After Erasmus saved the Springboks from destruction -what about other codes of sport

Erasmus was approached by SARU when t became clear that SA Rugby was rapidly self-destructing, the whole process started under Meyer and near to completed by Coetzee.   It was therefore not surprising that in their subsequent Club jobs as coaches both were fired by their clubs for gross incompetence taking the clubs on the sale route to demise.  

Erasmus was in a very strong situation and laid down conditions that SARU accepted.    Those conditions pertained to appointment of supportive staff and team selection and together which his brilliant game plan and HR relationship with everybody and especially the players were the main reasons for the Springboks winning both the RC and WC trophies amd moving up from no 6 in the world rankings to no 1,  

Soccer has SA still at about 70 in the world ranking and one has to admit that maladministration by the Administration is part of the major problems faced by Soccer in SA.  The other major problem affecting all codes of sport relating to Government Policies that - as the case is ion other codes pf sport - do not provide for proper administration including  development programs from school level upwards,   Be it as it may most people - including myself gave up on soccer becoming internationally competitive years ago.    

This brings me to cricket.   In the latest Cricket World Cup it became clear that cricket was going down rapidly,  Cricket administration was boldly corrupt and totally incompetent,   The bottom dell out when the sponsors started withdrawing from supporting through financial support for the Proteas,   They were basically saying that they do not want to see themselves associated with SA Cricket,   Successive reports indicated the need for urgent adjustment = but nothing happened until the Government threatened to withdraw recognition of the SA Cricket Board - that would have removed SA from participating on international level,  

It was also clear that in the case of cricket dishonesty and incompetence was encountered in the area of coaching and team selection,    In the end in a desperate move to get the professional branch of cricket on a sound basis SA Cricket appointed Graeme Smith as Director pf Rugby and Mark Boucher as Chief Coach of the Proteas,   The public welcomed these appointments and was hoping for improvement,   However, top players do not necessarily have the ability to manage sport organizations - for instance John Smit was a failure at the Sharks - but the two mentioned appointees seemed to be the right ones,   We all thought that there was despite initial losses an improvement in competitiveness  would return to cricket,   However, the T20I's against England showed some very serious deficiencies in essentially the team selections and a total disregard of  performance as a key selection requirement,   The result was to be expected and a 3-0 loss ion the series was a new low for SA Cricket,    Instead of following the string stand of Erasmus - the two followed the example of Meyer and Coetzee on the destruction route,   

I am at this stage losing hope insofar aa Smith and Boucher is concerned and those two is totally in lime with the gross incompetence of Meyer and Coetzee.   It is clear that both appointees failed in what thy were supposed to do,                           

Why don't you cut to the chase and erect a phallic José Erasmus monument you can worship?

Now Boucher came up with the following story:-

Proteas coach Mark Boucher believes his team can turn around their fortunes ahead of the One-Day International series against England starting on Friday at Newlands.

It certainly will require plenty of work over the coming days – both on and off the field – to get the Proteas into a position where they can compete with the world champions.

England were simply the dominant outfit in the preceding T20 series. After toying with South Africa in the first two matches that ended in close finishes but still managing to get over the line, the tourists flexed their muscles fully in the final match of the series on Tuesday to romp home by nine wickets with 14 balls still remaining in the innings. It was the first time South Africa had suffered a 3-0 T20I series whitewash on home soil.

Although England bid farewell to superstars such as Ben Stokes, Jofra Archer, Dawid Malan, Sam Curran and Chris Jordan for the three ODI’s, they remain a serious force in any form of white-ball cricket with Moeen Ali among others expected to fill the vacancies.

South Africa, meanwhile, will be without premier fast bowler Kagiso Rabada for the ODI series after the 25-year-old was forced to withdraw due to an abductor strain injury.

The home side will at least, though, be able to welcome the return of Andile Phehlukwayo and David Miller from quarantine, while there are also couple of youngsters such as Janneman Malan and Kyle Verreynne eager to build on their good form shown during the last series against Australia prior to lockdown.

“We have a different squad. There are some fresh faces coming into the squad, some youngsters, and we will feed off that. We understand that it’s not a short journey, it’s a long one.

We will keep learning and we’re being tested against a very good team. But that’s how we want it. I don’t see it as a problem to turn everything around in a short time,” Boucher said at Newlands on Tuesday evening.

Phehlukwayo’s return will certainly be monitored closely. The all-rounder will no doubt not be fully match-fit after spending the past fortnight in isolation, but was seen running around Boland Park last Sunday.

His overall value to the Proteas was certainly highlighted during the T20 series with Boucher lamenting the lack of balance with the starting XI due to the absence of the all-rounders.

Furthermore, South Africa have also played three matches together now since the eight-month break due to Covid-19 and should be much better prepared.

