of the Allies. They felt that Germany was not an enemy of South Africa, while they still remembered that Britain had invaded the Republics during the Second Anglo-Boer War. In that war Germany had actually supported the Boers morally. In fact, many Afrikaners felt a kinship with the Germans because of blood ties. Laas was succeeded in December 1940 by Dr J.F.J. (Hans) van Rensburg. Besides the OB and associated with it by a common commanding officer in the person of the Commandant-General, a more radical group, the Stormjaers (Storm Troops), developed. They were responsible for acts of sabotage in South Africa during the war. After WWII the OB gradually faded from the political scene, as the majority members realised that the only effective means of achieving the republican ideal would be through the political party system.

I do not know where Denny got extract from and what relevance it has to the Ukraine situation. What happened waas in fact that the UP Government treated returning soldiers from the war like shiot and they and he farmers who were looted by the UP tuned the political scene against the UP in 1948 and that was the real reason why the 1948 elections were won by the National Party, In a broader sense that sentiment had some very srong reaction opposed by reasonable people and causing the apartheid regime strategies such as apartheid policies opposed by most people in the Western and Southern Cape area - but they were overruled by the majoities in teh then Transval and Orange Free state majorities, Change only started to happen in 1981 that ended up in Goverment take-over in 1994 by the ANC with the support of 85% of the voters who wanted to support change,

I can emeber a classical comment of my mother in 1994. She asked me what was happening in Durban the day Mandela and the ANC took over power and I told there was no violence only people celebating in the streets and he comment was "we would have done the same". Like in pressent day Democratic Party in the USA victory soon turned into criminality and malgovernance which resulted in the Coloreds, Indians and Whites and substntial number of Blacks uniting in the Democratic Alliance gaining enoughs upport to firce the ANC ibnto a coaliton Government. There is one unifying the local situation in the USA are against Government corruption like is ogoing in both the USA and in SA.

So the real situation in SA can be compared to the criminal orientated Democratic Party in the USA where the Ukraine War is a source of major looting by Democratic Party politicians and operatives, The latter is the real reason for the loss of the 2024 election by the Democratic Party and for the ANC to be forced into a coalition Government with the opposing parties. Careful analysis imdiates that in SA most Black voters decided not to vote in the 2024 election - a bad sign for he ANC - since the vast majority of Blacks feel they are now worse off than they were in 1994.

The above is the only facts that is at present relevant in 2025 and the fact is that once the war in Ukraine is stoipped

looting of the US financial system making the Ukraine War the most corrupt war the USA was ever invovled in to end and that is part of the reason why Trump wants to end that farce killing millions of people in Ukraine.

Ah the Irish stalwart telling everybody to resist…what like the Irish did in WW2? The Russian and the Ukranian people are tired of the war and favor compromise. All you dish up are a series of warmed up press opinions with no sense of what real people want. Here, read and learn:

You can always tell when I've humiliated Moz and he has no counter argument to make when he plays whatboutism over Irish neutrality or its tax policies.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/latest-poll-shows-russia-76-of-russians-would-support-putins-plan/

As of this month (March), though half of Ukrainians—50%—believe that Ukraine should never give up territories, even if this makes the war last longer (in December 2024, it was 51%), the number of those willing to make concessions has gone up to 39% (in December 2024 – 38%). The remaining 11% of respondents could not decide on their opinion, according to KISS.

The important point to note here is that the number of those who do not want any territorial compromise is slowly and steadily declining in Ukraine.

As the article you linked too article points out, more Ukrainian's are still against making territorial concessions than for it. But of the 39% who would be willing to make territorial concessions, they are not asked what they would expect Ukraine to get in return. How many of those people would be willing to gave up territory without ironclad security guarantees. The poll also doesn't ask the question what if Ukraine has to make additional concessions in addition to territorial ones. How would Ukranian's feel about handing over all their natural resources to the American's in exchange for zero security guarantees etc. Ukraine is in favor of peace, but not any price. Why do you think they have fought for the last 3 years.

Bollocks, the Irish had been fighting the English for over 600 years

Well it was more like 800 years, but I'm not going split hairs.

It's always hilarious watching Stav try to dress his biased opinions up as fact.

By the sounds of things, old Stav is great mates with the Don because he appears to know everything about him and how he thinks.

Gosh, Stav, you're wasted in that Irish IT job. The Dems would have paid big money for somebody like you, who can read The Don's mind from across the pond. They could have anticipated all his moves and not been thrashed within an inch of their lives at the elections.

Shall I contact the Dems and tell them I have a secret Irish weapon for them that will ensure they never lose to The Don again?

PS, I'll only take 5% because a small piece of the unlimited amount of money they would be willing to pay for you're esoteric knowledge of Trump, is still a large sum.

You'll be able to buy a yacht bigger than Connor's.

