5 problems emerged for the Boks against the Argies

I’m saying that 2006 was before the WC moron……schplotttttttttttt!

Ok let’s have their ranking over a 6 year period.

Not to mention the fact that back then it was only really NZ, SA, England and Oz that ruled the roost - the likes of France, Ireland, Scotland, Argentina and Wales played second fiddle for the most

That has significantly changed now days with only Wales lagging

But NZ and Oz aren’t the force they used to be, and France and Ireland don’t have WC belief. It’s a much less formidable competitive set.

No NZ and Oz right now are not weak and who gives a shit whether the current French or Irish side have achieved anything at WC’s - sides are not defined solely by WC’s

Your rankings mean fuck all giving me one month at a time - plenty happens over a year

Right so rankings mean nothing, only flawed, biased opinion counts

No Im saying giving one months rankings means nothing as they often change on a regular basis.

Argentina may have been ranked as high as 4 in 2006, but that may be testament to the strength / weakness of the opposition.

For example, Ireland and France were not as strong as they are now.

Exactly Chip but these facts are beyond Moffie

Back then the Argies were effectively 2nd tier

Argentina was ranked as high as 3 in 2006.

For the whole of 2006? And what about the years before and after that?

Here it is….you obviously can’t distinguish dates, so this is February 2005

What fucking part of one months ranking counts for fuck all, do you not get?

Ill paint pictures for you

To get an idea where a side ranked over a period of time we would need to look at their ranking from Jan 2006 to Dec 2006 and the same for say 2003 to 2005 then 2007 to 2009

Get it?

Argentina started 2007 ranked 5th, rose to 4th by the start of the WC and finished the year ranked third. They maintained that 3rd ranking through the first half of 2008 and ended the year ranked 4th. All of which says they were a legitimate WC semi final opponent.

Contrast that with England in 2023 who started the year ranked 6th and dropped to 8th just before the WC. They rose to 5th by the start end of the year based on their WC showing. But dropped steadily again in 2024 ending the year ranked 7th.

Argentina in 2007 and subsequently in 2008 had a far better record than England in 2023 and 2024.

live with it.

Bullshit provide the evidence over an extended period of time

The only time Argentina have ever been close to being as strong as England is recently back then they offered very little resistance

Plus France, Ireland, Scotland and Italy were far weaker back then than they are now - just like Argentina were

NZ and England are always strong, Oz dipped for a bit but are back

Argentina offered so little resistance that they beat France twice at RWC 2007, Ireland and Scotland….winning the bronze medal. In 2019 we lost to NZ but beat Japan, Wales and England and that was glorious.

Low IQ at work.

No you dumbfuck - back then France, Ireland and Scotland were much weaker than they are now - much like Argentina were

The fact the Argies beat them tells me they won the battle of the average sides back then

Are you saying you have a high IQ old man huh?

France beat NZ , were they also weak…Shorty getting shorter and lower IQ by the minute.

Yes France were weak back then but very capable of pulling off the odd win against the likes of NZ - that’s the French for you

Would you like to provide the NZ vs France record in the years leading up to that game and the years thereafter

I bet you don’t

Minus IQ at work here

Yes France beat NZ in 1999 in the semi finals.

Yes and …..

You still asleep old man?

France are an effective WC team…they almost always make the knockouts. Argentina’s double win against them in 2007 backs up the Bargies high ranking in 2007 and 2008.

One would swear WC’s define a side over an extended period

Wow Moffie you are soooooo dumb

World rankings don’t count and now WCs don't count….next you’ll be saying playing doesn’t count.

Stop lying again Moffie - I said rankings don’t define a side over a period of a month, they would over the teams 8 year cycle

WC’s don’t define a side in total is what I have said - they add to the overall glory of the side, they don’t define the side taken alone for its only a handful of games every 4 years

WC’s are huge and the greatest accolade in the game but form part not the whole of the overall picture

Is your IQ able to comprehend this you fucking liar?

My mind and IQ can’t comprehend bullshit….if rankings over a 2 year period and WC results don’t define a successful team, what does?

"Before the 2007 Rugby World Cup, Argentina was ranked sixth in the world, according to the Wikipedia entry on their national rugby union team. They had risen to sixth in November 2006 and maintained that position until the start of the tournament. "

AI can get things terribly wrong at times.

Oops poor Moffie - nice work Draad

One has to wonder whether good old Moffie is manipulating the facts

He is that desperate to discredit Rassie and our Boks

So more nonsense to correct. Here is the source of weekly rankings. Look it up if you wish:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data:Men%27s_World_Rugby_rankings.tab

But here is the takeaway. Argentinian rankings peaked in 2007 at 3 and held that level till July 2008 after which they slipped to 4 which they held till the end of 2008. And in 2009 they achieved the 4 ranking twice.After that they never got as high as 4 again till 2015…for 2 weeks. They have never been ranked 3 again.

Aw gee Dave will you be a nice porker and thank me as well?

The data shows 2007/2008 was peak Bargie. Case closed and archived.

Just for your reference because I know the nasty columns will confuse you…..here are readings on a monthly start basis :

1/07 …6

2/07… 7

3/07….6

4/07…7

5/07…7

6/07….6

7/07…6

8/07….6

9/07…6

10/07…4

11/07…3

12/07…3

1/08….3

2/08….3

3/08…..3

4/08…3

5/08….3

6/08…3

7/08…4

8/08….4

9/08…4

10/08….4

11/08….4

12/08….4

The golden period of Bargie rugby, they never saw a 3 again. Last time they saw a 4 was October 2015

There is a good reason no doubt that you can’t move away from those two years - I wonder why that is

There is nothing golden about being 6 & 7th back then when you consider how much weaker the likes of France, Ireland, Scotland and Italy were back then

Thanks for confirming how average they were

Nice IQ work there