A vote

We know Lood missed the tackle here, but is Bismark also to blame to some extent?

Yes or No?

So the clip clearly shows they both missed the Argie 9 - case closed Vlagshit.....you ignorant plank.......take your own advice......go get your glasses upgraded......it should be free at specsavers given you are a pensioner

Owned  

So the clip clearly shows they both missed the Argie 9 - case closed Vlag[removed].....you ignorant plank.......take your own advice......go get your glasses upgraded......it should be free at specsavers given you are a pensioner

Owned 

Um the Troof.......at no point am I saying Lood is blameless now am I - so try catch a wake up.......the issue is not about Lood its about Bismark's role. We all know both are guilty of missing the 9......except for the ignorant idiot who calls himself Ceradyne.

JJ missed Barrett, but so did Jean and Morne - get it?  

Thanks for the clip Pakie, now you can see the context of what happened.

You could argue both should have tackled lower. You can also argue that the communication between them was poor as Lood was standing behind the ruck and Bismarck too wide which left a gap for a sniper to run through.

I will blame them both for those reasons

Sharktwat.....maybe if you knew what you were talking about, you would not be stupid enough to be pointing fingers at JJ's defence......the same guy who had the best defensive stats of all SA centres in this years S15 and who's defence was better than Jean's in last years RC

Owned again stupid man.....you are such easy pickings

How stupid are you feeling being the pathetically ignorant fool who is the lone ranger is voting No to Bismark - you must be feeling like a proper prick....something you must be pretty used to.

It must be a toil being such an ignorant rugby man.....I honestly do not know why you bother.....you should stick to something simple like carpet bowls  

Lestat - Morne and tackle just don't go....he is a pathetic defender.

In one of his last tests he missed 6 to 8 tackles in one game

No, if you tackle high you hug the ball carrier, and if he is not that way inclined he simply rolls out of the hug. There should be plenty of evidence to prove that. 

When you tackle the ball, like Frans Steyn tried so many times, and fail, you concede tries.

You rather tackle by way of ball and all, ala Bismarck du Plessis on that ill fated day when Poite couldn't believe it was a legal tackle on Carter, or you do the kak tackle (your opinion) of Lambie style by going low. In so doing, you stop momentum and allow the tackle assist easy access to the ball.

Ah Sharktwat, is the best you can do is bang on about predictions I never made......but given your skill, no doubt you will be able to furnish the board with evidence of these predictions I made.......after all the site has a historic search engine.....be my guest ignorant man.

But good call on the tackle though.....trust you to get it wrong.....here is a suggestion for next time.....try look, think and comprehend before you start typing.......it may save you a few blushes.

Geez you are thick and such bloody easy pickings.......up your game ping pong  

NOOOOOOOOOOOO Moffie, no one is saying Bismark is solely to blame, where did you get that from?

Lood and Bismark are to blame, something idiots like Vlagshit and Sharktwat refute.

But its interesting to note that you want to give Lood 75% of the blame, the inside defender who happens to be one of the players you are anti and you apportion 25% blame to Bismark.........I just find the double standards ironic with regards to the Barrett miss, where Morne, the inside defender, was virtually in the same position as Lood and went high and missed Barrett completely......JJ, like Bismark is covering the outside and has to adjust and try make the tackle on Barrett, like Bismark did on the 9......you give Bismark 25% and you informed us at the time that JJ lost us the test thanks to the Barrett miss.

It was a load of bullshit then as it is now......Lood was more to blame than Bismark - I agree on that........equally......Jean and Morne were more to blame than JJ was with the Barrett miss.......and yes JJ was also to blame.......you get the picture here?

Common denominator here is your dislike of JJ and Lood and your pro Jean, Bismark and Morne.......facts have nothing to do with your takes on the miss by JJ, evidenced by your take on Bismarks miss.

Personally I'd give Lood 60% of the blame, Bismark 40%.......with the Barrett miss, I'd go 45% Jean, 35% Morne and 20% JJ 

Well if you rush then you better make sure you snuff the man out for by rushing you break the defensive line......both Morne and JJ would have been checked by Jean's miss and would have had to alter their original alignment.......Morne was the inside defender and the fact that he got hands on Barrett means he was close enough to try effect the tackle, he went high and missed him......JJ at that point was covering the outside channel and had to turn and try grab Barrett who had slipped past Morne......JJ never had time to get into position and effect a proper tackle.....he was literally clutching at straws and also went high.

Both Morne and JJ would have been offset by Jean's miss and neither were in perfect positions to make a conventional tackle. They both would have had to adjust from their original defensive alignment and its that adjustment that Barrett exploited.

It is always the inside defenders responsibility to tackle the player with ball in hand. After the Jean miss, Morne was left as the inside defender. JJ would have been relying on Morne to make the tackle as he was covering the outside. He would have had to adjust from covering wide in order to try tackle Barrett