Plum its not actually hard to know what Donald Trump is about, you just (A) need to be outside the cult (B) not be an idiot. But then again I suppose its harder than just being programmed to say Trump Derangement Syndrome and Orange man bad over and over.

Haha more "facts", Stav?

C. Go to your left wing sources to get your ‘truth bombs’.

But let’s see, I say the best deal can be obtained by making Putin look good which I think is Trump’s tactic. Your response….Orange Man Bad.

I say the more Zelensky pisses him off, the worse for the Ukraine. Your response….Orange Man Bad.

I say cutting the best deal available ….you say giving Putin everything he wants. Twisting words

You say the Majority of Ukranians want to fight on rather than accepting a bad deal. Gallup says…..

Gallup Poll (August–October 2024): 52% of Ukrainians favored negotiating an end to the war as soon as possible, while 38% believed the country should continue fighting until victory

You say the Russians are tapped out….but when I say the Ukranians are tapped out it’s the ‘narrative of the Ukraine can’t fight on much longer’. Ignoring the fact that those who want peace negotiations has increased dramatically.

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Easy arguments to make….the Ukranians should go on fighting to save Europe and the real objective, expose the Orange Man. Easy arguments to make when being brave was blowing up old men in motor boats and killing horses in Hyde Park.

I see Hysteria still doesn’t have the integrity to correct his headline. So unwilling to be corrected he prefers a misleading headline to remain uncorrected. Left wing ethics.

Haha more "facts", Stav?

You wouldn't facts if they bit you on the arse.

But let’s see, I say the best deal can be obtained by making Putin look good which I think is Trump’s tactic. Your response….Orange Man Bad.

You think its Trump tactic because its allows you to deny reality.

I say the more Zelensky pisses him off, the worse for the Ukraine. Your response….Orange Man Bad.

Trump already hates Zekensky. He's deliberately looking to take offense from him. He wants Zelensky gone. Will it be harder for Ukraine without American support, absolutely. But Zelenksy cannot allow Ukraines future to be jeopardize to simply appease the orangutan spotting Russian talking points in the oval office.

I say cutting the best deal available ….you say giving Putin everything he wants. Twisting words

No twisting of words, an accurate description of reality.

You say the Majority of Ukranians want to fight on rather than accepting a bad deal. Gallup says…..

Gallup Poll (August–October 2024): 52% of Ukrainians favored negotiating an end to the war as soon as possible, while 38% believed the country should continue fighting until victory

The Gallup poll doesn't contradict me because it doesn't put forward what conditions Ukrainian's would be willing to accept to end the war as soon as possible. Surrendering would end the war as soon as possible, do you think Ukrainian's would accept that?

You say the Russians are tapped out….but when I say the Ukranians are tapped out it’s the ‘narrative of the Ukraine can’t fight on much longer’. Ignoring the fact that those who want peace negotiations has increased dramatically.

I never said the Russian's were tapped out. Russia has certain advantages still and certain constraints, but its not in a imminent position of winning the war on the battlefield.

I'm not ignoring the fact that more people want peace, You're the one ignoring that the terms of any such peace deal are of critical importance.

Easy arguments to make….the Ukranians should go on fighting to save Europe and the real objective, expose the Orange Man. Easy arguments to make when being brave was blowing up old men in motor boats and killing horses in Hyde Park.

I'm not the one making the easy argument. The terms of the peace deal are of critical importance. Ukraine are not going to sign up to deal that could mean the end of their country a few months or a year or two down the line.

LOL and more pathetic whataboutism. Shouldn't you lot be out exterminating the native Americans?

Misrepresentation, covered up by word choices. You say:

As for the suffering of the Ukrainian people its clear no one wants the war to end more than the Ukrainian's themselves but its also clear the majority of Ukrainian's would rather fight on than accept a bad deal that jeopardizes Ukrainian statehood. They feel they have no choice.

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In fact the majority of the Ukranians want peace negotiations:

Gallup Poll (August–October 2024): 52% of Ukrainians favored negotiating an end to the war as soon as possible, while 38% believed the country should continue fighting until victory. ?

And you omit any references to the massive increase in this view:

May 2022 (Kyiv International Institute of Sociology - KIIS poll): About 82% of Ukrainians believed the war should continue until full territorial integrity was restored, with only 10% favoring negotiations.

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There is a contradiction in the numbers in that 58% still appear to be against any territorial concessions…so what constitutes an acceptable agreement is murky. But only 38% want to fight on to achieve victory.

Those numbers are justification for negotiations…..the difficulty comes if a peace can be achieved that solves geo political considerations, but doesn’t get full majority support in the Ukraine….do we then encourage them to continue sending their young men to the charnel house.

