Was Biden blackmailed by the Ukrainians to undermine peace negotiations and support Ukraine in the War

Mozart

"If such a statement was made every newspaper in the world would have reported it…..reproduce one article.  It’s not my responsibility to verify your nonsense…it’s your’s"

The above statement is totally idiotic.   Does the media you apparently read ever record anything negative iro of idiot supreme in the WH.    They try to cove for him and never publish anuthing that could be regarded as a negative.   You come up with the type of BS SB and Stav came up with,    They know nothing  about the corruption of politicians in Washington and Stav even claim there si none.   

That is because they believe in is in total control of their minds and they cannot think for themsleves - they are told by the media what they may think and may not.    Let me add something  -  Stav was totally idiotic when the Mueller report came out with BS about Trump being supported in the 2016 and Trump did nothing to stop the interference.    The  fact  is there were Russians who you claimed spent $41 000 on pro-Trump advertisements - which was bordering on non-existent with zero impact on the election anyway.   Now lets get back to Stav belief that Trump and Putin colluded on the issue despite no real evidence being found by Muelller and the subsequent  Durham report that found the whole story was started by lies concocted by Clinton and the Democrats and added to by the Obama Administration.     

But what could Trump do even of there was meddling in the election.  He was not the President in 2016 and had no authority to legally do anything,     Clinton was totally corrupted by the Russian  Government  and Ukraine and so was her campaign manager Podesta who got 75 000 shares in a Russian Company with links to the Kremlin as a gift.   That story made him a worried man and he raised the problem with Clinton - it read that she said she "has direct access to Putin's inner sanctum."     There is ample proof of the e-mail Clinton sent to Podesta and also of the 75 000 shares Podesta got.    

Do you want to join the league of unthinking idiots we have on site.   Non-thinking Idiots remain a problem on this site - so should you be added to that list?

So you really think if Biden made a speech saying Putin must go, nobody in the media would report it? You can’t be serious….oops, yes you can.

Mozart

Why would both efforts of Macron and Turkish Foreign  broke down after progress was shown?   In the article of Fox news on the Macron effort they clearly wrote that the Biden speech which was in an accompanying  video clip as well destroyed Macron's  efforts to reach an agreement and embarrassed him badly.

You are hiding behind the fact you have not seen any newspaper article where the issue was dealt with.   You disputed the existence of bio-labs in Ukraine was a Putin lie - because the media said it did not exist.   That was the case until the idiotic Biden's Deputy Secretary under oath in the Senate admitted the existence of the Bio-labs.  But the media  even after the admission insisted that the bio-labs do not exist.   You fell for that media lies as well.   

I do not imagine things and make logical conclusions.

Well its obvious he did not see it, why do you think he is asking for a link to said statements on Fox.

You made the claim yet are completly unable to provide proof toback your statements. The onus is on you, if you can provide proof I am sure Moz will accept it, all he is asking for is proof.

Stop hiding behind your bluster man

Biden is  scum who use bribes to get wealthy.     I put absolutely nothing beyond him.   He tried his absolute best to destabilize the world and since nobody trust him the leaders of many more countries are trying to forge new alliances to secure their country protection.        

I don't think Mike understands that watching or reading media then making up additional stuff in his head to go along with it does not constitute reality. 

Ja Maaik, Orange man bad...Biden man way worse...scum, and the FBI running cover for him...fun ahead as it all comes tumbling down.

Out of curosity do you believe Mike's claim's that Biden made a speech before the Russo-Ukraine war began claiming the goal of the war to get rid of Biden or that Biden has been recorded boasting about blowing up NordStream?

No I don't, but that doesn't mean the USA is not using the Ukraine war as a means to weaken Russia...

As for NordStream...either Ukraine or the USA and their cronies ...definitely not Russia...and although I think the dam was probably Russia, it's not definite...I won't put it past Zelensky...he's not the gentle dwarf he pretends to be...he's got a good PR team, but he ain't no saint. 

Stav

You hate the truth as much as the media who provide lies to you wants you to hate any opposition arguments to what you have been taught by the media to believe.    Your escape is to claim that anything  that counter your believe are based on lies.   How many times has the media lied to you and you faithfully posted the lies on site?

When there are written material proving corruption in Government of the USA  and there are also clear evidence that the media lied - you still insists that whatsoever is written on this site countering your allegations are lies.       I would rather be careful in using that term since you h have spread media lies on this site constantly:-

*    The Horowitz investigation - claim you did not know about it.