“There was a bit of rustiness (in the T20I series). We had to cancel three of our warm-up games. We never had our all-rounder for various reasons. We lacked our sixth bowler. You can’t hide that fact. We never had that type of cover,” he said.

“But we don’t want to make excuses. We have a determined group of guys here that want to improve and want to learn. They want to compete with the world’s best."

Well - the question remains - why used players who failed in the past consistently - Players like Beuren Hendriks. Van Biljon, Hendriks, Klaasen - the tired old faces in the T20I series,   Then also - why was one of the best bowlers in IPL never used?   Why was Hendriks - who always was the worst bowler against international teams even used in the first T20! -  when in one over he gave away 28 runs - 8 of which came from wides,  

Why was Janneman Malan, Verreyne and Miller not in the T20 team and now mentioned as possibilities in the ODI series,   Van Biljon's battings trike rate is just about 100 - which is way too slow for especially T20's.   Klaasen has become a Christmas better he has one good match followed by 11 poor ones.

In any event Bavuma is not an opening batsman and failed badly in all three against England.    We know he is in the team as a quota batsman.   

I think that Boucher and perhaps even Smith realized that they fouled up in the past series and maybe they should consult with Erasmus as to the way forward in the coaching set-up.   I am sure he will  gave them good advice - especially when itc omes to team selection.        

Good advice: "Ja boet, yous got to findings someone who can like to put the structures in place. Then you must doings the happy faces to make all da oaks heppy. Ja it worked for me boet."

I accept that Erasmus is the most competent coach the Springboks had since 1992,    He is not a hero of mine at all.   I admire his competence  - nothing more,   After all he was not fired by anybody in his career or given an option to resign before b\being fired like White, Meyer and Coetzee - all three for aspects of gross incompetence,  Unlike those three - the fact is he was whilst in Ireland selected as the Coach of the Year in Guineess  Top 14  in 2017.   Comprehende?  

Of is jy nog steeds so toe soos 'n kleios se gat, 

Dragged every team he coached into mediocrity. Is bereft of ideas, is too afraid to take front line shots, buckles to politics and has no record of successful coaching. Everything that is successful that is associated with him stems directly from the Chief Crutch, Nienaber. He has dragged the Bok game into the stoneage. He is at best, just ahead of Snor, but behind Jake, Meyer, Mallett. 

Waaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha......sports under Rassie:

We withdraw from cricket because the balls are too hard.

Hockey is suspended after a school girl is hit on the shin

Boxing can only be conducted with concussion checks after each punch.

Hurdles are lowered to prevent risk

Heading bans on Under 10 school kids are extended to professionals.

The Boks never play Rugby again but claim to be permanent world champions

AO

If mediocracy entails winning of the Rugby Championship and  Rugby world Cup then I am all for it,   However, mediocracy is this case -  but real mediocracy was achieved under Meyer with  losses against Japan and an at home test against Argentina and Coetzee with the biggest losses ever against the All Blacks,   That is why they were effectively fired by SARU and their mediocracy wa confirmed by their clubs  when they were fired by their clubs for gross incompetence,

By the way I do not need falsified  stats to prove what I wrote  and you do,       

Actually I credit Pollard, Kolbe, the Beast and Vermeulen.....Rassie gets points for not listening to the fools who wanted to select Nkosi, the Deysel  twins, Coetzee,  Jantjies and Kitshoff.

But Rassie loses most of those points for not wanting to coach the team going forward and all the rest of the points  for the RC chicken run.

It certainly was the risk averse, kill joy, cowardly one...in a year we needed the Boks. I have nothing but contempt for the chicken run.

Momentum? One big game? Here's the thing: We know a bigger sample size will only expose Josè. Avoid playing and hang your hat on one big game of a year. 

That I’m afraid is what lies behind the chicken run....a fear that the whole Erasmus myth could be exposed. 

I have heard everything now from the too biggest rugby idiots ever.    Remember how they supported Meyer all the time and also the substandard squads he selected and the disastrous decline in rugby under him starting in 2014 and  how they supported Coetzee's appointment,

The moment Erasmus was appointed - Mozart and AO started their attacks on him and they continued despite the achievements of the Springboks under  Erasmus,   They lied about his career information and that was only the start,   They lied about his appointment  as Director of Rugby by SARU in 2018 and the agreement that he would undertake the coaching of the Springboks  until after the WC = when a new coaching set-up he would identify  would be appointed by SARU,  

They do not know what the role of the  Director of Rugby is and  pretended that they did not know that the Head Coach organizationally fell under him.    the two of them spend hours to try and find fault with Erasmus and some players in the Team - something they never did with the failed coaching  of Meyer and Coetzee and are too stupid to realize that two coaches fired by their club for gross incompetence was competent as Springbok coaches.    They even falsified  stats to di scredit the coach and the players concerned,