Here’s another trend to put in your pipe:

These figures represent a marked change from earlier in the conflict. In 2022, shortly after the full-scale invasion, 73% of Ukrainians preferred to fight until victory. By 2023, this number had decreased to 63%, and by 2024, it further declined to 38%.

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And I have no family connection to the US in the 19th century, perhaps some of your Irish emigrants were involved in those massacres? But my father went to fight in WW2 at age 17 and my uncles were not much older. My wife’s father spent 3 years in a German Concentration camp. How about your’s.

"My wife’s father spent 3 years in a German Concentration camp. "

What was he? The kamp kommandant or just one of the guards?

A South African lad captured first by the Italians who then escaped. He was recaptured taking two bullets, by a German patrol and spent three years in deprivation.

Once again you and the scum who liked your comment show you have no class.

In fact the majority of the Ukranians want peace negotiations:

Gallup Poll (August–October 2024): 52% of Ukrainians favored negotiating an end to the war as soon as possible, while 38% believed the country should continue fighting until victory. ?

And you omit any references to the massive increase in this view:

No where did I deny Ukrainian's weren't in favor or negotiations. What you refuse to acknowledge is that Ukraine has red lines. It wants peace but not at the cost of losing its sovereignty.

There is a contradiction in the numbers in that 58% still appear to be against any territorial concessions…so what constitutes an acceptable agreement is murky. But only 38% want to fight on to achieve victory.

Its not murky. They have stated that they are willing to accept territorial concessions (which is a massive concession) in exchange for ironclad security guarantees. There is no such sign of anything like being given by the American's who appear to be unwilling to provide even a backstop role to the Europeans who are offering to do most of the heavy lifting.

Ukraine will also not accept forced demobilization, limits on the size of the army, the end of aid into Ukraine, nor will it accept any terms that block its future entry into the EU.

Those numbers are justification for negotiations…..the difficulty comes if a peace can be achieved that solves geo political considerations, but doesn’t get full majority support in the Ukraine….do we then encourage them to continue sending their young men to the charnel house.

Ukraine has always being willing to negotiate, its Putin that never has been. So far Trump negotiating tract does anything but solve geo political considerations, it does the exact opposite. And again you spout Russian talking points, encouraging young men to the charnel house, bollock's you insult Ukraine's own agency in whether it chooses to fight or not.

Here’s another trend to put in your pipe:

These figures represent a marked change from earlier in the conflict. In 2022, shortly after the full-scale invasion, 73% of Ukrainians preferred to fight until victory. By 2023, this number had decreased to 63%, and by 2024, it further declined to 38%.

Again, this tells you absolutely nothing about what Ukraine is willing to accept in exchange for that peace.

And I have no family connection to the US in the 19th century, perhaps some of your Irish emigrants were involved in those massacres? But my father went to fight in WW2 at age 17 and my uncles were not much older. My wife’s father spent 3 years in a German Concentration camp. How about your’s.

Pity your father and uncle aren't still alive, they might be able to explain to you the dangers of appeasing authoritarians. My great grand father went to fight in World War I also age 17, was wounded at the Somme and twice decorated.

Actually I rather suspect most soldiers would bemoan the futility of war….not the need to continue fighting and slaughtering young men to satisfy politicians or 80 year old principles.

Ukraine was right to fight when invaded, otherwise their country was lost. Now they are in a 3 year battle with dwindling resources. They have saved much of their country and from the West’s standpoint, demonstrated the limits of Russian military power….good results.

But if the fighting continues the risk of a major collapse is more likely. They could still lose it all. No peace deal will ever guarantee Russia won’t resume aggression 5 years from now. But the best bet for that is a deal which has benefits the Russians perceive as sufficient.

Anything short of that invites a Treaty of Versailles type reversal. A ‘tough’ treaty can have exactly the opposite effect to that intended. So the European politicians channeling the danger of appeasement, should dig a little deeper into their history to Versailles and learn the dangers of humiliation which created the preconditions for WW2.

Ukraine’s best bet is an American deal with Putin that doesn’t humiliate Russia and which is good enough for Zelensky’s to sell to the Ukrainian people.

The fact is that most of the above is based on media stories and not related to what the meeting in Jedda is in fact dealing with. I thought of responding to BS spreading on site by some members I just ones toa dd to sea what comes out of the Jedda meeting which no seems todeal with Ukraibne issues - as well as the ME s well as security issues worldwide and nt only Europe. Most of those issues could affect Ukraine 0but oter sisues are a;so important,

If there as no progress on issues the meeting would have eded - bit it is ongoing, So wait until the outcomes having been anounced before spiling BS on site,

Actually I rather suspect most soldiers would bemoan the futility of war….not the need to continue fighting and slaughtering young men to satisfy politicians or 80 year old principles.

