Absence of the national treasure underscored

Our scrum was dominant against Oz and against NZ, until Jannie went off in both games. Today when he wasn't there at all our scrum was embarrassing. Jannie is our best scrummager at tighthead by a mile. There will be off days.....but there is no other choice for a crucial scrum in a WC knock out game.

HasBeen I don't think so. If you look at the first scrum where Ayerza got penalized, he seemed very hesitant to follow the wheel. What happened for the rest looked fine to me.

All those Bargie scrums last year are posted on the Board for viewing. My take was our front row last year took the initial hit.....but then the  whole scrum was shunted back by a huge Bargie power pulse. I never saw that today. I saw Koch unbalanced at the hit and folded shortly afterwards.

What a load of crap, what Marcel did when he came on was prove just how ignorant you are when it comes to props and in particular Marcel who made your name mud in that test.

The last time Jannie played against the Argies he got his arse kicked like no tomorrow.

What Marcel did was prove that he and Malherbe are by far our best tightheads.  

After some splendid weeks Koch leaked penalties today against Ben Robinson. What happened is hard to say. Malherbe seemed in control against the Aussie, even though he was on his knees a few times. But that changed when Koch subbed on. To me it seemed that Robinson was hinging against Koch...but clearly it didn't work against Malherbe.

Struggling against Robinson is not unusual for Bok tightheads, Janiie for example has had some torrid games against the rotund Oz. Still this raises some question marks about Koch's prospects.

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Well Moz yes you are completely ignorant when it comes to props and scrums.....for a start the issue against Oz was not Malherbe but Heinke who......I struggle to see how this very fact escapes you.

No he does not go down under pressure, the player that was under pressure was Heinke, the same player the ref kept talking to.......but you are blind to this fact because in your eyes the issue is with Malherbe, the same guy who keeps proving you wrong.

Coenie is on the mend, his career is anything but over so I am not sure what you are on about. Before his injury he was in the form of his life.

You are a fucking joke if you expect me to believe that Marcel was anything but good on Saturday, you are clearly smarting at your ignorant calls. He dominated Ayerza in that only scrum between them....bloody listen to what the commentators said.

The penalty against him was a joke and he never scrummed up, all he did do was scrum the crap out of the Argie replacement loosehead making your name mud in the process.

This is the second time Marcel has made you look stupid, I'm not going to even entertain a response the next time you choose to impart your wisdom on Marcel and Malherbe.....its laughable.

Jannie has been at best solid after a pathetic S15.......Malherbe was better than Jannie when he replaced him against Oz.

Jannie got drilled the last time he played against the Argies......Marcel on the otherhand restored the order.

Actually Draad I thought Koch got a raw deal from the ref, many of his calls were poor......in particular the one where he told Koch he had lost his bind when in fact the replay showed he had not.

There was only one scrum that I recall where Koch got lifted - apart from that, he seemed to be targeted by the ref.

Koch has been good all S15 and remains a great prospect. No doubt useless Meyer will now discard him given his player management record.  

I have little issue with Jannie, he is solid enough......just past it now.

The issue I have is Moz telling us our props are failing when they are doing the opposite.

Look no further than Malherbe improving the scrum when he replaced Jannie against Oz. Moz keeps banging on about the time Heinke was on the field and somehow drew the conclusion that Malherbe was the one struggling......if that was the case then why did the Bok scrum march the Aussies back the minute Malherbe replaced Jannie, while Beast and Bismark were on board.

But best of all is Marcel steading the Bok scrum against the Argies and we have Moz telling us he was struggling.......its a load of crap based primarily on who the player is.