If it is not Erasmus  they attack it is the top players they hate,   For that purpose they dream up situations that was never really what happened and lied through their teeth about it.     These are two idiots that do not realize that their garbage are put on the internet and that many more people than the site members see how really desperately stupid they are,

"Remember how they supported Meyer all the time and also the substandard squads he selected and the disastrous decline in rugby under him starting in 2014 and  how they supported Coetzee's appointment"

Really? I don't remember that. I remember calling Meyer out for selecting Lambie, Goosen, Coetzee (I called him out well before anyone else), JJ, not selecting de Jongh for the World Cup, Steph, Reinach, not sticking to his gut feeling on player (that was where he did experience problems). The likes of Lambie, Goosen, Reinach et al never repaid his faith in them. When Alberts was injured we struggled to find a strong ball carrier; Steph and Coetzee failed as well as Lood. Unlike you and Rassie, I have a very balanced perspective of Meyer and stuck entirely to the facts. 

As per backing Coetzee's appointment? I did no such thing. I did in fact do direct comparisons between 2017 and 2018. You cried like a little baby when I did, because apparently 2012 to 2018 is more of a direct comparison than the year before Rassie took charge. You didn't like what it revealed: 2017 was better than 2018. 

Organhuffer for your own credibility sake stop trashing Rassie, one of South Africa's greatest ever coaches.

I take great credit for being possibly the first to start talking about him as a coach.

To accuse Rassie of a lack of courage is also absurd. 

What exactly has Rassie done in his entire coaching career of note? He was hailed as an ideas man, a great tactician. Where and when has this been evident? What successful component of his teams doesn't stem directly from Nienaber? Every team Rassie coaches ranks bottom for attack output. This has been the case for well over a decade. How shall I ignore this? He has regressed the Bok game and it now sits as an ugly model that has been surpassed even by tier 2 nations. Is that sustainable? Obviously not. Every team that gains physical parity makes the Boks look very, very ordinary. Even the minnows in the World Cup had long stretches where they made the Boks look one-dimensional, and when the Boks tried to open up ball-in-hand, handling errors and mistakes mounted rather quickly. Low efficiency. Tisk, Herr Sitzsack, best stick to politics where you make more credible contributions. 

Listen dimness of oy has not hot you in the face already it never will,   Nienaber never coached anything not taught to him by  Erasmus,   He was a physiotherapist - not a coach - when him and Erasmus became close friends many years ago and worked with Erasmus ever since,   What Nienaber  knows about coaching he learned from Erasmus - not the other way around.

You were caught lying about stats and the attack output story is unbelievable drivel dreamt up by you,   The rest of your contribution is equally distorted.     The sentence about his coaching is based on a lie and that is a fact.    Since 2006   Coached the Cheetahs for two years when they even beat the Bulls and drew with them.   He then coached the Stormers for two years before he became  the WP Director of  Rugby until 2012 and in that year he became SARU Director of Rugby.   In 2016 he became Munster Director of Rugby.   Only when the Munster coach suddenly died did Erasmus took over the coaching role  and he became the Guinness Top  Coach of the Year in 2017.   The Munster people called him the miracle man for what he achieved with their team.   So where did your last decade come from liar?

On attack the Springboks were  outstanding and effective and they beat the minnows  in the WC -

*     Namibia -  57-3  =  9 tries being scored;

*     Italy       -   49-3  =  7 tries being scored; and

*     Canada   -   66-7 =  10 tries being scored

So what did happen in the games against the minnows  that justify your obvious lies on the issue,   At least  the Springboks under Erasmus were not disgraced like happened in 2015 wen under Meyer they lost against Japan.  

Is low efficiency evidenced by the Springboks dismantling England in the WC final  beating them by 20 points,   

All I can add - Happy Liar and Idiots Day to you,     

Namibia: Significantly more handling errors than the Namibians. 

Italy: Considerably more handling errors than the overpowered Italians. Possession percentages for wings not great. 

Canada: More handling errors than the Canucks. Passing percentages were very low at centre, a little over 30%. More tractoring. 14 and 15 passing most. 

Japan: More handling errors than the Japanese despite the backs handling 66 less possessions.

Handling errors dreamed up by a total fool.  The one person who knocked on  a ball with an open tryline was Le Roux  against Wales,   His passing game was substandard as well - so if you wro te about him there was indeed a problem.    How come the Springboks got a lot more put-ins in the scrums than the opposition dimwit?  

Actually Rassie not competing at the RC comes from the same instincts that had him withdraw from the 2007 WC at the last moment.....leaving Jake in the lurch.This is not a man whose commitment you can count on.

