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AI World XVs . . .

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2025, 20:21
#41
30 Apr 2025, 20:21#41

Richie McCaw won it 3 times…..surely that makes him the greatest player ever…ne Draad? Off to the golf course….have fun.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Apr 2025, 20:27
#42
30 Apr 2025, 20:27#42

"Richie McCaw won it 3 times…..surely that makes him the greatest player ever…ne Draad? Off to the golf course….have fun."


Richie was a great player...not the greatest, but definitely not useless...and 3 POTY awards is a great achievement...Eben and Duane ...and Colby are deserved contenders who missed out unfortunately...doesn't mean those who won it didn't deserve it...

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Apr 2025, 21:25
#43
30 Apr 2025, 21:25#43

With three World Player of the Year titles to his name, Richie McCaw has a valid claim to being the greatest player of all time.


He'd captain my World XV in a heartbeat.


Richie on the openside, PSdT on the blindside and Zinzan at #8 . . . that is a loose trio for the ages.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Apr 2025, 21:49
#44
30 Apr 2025, 21:49#44

Nobody hates Rassie, Draad.


The lack of supreme and ultimate worship does not equate to hate.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2025, 22:04
#45
30 Apr 2025, 22:04#45

Plum don’t fucking lie about numbers - when did you or anyone provide me with numbers to back their bullshit - you are delusional


For the record are you stupid enough to believe that stats define a performance - do stats provide context huh?


We could see a players gain 70m in a game - fuck me that looks good on paper - does that tell you that 60 of those 70 was from an intercept with no defender to beat


What fucking numbers are you on about

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Apr 2025, 22:13
#46
30 Apr 2025, 22:13#46

"We could see a players gain 70m in a game - fuck me that looks good on paper - does that tell you that 60 of those 70 was from an intercept with no defender to beat"


Lol Dawid


It's called the law of averages...not the law of exceptions.


You're very bad at this.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2025, 22:18
#47
30 Apr 2025, 22:18#47

Richie McCaw would not come close to being the best openside ever, let alone best player ever


He was a good player not even a great one - same applies to Martin Johnson

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 May 2025, 04:22
#48
01 May 2025, 04:22#48

"Nobody hates Rassie, Draad.


The lack of supreme and ultimate worship does not equate to hate."


Moz stronly dislikes him, always has ... hate is a strong word, but it might be valid in this case...only he will know...and I criticize Rassie plenty, this nonsensesical contrarian BS is not debating, it's BS...you don't have to like his style, but he has a pretty impressive record as Bok coach over 7 years...there is no denying that...so the next best thing is downplaying it... denialism almost taken to insane extremes...WTAF?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2025, 05:22
#49
01 May 2025, 05:22#49

You criticize Erasmus….plenty? What, have I missed something.?


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 May 2025, 08:14
#50
01 May 2025, 08:14#50

You're so busy with your little pet hates, you miss plenty.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
01 May 2025, 08:53
#51
01 May 2025, 08:53#51

To much ice cream will make you fat:)



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MpowerPro5,061 posts
01 May 2025, 09:01
#52
01 May 2025, 09:01#52

Atleast deep seek have Habanna in the Backline….


Os is a legend. Joost another legend, but I would prefer Fourie du Preez.


Or atleast on the bench. Richie MCaw was a formidable rugby player.


Blondie has to definitely amp up his performances to ever reach MCaw status….:)


In my opinion Pieter is a better lock than a Blindside flanker.


The guy has a lot of heart and keeps at it the whole game, but his skills is better used at lock.


He played very well when he partnered Eben at lock.


Maybe it’s not the main job of a blindside to effect turnovers, but he should be able to compete.


I would select Pieter and Eben as my locks. With Roos at 6, Hanekom at 7 and Jasper Wiese at 8.


This way you have all the Impactful players starting.


But Kollisi prevents that from happening, because he is there to appease the Fat, Ugly and Corrupt politicians….



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2025, 14:22
#53
01 May 2025, 14:22#53

Give us some examples Drrrraaad…you have been mouthing off, back it up.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 May 2025, 17:15
#54
01 May 2025, 17:15#54

M you can forget about Wiese for this year.


He picked up a nasty injury in Japan.


Feel really sorry for him because he's been great since his very 1st game in green and gold. At least we're still a distance from the WC.


He was integral to the Boks for the tough year ahead. There are 4 very difficult games and I think he would have started all of them.


We take for granted home seamlessly he slotted in after Duane left.


Dave the guru calls him dumb muscle...can you imagine!!!???


MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
01 May 2025, 18:27
#55
01 May 2025, 18:27#55

Thanks plum. That’s a real blow as he is super strong and off course not dumb muscle:)


Will be interesting to see who starts at 8 for the Boks? Roos or Hanekom…


.I would go with Hanekom but Roos is playing more at 8 for the stormers.


I hope Rassie doesn’t start Kwagga at 8.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2025, 00:09
#56
03 May 2025, 00:09#56

I read Wiese is expected back sooner that first called. I’m sure I read that it could be July

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2025, 03:20
#57
03 May 2025, 03:20#57

Mozart


I will icve you just one example of why is such a valuable palyer for teh S pringboks and that is hy he was selected by an inenaional committee of experts to be the Plaer f the e yar in 2010 and 2024,


By the way Du Toit since he became a Springbok he scored 11 tries, and most of the from open field play - which yor prejudiced BS preferred not to see in matched - you yourself wrote on site you never see positives of players you dislike and generate BS about them by giving false descriptions as to what really happened in matches, To go further in his 127 matches as a Spingbok Matfied scored 7 tries in total - but he was better in that than Du Toit is. Du Tout in about his matches he palyed for the Springboks played at lock so get your story righ and stop spreading shit onm site. ,

You even in one classic claim that you idenify incdents which other experts overlooked - but those incdents never happened in the way you describe it. So lets get on with it asking from a rugby pespective ypu came up with continuous BS statements and stop making an utter fool of yourself,


.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2025, 03:56
#58
03 May 2025, 03:56#58

By the way Kwagga starting 20 times has scored 9 tries to Dud Toit’s 12 tries in 64 starts. Sorry to pop your bubble.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2025, 04:17
#59
03 May 2025, 04:17#59

That is where the braindead takes over, I wrorte t despel Ss spread by you and stted as fact on site, poke about tryscoring and I lust pointed out thigs nmcerning Du Toit and tht relates to Du Toit playing at both Lack and nmber 7 loosies, So now te BS spreader came in with his sandatrd BS about Kwagga specializing as a sub and playing at 6 or 7 fro, the ebench - soemthing ttally different from what you came up.with. You nviously is ttally confused again as to be expected from the BS yu normally spread om site,


Mya dvice to you is clear - stop being a prejudioced idiot and maybe you would learns something about rugby as a game.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2025, 04:23
#60
03 May 2025, 04:23#60

Dud Toit is very good at ‘lack’….lack of fetching, lack of offloads, lack of breaking tackles, lack of metres gained.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 May 2025, 09:08
#61
03 May 2025, 09:08#61

"By the way Kwagga starting 20 times has scored 9 tries to Dud Toit’s 12 tries in 64 starts. Sorry to pop your bubble."


He probably started against lesser opposition, seeing he's not the preferred starter...that would skew the stats...but you knew that, né?

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 May 2025, 10:09
#62
03 May 2025, 10:09#62

Kwagga lacks the grunt for 8 in my opinion. But by all means start him at 6 as that is his best position.


His contributions and skills when he comes on, is always full heartedly. More than what you can say for some starting as incumbents….

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2025, 13:08
#63
03 May 2025, 13:08#63

Kwagga is a great bench player - is a non entity as a starter


His lack of grunt becomes less obvious later in the game when the opposition have emptied their tank

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2025, 17:45
#64
03 May 2025, 17:45#64

He probably started against lesser opposition, seeing he's not the preferred starter...that would skew the stats...but you knew that, né?






Kwagga’s 9 test tries


NZ 3

Oz 3

Georgia 1

Italy1

Tonga1


Dud’s 12 test tries:


Argentina 4

Oz 2

Ireland 2

Wales 1

England1

Scotland 1

NZ 1


……


I suppose the Tonga and Georgia tries meet your objection. But the quality of the remaining tries is probably higher.


All I conclude is Kwagga is far more likely to score a try regardless of the opposition.








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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2025, 22:16
#65
03 May 2025, 22:16#65

Big difference between PSDT and Kwagga as players so comparing their try records smacks of rugby ignorance


One is a big lad tasked with carrying in traffic, the other a little 7’s hybrid with a licence to attack space


Its like comparing the try records of a wing and an inside centre

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2025, 00:36
#66
04 May 2025, 00:36#66

Obviously we shouldn’t be ranking forwards on tries scored only. However, if a player like Kwagga has a penchant for scoring tries it’s hardly a problem is it?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 May 2025, 08:35
#67
04 May 2025, 08:35#67

"I suppose the Tonga and Georgia tries meet your objection. But the quality of the remaining tries is probably higher.


All I conclude is Kwagga is far more likely to score a try regardless of the opposition.


I'm pleasantly surprised by the 3 vs NZ.

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