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Why do people remain sentimental and attach to Africa even when they left Africa?.

Started by clevermike10 REPLIES567 VIEWS· 28 Sept 2023, 19:08
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2023, 19:08
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28 Sept 2023, 19:08#1

I started writing about the above and why I refer extensively to history when I deal with the world situation at present.

My  family owned one of the most beautiful farms imaginable for generations.    The history of the farm and especially the buildings on it had a lasting impression on me.    The farm was first settled in the 1720's - that is a mere 70 years after Van Riebeeck landed in the Cape Town.    In those days owners did not build homes in the area.    They would developed farms but did not regard it as their residence.   The farmers at the time hate all forms of Government and when the Government got to near to them they moved further inland.   

The exception was the farm Zeekogat where I was borne and grew up.    When the Dutch East India Company decided to open a parsonage in Swellendam in 1746. the chap who settled the farm originally decided he want to get away from Government - farmers - even today farmers - hate to pay taxes to any Government.   He sold the farm to the first Mulder who came to SA in 1734 as a soldier and  during that time the soldiers were released from duty and often work as foremen on  major farms in the Colony.- an example being the Melck family, whose descendants still own extensive farms in the Western Cape.     .    In any away in  1745 the Swellendam magistrate arrived and the fam was then registered  in the name of Mulder.   

It took some time before the Mulder owner decided to start constructing permanent buildings  on the farm and the first such building was a 100 meter stable he built - still in existence.   He died in 1768 and his son Hildegart Mulder inherited.  He ultimately decided to build a permanent home on the farm and the first home was completed in 1795.    The second farmhouse was started in 1802 by his son-in- law and completed in 1821 - ever time a child was born the building was extended.   

The farm  one of the most beautiful in South Africa near the famous Sleeping Beauty on the Langeberg mountain range offered spectacular scenery.    But it as the buildings that intrigued me as a child and left a deep impression on me.   When I was a child we were told the history of the farm - about visits by royalty and by Governors and later on Presidents,    We were told about the cellars where slaves used to sleep.   The latter caused massive problems for my mother - who was an extremely liberal and kind-hearted Cape Afrikaans lady and had she chains in the slave quarter removed and landed herself in serious trouble with the National Heritage Commssion as a result.   

Be it as it may the farm were written as a place about which a number of books dating back to the and as a child we were told to learn from the past and not to make the same mistakes as was made in  the past     That had a major influence on me and in school I became the top history pupil   

The circle of friends we were allowed to visit were restiicted and we learned nothing about life and the challenges we would face later in life.   We rarely went to movies and I can remember a few I saw.   The one movie was a cartoon on the origins of the Danube River and I still think that the Blue Danube is one of the nicest tunes I ever heard.    The other movie I saw in the 1950. was War and Peace.    I got intrigued by the story of War and Peace and when as the top History pupil was asked what book I would like to get as a prize I chose War and Peace by Tolstoy.  The book was expensive at the time and in the end a cousin of my mother donated the book - he was the last Chairman of Parliament under the National  Party  Government. as MP for Mossel Bay previously called Aliwal South.             

It took me three years to read - an extremely difficult book to read and understand.   In the end though I came to the conclusion it was the best novel ever written.    He used his grandmother and grandfather - his father - his wife and her sisters as the main family deslt with in the book and his characterization  of the people made them come to life..   Being interested in  history I became interested in  Russian History and decided to visit Russia as well.    It was impossible to get a visa from the Communist Government and even though  I went to Europe in 1973 on a six month holiday I went to East Germany and Hungary - but never to Russia.               .         

In the end I did visit Russia in 1993 and what I saw obviously impressed me as well.   The Russians are highly-cultured and proud of their country.

I do believe that one should learn from History and President Kruger once said  - Take from the past which is noble and build on that your future"   In other words do not repeat mistakes of the past because those mistakes would inevitably have the same disastrous consequences it had in the past.   I was in the fact in France a number of times and made good friends with various  people and in particular the head of SAUR in SA -  the French Company who through determined efforts on my part  got a 30 year concession to operate the municipal water and sewerage services,    In  2003 I had a talk with him about the Iraq war and his comments were that the United States is making a huge mistake in attacking Iraq.    When I asked why - he said the French over a thousand years have learned one thing - never attack any Muslim  country - you can never really win and resultant troubles will last for decades and even centuries decades and even centuries,

The present war in Ukraine will inevitably have the same impact.   Yugoslavia was a typical  example of how artificial countries can never work .    .      

  

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SebPro2,680 posts
28 Sept 2023, 19:45
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28 Sept 2023, 19:45#2

Obviously something gone wrong, dear ol' Mike...yes the decent are all sentimental , they treasure and honour the past when things were a hell of lot better than today.  They were all much better times, no man but now we have mindless hatred  to what governments rule countries we don't understand and none of our business, we are sinking fast, values, legislation, family, politics , character not to mention spiritual values, we used to have disagreements and disputed, now it's turned to emotional hatred.

Our fate is sealed in destruction and God's judgement. Wake up people, confess your mistakes, etc and etc and recant, turnaround before it's too late.

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SebPro2,680 posts
28 Sept 2023, 19:46
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28 Sept 2023, 19:46#3


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2023, 22:09
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28 Sept 2023, 22:09#4

Seb 

The message was at last posted   When I think of the past I think of a Civilization Gone with the Wind.   I also understand what Karen Blixen wrote in her book  Out of Africa.-  "I had a farm in Africa" was the start of her book and it was a typical example of what I mean  about the present scenario.

We had a civilaztion established by our forefathers - and what are we doing with it?   We are destroying it because we pretend to be to clever andx our aancestors were stupid.    .        .   

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
29 Sept 2023, 07:56
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29 Sept 2023, 07:56#5

We are Africans. The climate,energy, people they are who we are.We're not Russian or Ukranian and let us not go and force our boundary on their borders. 


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Sept 2023, 08:11
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29 Sept 2023, 08:11#6

The same way you feel sentimental about a car you loved and sold to a complete moron that ended up painting it some weird color and ultimately fucking it up.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Sept 2023, 09:34
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29 Sept 2023, 09:34#7

Biltong, boerie, klippies and koosisters.......where else would u get dat!?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Sept 2023, 12:07
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29 Sept 2023, 12:07#8

The World is being prepared for the revealing if Anti Christ who will rule the planet for 42 months. He will seek to destroy all values and principles of God. He is like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour. He is a liar and the father of lies.

A third of the people will perish. 

As we get nearer to that time when Anti Christ comes, the World will become an ever darker place. You haven't seen the half of it yet. 

At the conclusion of the 42 month period Christ returns. 

The Great Tribulation lasts 7 years. The last portion of 42 months is the period Anti Christ rules. 

Man king is being influenced on an increasing degree of intensity by Demonic forces. In fact it's is amazing to watch all this unfold acc ording to the scriptures. 



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Sept 2023, 12:20
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29 Sept 2023, 12:20#9

Hmmmm . . . interesting. So if Bozo becomes the Republican nominee and wins the election then he'll be fulfilling the scriptures and we'll have lots of lies and live in a very dark place . . . only he won't see out his 4 year term, he'll be impeached or assass inated 6 months before.

It's all starting to make sense. This could make a believer of me!

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Sept 2023, 13:47
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29 Sept 2023, 13:47#10

Trump is not the AC...the time is not right yet...probably not in my lifetime...but who knows, the response to Covid was an eye opener!!!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2023, 14:30
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29 Sept 2023, 14:30#11

Putin?

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