Words of a wise man . . .

Anyhow, I do have to go now.

Just remember what Masge said about Argentina and try your best to apply it here.

Cloudy

I love you and wish I have the privilege of meeting you despite all our differences,  

bum plum - Urban Dictionary

Hitler? Really? Just the opposite actually, but who's mind ing the facts anyway...

Words of a wise woman.....

Check out Plumchum's very contrite and tearful little statement on this thread after he lied about Cloudy sending him an email and he created his little fantasy where Cloudy was interested in him . . .

"I can promise two things...

1) to completely leave you alone.

2) that I'll never stop calling the AB foul play out."

So much for this weak little coward's promises.

Stick to making up lies and beating up on the girls, Plumchum, it appears to be all that you're good at.

Hahaha

The simping has begun.

...still awaiting tannie Denise's arrival though.

Don't make us wait to long now, auntie.

...makes you my warriors...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Typical Trumpanzee attitude . . . anyone who treats women with a bit of respect or as an equal must be a simpering little wimp.

You can see this weak coward learned from his hero Bozo.

Cloudy

Even when I differ from you I never was nasty in any way to you.   Sorry it happened - bit I still like you.

As to Trump - I do not like the guy.   However, what I dislike is criminality in Government and there are unfortunately proof that the Obama Administration was involve in corruption.   He stopped investigation of corruption by the FBI through some of his supporters in Management positions.  

If Trump was guilty of any thing they accuse him of there should be some real proof about it and news stories are not prove,   I do not like dishonesty in Government and that must be proved not imagined, 

Anyway - I hate the absence of rugby and other sport.  All that is available on SA TV is replays of games of years ago.

Please forgive me  because I disagree with you.               

Hall Of Fame

10129 posts

F-U-C-K you all!

And then there’s Rooinek being a gentleman to Cloudy:

There it is again . . . the good natured banter has gone and it's all become defensive and slightly indignant.

Any of the other non Kiwis notice this or is it just me? 

Come on the Lions!!!

Hall Of Fame

8271 posts

You know what... I really can't be bothered with this. Brycy said on another post, this is not the airport and you don't have to announce your departure ...that hit a nerve because if it was the airport I'd be jetting off to somewhere more exotic than this place. Enjoy the ruggers. 

Tell us how you really feel, USSRooi

...says Vissie out from behind mama's dress 

You never did get back to me bout dem pop-ups, FishGuts.

Ok VisCrap

"And just like Trump because I despise him, there’s something wrong with me, I’m supposed to feel the same way about him as you do, heaven forbid that a woman should have an opinion about politics or rugby or that I should even disagree with any one of you without you all getting into a froth"

Yes, obviously that's Moz's mode of operation.

What planet are your from/on?

It would all be so much easier if we included in our responses to Cloudy such phrases as...

"Sorry it happened - bit I still like you."

And of course ending with...

"Please forgive me  because I disagree with you."

always helps.

Here, Cloudy. Perhaps it would ease our strained interactions if I always opened with the following...

Cloudy, Moffie is just lying again because it suits his agenda. 

You and I both know that we had one incident a long t ime ago and we've been good friends ever since then, long before Bozo arrived on the scene. Let Moffie spread his childish little lies . . . it's what he does.

Ok Jo seph Stalin, we know the drill. See what I did there?

And Cloudy, 

Sorry to have to say this but Shark only mentioned you and our spat/s because they wanted to draw you back in confidence that they'd have another ally in a fight they can't seem to stop losing.

I'm sorry that they involved you and I'm also sorry that your fell for it.

They booked the ticket but it is you that got on the bus.

See I used the word, "sorry" three times there. 

I'm learning.

I'm only guilty, in this instance, of telling you the truth.

Think on it, don't think on it. Your choice 

Cloudy

Please stay with the truth and prove that it is indeed the truth and not only media stories.   What has Trump done iro human rights to equate him to Hitler?   Please explain that statement of yours and make sure it is true,       ,  

Cloudy

Please stay with the truth and prove that it is indeed the truth and not only media stories.   What has Trump done iro human rights to equate him to Hitler?   Please explain that statement of yours and make sure it is true,       ,  

You mean when Hitler was elected in the first and second presidential elections of 1932?

...and then went on to combine the presidency and chancellorship to become the Fuhrer.

I'm never sure with you, Cloudy. Is the above what you are referring to?

You see? Plum is the perfect example of what I said just above. Too stupid to understand the context.

Ag, fok it. I can't be that mean.

Cloudy, he never won any presidential elections in 1932.

I was talking to Cloudy when i typed that, at the same time that you were busy posting, USSRooi.

Luckily the word Cloudy, is in the comment...

Care to re-evaluate?

USSRooi.

Who exactly is causing all this harm you speak of? 

Just how absurd your comparison is, lay in the answer to that question.

Nah, just give us your condensed version of actual harm.

Are you about to break out into a tirade about a divided America? Hopefully, you're more strategically aware than that.

Okay . . . the condensed version . . .

Thousands of Americans have died or are dying from Covid19 because Bozo didn't believe it was a threat and refused to listen to experts telling him he was making a terrible mistake.

Cloudy

It was not really the way Trump was elected,  There was nothing weird about it,   Trump was elected in key states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania based on two factors and I got that from ABC news - not a Trump favourite at all.

What came out was that the ordinary working class people from 1988 to 2016 were getting poorer and their quality of life declined in that period.   They lost their jobs in tens of thousands and the area became known as the Rust Belt States,   It happened under all subsequent Presidents - Democrats and Republicans in those 28 years.   In their minds the problems were also with the trade deals they saw as exporting jobs to countries like China and Mexico - where labour costs was a fraction of what it was in the USA.    That was the real reason for the Democrats losing those states.   As one ABC commentator said  - both Clinton and Trump - were flawed candidates and the voters  preferred a flawed outsider to a flawed insider.

Even the Democrats realized that things were not going well for them and a media campaign started off about Trump's ties with Putin that helped him in the election.    The Democrats and Clinton  paid an English ex-spy millions to get proof of collusion and he duly came up with claims that there were and it was contained in the Steele Dossier,   The FBI never even tried to verify whether the claims were true and a recent IG report indicated that there were falsified information provided by the FBI - based on the Dossier - to get permission from the FISA Court to spy on the Trump campaign.       

There has been 4 investigations of that story and no proof of linkage between Trump and the Russians were ever found.   The House of Representatives conducted their own investigation an the statements made under oath by 57 members of the Obama Administration  said they had no evidence of links between the Trump campaign and the Russians,   They said that under oath so must we accept that as true?  After making that sworn statement they went out and spouted the Russian story on the media despite their sworn statements.   It has been going on ever since despite the fact that even the Mueller found nothing really that indicates collusion exist,

Politicians as a rule are not the most honest people around.  The Democrats  was not interested in finding out the real reasons why voters whom in the past voted for them - rejected them. So they started a story about Russian Collusion that never happened,   More and more proof came out recently and all indicated that it was a false claim,

The problem for the Democrats was that under Obama certain things happened that indicated serious corruption in the Government  on high level and they feared the consequences of it  being investigated fully - hence their conduct during and after the election,   

If the Russian issue was the story on which you base your remarks about the way he was elected then I am afraid you are wrong,  If indeed there were any real crookery by Trump it was never exposed.  The Russia collusion story was a lie started by the DP and that is what caused the subsequent  problems.       

Red Rocket

Can we confirm that this is your condensed version of the "harm" Trump has caused and will be the overriding factor in why he is remembered as the Hitler of our day?

Would you like to add anything?