Again that's an insult to Ukrainian soldiers fighting, they are fighting for their survival and Ukraines right to exist as a free nation, not to satisfy politicians or an old principal.

https://kyivindependent.com/we-asked-ukrainian-soldiers-if-theyd-fight-russia-with-their-bare-hands/

Ukraine was right to fight when invaded, otherwise their country was lost. Now they are in a 3 year battle with dwindling resources. They have saved much of their country and from the West’s standpoint, demonstrated the limits of Russian military power….good results.

But if the fighting continues the risk of a major collapse is more likely. They could still lose it all. No peace deal will ever guarantee Russia won’t resume aggression 5 years from now. But the best bet for that is a deal which has benefits the Russians perceive as sufficient.

You simply are not getting it. There is nothing the Russian's will perceive as sufficient except the end of Ukraine as a sovereign state outside of direct Russian control. Russia will keep coming back until its made to stop. The only thing the Russian's respect is force.

Anything short of that invites a Treaty of Versailles type reversal. A ‘tough’ treaty can have exactly the opposite effect to that intended. So the European politicians channeling the danger of appeasement, should dig a little deeper into their history to Versailles and learn the dangers of humiliation which created the preconditions for WW2.

How exactly is Europe trying to humiliate Russia exactly... is it by simply not agreeing to giving Putin everything he wants?

Ukraine’s best bet is an American deal with Putin that doesn’t humiliate Russia and which is good enough for Zelensky’s to sell to the Ukrainian people.

The American's are are no where close to a deal that Zelensky can sell to his people. An extortionate resource and mineral deal with no security guarantees...how is going to sell that to his people?

Stav I agree with most of your above comments but if I can add a few.

I don't believe for a moment that Putin was ever interested in a peace deal, he's ego won't allow for it and nothing short of wiping Zelensky and Ukraine would satisfy him.

Trump dislikes Zelensky and the only interest he has in a peace deal is to get his hands on Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Under Trump's peace deal Ukraine would end up with nothing.

Putin even at this stage shows no interest in making any concessions and/or to act with sincerity. He's kinda saying it's you who wants peace not me but I'll have it on my terms.....meaning Ukraine is left shackled, stripped of weapons and economically ruined.

Your calculus is things will be sufficiently better for the Ukraine at some point in future, to justify the continued physical destruction of their country and the deaths of young soldiers and civilians. I don’t believe that, especially without American support. This may be the last chance to achieve a peace without a surrender. Time will tell.

The fact is that the BS above is not the peace deal - of which nobody knows bugger-all - but by demonizing of Trump and his Government, Trump is the one who tries to stop the war because he does not care about what happens to people of Ukraine and of having a battle in the USA to protect the country where the previous Government were trying foolishly to keep spending money on wasteful, fruitless and corupt basis, Where poliicians were as corrupt as their bureaucratic partners and where the country has to borrow money to keep their party polticians happy, As itis necessary to rebuild the US army that became the laug hing stock opf countries who hate the USA and where energy provision was ruled by ineffective green projects that under-delivers - while insted of supporting nuclear power supply money was spent on importing sun panels from China that prove to be inadequate. Where the Dmocrat politicians encourage internal terrorism to fight to retain the ultra-corrupt policies,

I think some people who claim that they know everything about US Politics and systems at preeent should read the editoriuial of the backbone of the DP - namely the New York Times - but the Headline and contense were given so try the following:-

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/opinion/democrats-strategy-2024.html

In any event the fact is thatnothing discussed above had nothing to do with the peace deal - butr everthing to do with the "hate Trump caompaign" of the legacy leftist media, They publish BS instead of real news. Instead of waiting for the utcome of what is negotiated is not known so speculation trying to attck Trump personally is what is being published and idiocy reign supreme. From what is written above everyth ing is twisted to detroy democrcy worldwide in the interest of demonizing Trump. In Ukraine demcoracy has gone out of existence over the past decade - but the US must protect the most corrupt regime in Europe and competes with the Democrats in the USA to destroy the concept of Democracy in the world in using idiotic policies,

My only advice is wait until what is being negotiated is protecting people worldwide and results in for instance saving of astronauts stranded in space due to Government incompetense and corruption. So Trump use top class manages to clean out the USA corruption champions and the Democrats encourage terrorism against any changes necessary to save the US economy from imminent collapse, Amazing BS,

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I don’t believe that, especially without American support.

Zelensky is on a hiding to nothing, his only hope is continued American support and there's a chance that might happen once Trump has decided that Putin is not going to let go of the land that holds Ukraine's rare earth.

Trump doesn't care about Ukraine or Zelensky the only thing he cares about is American interest.

Rare Earth is the future...bigtime. Right now America is at the back of a long queue in comparison to China who is way out in front.

There is a limit to how long Putin can play his game when he runs out of time Trump will have to decide to step in military or ask Nato to step in.

Correct your misleading headline.