Real rugby men wouldn’t be sitting at home with his WC team, while great rugby is being played for 6 weeks in Oz/NZ.....with zero health risk.

AO

By the way Meyer made shit selections from the date of his appointment and one of those were Morne Steyn.   Because Morne was disastrously poor in 2012 - he got rid of him that year,   Same happened in 2014  when he for the same reason got rid of Morne twice.   

Meyer did no world cup 2015 planning as to players.   He buggered up selections totally throughout his coaching period and his constant reversing his own selections without any pressure from anybody shows he was clueless about player performance evaluation,   Fact is he claimed in 2012 he made selection mistakes in 2012 because he picked in the main holdovers from the 2007 WC and the Bulls team on the basis of his selection of players he "was acquainted with",   

In 2015 he picked players who have not played rugby` for more than` a  year and the end result was he had in the WC squad of 31 players he had 8 unplayable passengers  in the squad,   When questioned  he stated that "I know what players I selected was capable of in the past".  He forgot when that past was and also the need for performance assessment in selection.   Performance was never a selection criterium in the case of Meyer.   That was why in the 2015 RWC squad there were 8 unplayable players.

Incidentally at Stade Francais Meyer was given a massive amount to contract new players  and what he got on contract was a disaster that caused the club to be on the brink of demotio n from the Top 14 and the main reason for his firing by the club.   

Meyer lost to the ABs by far fewer points at the WC than Erasmus....he just happened to encounter them in the semis as opposed to the pools. And that was a much more formidable AB team with McCaw, Nonu and Carter.

McCaw. Carter and Nonu was already over the hill in the 2015 WC and way past their best.   A lot op other AB's had the same  problem,     Meyer made one serious mistake in that semi  when he replaced De Jager with  Matfield - who f#cked up royally when he came on from the bench.    

A major contributor to the loss in the WC in 2019 to the All Blacks was the powder puff Mostert who was dropped  from the starting team of the Springboks for poor defense,  

In any event the 2019 Springbok would have beaten the  2015 Springboks by a cricket score.    The other reason for substandard performances  were the fact that Meyer nearly destroyed  players like Pollard and De Allende with his total backline coaching deficiency  and the only recovered the  top performances  they are known for in 2018 and 2019                  

Nonu over the hill.....nope.....he exploited Dud’s weak defence to run 20 metres in the Bok  22 and  send Barrett over for the winning try. 

McCaw was a brilliant big game player and Carter was a better defender, kicker and match tactician than Barrett.

Which of course is why Carter played flyhalf  in the WC but Barrett played fullback. You are clueless Dave.

Barrett is nothing compared to Carter and one of the chief culprits in this one dimensional All Black side. I have never met a Kiwi who thinks Barrett is better than Carter, must less to that extreme. But then, you are the same Kartoffelkopf who said Cooper was the best 10 in the world before the 2015 WC. How'd that work out? Another class act, like the best centre pairing in the world: Serfontein and Engelbrecht. You sure know how to pick 'em. 

This idiot cannot read plain English.   Carter by 2015 was not in his prime anymore and that was the reason both you and Mozart are such idiots.     By the way how van coaches who FAILED horribly on Club level be good enough to coach on test level?    You have always refused to answer that simple question - so why is that?  

You talk about others being stupid, but I would rather have had Cooper in any team than Morne Steyn - even on Club level a benchwarmer.     So what you said is your normal crazy twaddle.       

"By the way how van coaches who FAILED horribly on Club level be good enough to coach on test level?"

That's a very interesting question. Could you finally be learning something?

It seems to me that you never got the message insofar as Meyer is concerned.    Meyer was goen a huge budget to contract players and he f#cked up royally,    What he did achieve was to near to destroy Stade Francais as a team and they are bottom of the  Top 14 log,  He was suitably treated by the club ownership and  got fired with no future coaching jobs for him.   He is in the same boat as his predecessor De Villiers was,  

The next disgraceful coach was Coetzee - his Japanese club did not do as badly as Stade Francais, but was still a candidate for demotion.   That after the team was in the 4 top ratings in Japan for four years running, but Coetzee managed to take it down to 10th,   Another coach with no future in coaching anymore after he too was fired for gross incompetence.

The Springboks from  2008 to 2017 coached by three of the worst coaches ever and the result was a downward  slide to mediocrity,  Erasmus helped i n getting them to top of the world rankings,      

I  was anxious to see who will play in the ODI today - but the match was postponed until Sunday because one of the  Protea players tested  positive for Covid19.   The game is going to be played on Sunday.   Wonder which one of the players were involved,  

Let’s end this debate:

New Zealand won a successive World Cup after beating rivals Australia on Saturday