*     The Mueller investigation - found no evidence of collusion yet you claim that Putin favors Trump as President and by paying $41 000 to the media platforms and Trump accepted it so $41 000 spent on internet adverts had a crucial impact on the election.   You claimed that the Russians hacked the computer-system of the NDC - if so why did the NDC asked a Ukraine owned company that developed Crowdstrike and not the FBI to undertake an investigation and Crowstrike claimed there was hacking - but later said there was no hacking of the DNC Computer.   By the way what could Trump to  stop the Russians from paying out the $41000 dollar ads?   He was not a Government employee during the election campaign and he has no grounds to do anything.   .   

*      The Russian Hoax based on lies concocted by the Democrats and spread to the media with the assistance of the Obama Administration.    The Durham Special Council Report  indicated that the whole Democratic Party involvement to invent lies to support their agenda.

Mike 

You make the most stupendous claim's yet can never provide evidence to back them up. You claimed Biden is record on having said that before the Russian invasion began that the aim of the war was to replace Putin and another occasion that Biden boasted about destroying Nordstream.

The first claim implies Biden and the US where behind the war and the second claim would have caused severe strain among the US and its European allies. In addition if America was secretly behind both the war and the Nordstream bombing, why on earth would Biden openly admit to either? Had he said either of these things they would have been major news stories in virtually every country in the world. The Russian's themselves would be shouting it from the roof tops and even if the the western media was complicit in covering it up, it would have spread across the internet like wild fire.

But no only you have apparently come across these recordings and when asked to provide evidence you have been unable to do so, a reoccurring theme. Instead as you always do when asked to provide links you waffle on about other unrelated topics, mispresent what other people are saying and just talk general shite. 

Surely on some level you must realise your talking rubbish.

Cross Talk ; War without end?

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/

The panels conclusion is ...This War will End, WHEN PEOPLE OF GOODWILL WILL COME TOGETHER?

I should not bother to respond.

You are typically part of the mindset hatred problem fueled by absolute ignorance, without any true knowledge or understanding of what is reality and a huge chip on your shoulder that parrots mainstream media as a weapon. An utter idiot.

F.U.

War would end tomorrow if Russia just withdrew from all Ukrainian territory.

Well our cabinet didn't have enough bribe money in Warsaw for 126 people disembarking. 

The War will end tomorrow once Biden endorse the Minsk agreement - there is no evidence of any statement  of that by Biden.   If he publicly endorse that agreement and send honest representatives to help with implementation  or allow a neutral nation to supervise implementation by the Kiev Government and the Donbas area  - as well as ensure that NATO encroachment do not take place.   It will also help if the bio-labs in Ukraine are closed - especially the one in Odessa built in 2018 by the USA  Government and operated  jointly by the Ukraine and USA Governments.  

There is no chance of that happening since his handlers will not allow it.                    

 So back to normal.    The African leaders who visited Kiev were told by Zelensky he will not negotiate with Putin - but if Russia gets another President he would negotiate.    That is in lie with the Biden doctrine and it is likely that he was instructed by Washington to undermine the peace mission of the AU.    

The obvious agenda of Bide is they use the proxy war to unseat Putin as President of Russia and that agenda is firmly in place.   It will not stop the war as the African Union leaders were sent packing by Zelenskyy  on the basis promoted by Biden.   

As Tucker said - Ukraine got assistance to the tune of $74 billion and nobody knows where the money went.   When it was reported that only 30% of the armaments provided reached the fighting army and confirmed in Senate under oath - the Biden Administration said they will send a Colonel to the to Kiev to deal with the discrepancy.   They sent extra soldiers to Kiev to guard the US Embassy - but there was no threat to the embassy to warrant that.    We are told every day about the glorious victories of the Ukraine army fighting the Russians so why sent soldiers to Ukraine to guard the embassy which is not under threat?

Apparently both Biden and Zelenskyy love the money they can make out of the War.   When a Mexican cartel leader exposed his possession of a rocket system and claimed he bought the rocket from Ukraine - then we know why weapons donated by the USA ends up in Mexico and other unstable countries in the World.     

When the issue of the dam destruction came up  for discussion  the brilliant Stav came up with the excuse that the canal serving the Crimea was shut down by the Ukraine Government years ago.   Modern developments indicate that water for urban use are not based on canal use - for that purpose pipelines are used to decrease potential pollution and even water theft.   The only canal usage is in respect of  agricultural scheme usage of water.    In SA there are nurmerous examples of the preference of  pipeline systems ahead of canals - Try the PE supply system and the Durban system for example, so who invented the closure of canals myth? 

They sent extra soldiers to Kiev to guard the US Embassy - but there was no threat to the embassy to warrant that.

Liberals do not fast forward theirs messages.

The extra personel is sent to reinforce the front line, acting as spotters and counsellors to coordinate the ukrainian effort.