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All Black team to play the pumas,,,

Started by Monkey D Luffy10 REPLIES612 VIEWS· 15 Jul 2015, 16:39
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Jul 2015, 16:39
#1
15 Jul 2015, 16:39#1

All Blacks


1 t woodc0ck, 2 k mealamu, 3 o franks


4 l romano, 5 b retallick


6 j kaino, 7 R McCaw (c) 8 k read


9 tj perenara, 10 d carter


12 SBW, 13 m nonu


11 c piutau, 15 i dagg, 14 w naholo


Replacements: 16 Codie Taylor, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Nepo Laulala, 19 Jeremy Thrush, 20 Liam Messam, 21 Andy Ellis, 22 Colin Slade, 23 Ryan Crotty.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jul 2015, 16:43
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15 Jul 2015, 16:43#2
 Sasue 
I have already listed the team in the item posted for fantasy purposes.  There are the Test Rugby and Superbru competitions.  Superbru has two competitions - the Predictor one and the Fantasy Light one.   Why don't you join up?
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Jul 2015, 17:07
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15 Jul 2015, 17:07#3
from what ive been reading, hansen and co want to give as many newbies as much gametime as possible before the RWC while the number one priority still being to win all tests possible.

i really like this attitude from hansen, and this is what separates the All Blacks from the rest of the world.
we try to win every test we play, everyone else builds towards the overrated RWC.

i would have made a few changes in this All Blacks team though,,,

i wouldnt have played nonu at all, there can be no doubt in anyones mind that nonu and snake will be the midfeild combo when its time to take on the Boks and wallabies, so i would have played fekitoa at 13 instead.

where in the world is hika elliot??? reading into this AB selection, hika might not even make the RWC squad which is bonkers.
hooker has been for the last few years a serious issue of depth for us, sure we have the worlds most athletic hooker in coles, but the second hes out of the selection equation for any reason, were up poo creek without a paddle.
hikas form in the spXV has been one of the comeback stories of rugby and hes played magnificently for the chiefs, and IMO been the form hooker of the comp.
for me theres no doubt in my mind that hika is the All Blacks 2nd choice hooker.

i would have rested tj perenara too. we all know hes aaron smiths back up in the black jersey, so theres no need to play him at all IMO.
the gametime would have been better invested in t kerr barlow who needs as much gametime as possible too.
ellis provides the security on the bench, but if he barlow plays half as well as he did before that leg implosion in 2014, then hes the thrid halfback the All Blacks will and should take to eng.

i would have rested read as well and put messam at 6 and kaino at 8 with cane on the bench, that way both messam and cane get valuable gametime.
there can be little doubt that read, kaino and McCaw are our top loosies, so we could have gonme down a different path for the pumas
6 l messam, 7 R McCaw, 8 j kaino, 20 s cane

alternatively, they could have acheived the same results by moving king richie to 6 and start cane with messam on the bench,,,
6 R McCaw, 7 s cane, 8 j kaino, 20 l messam

both options would have achieved the much needed gametime results, while its core remains remains solid as a mofo.
is cane injured by any chance???

piutau is proven, but hes going to make way for savea when its time to face the Boks and wallys.

dagg is proven, but needs to make a mark, cos ben smith is the incumbent 15 easy peasy.

its going to be interesting to see how hansen incorporates barret into the All Blacks, i would say surley hes got to be in the 15, but slade and carter could leave him out of the All Blacks top 15.
i wonder whats the chances of both slade and barret being on the bench in the All Blacks top team, a top team which needs to have carter at 10.

still cant fault this team and lets hope the All Blacks click this week.
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
15 Jul 2015, 17:07
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15 Jul 2015, 17:07#4
 Seems Hansen is gonna give gametime and chances to as many players as possible before the RWC. The right choice without doubt but then, why start with Mealamu in both last week's and now this game? I would have started both with H. Elliot.

And while the pack looks very similar to the incunbent, the backline is quite different. Very interesting to see what they can offer, it looks strong and dangerous.
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Jul 2015, 17:10
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15 Jul 2015, 17:10#5
will do mikey,

not sure about the superbru ones though??? but ill make my teams on friday,
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WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Jul 2015, 23:28
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15 Jul 2015, 23:28#6
 Guys what about Naholo getting his first cap ? now theres proof that Hansen has his eye on emerging talent with form to match .Too true guys about hooker ,Hika needs to be in the mix and TKB needs time on the paddock [ I didnt reaize he was back ]What about Weber as #3 backup for Smith ?
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
16 Jul 2015, 10:00
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16 Jul 2015, 10:00#7

...NZ Maori vs Baa Baas this weekend also serving as a virtual AB trial for some players like...  Corey Jane, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Moala , Ngatai...looking like an awesome weekend of sport...Warriors also in the top 4 playing away against the Roosters so looking forward to that as well...


AT A GLANCE

New Zealand Maori: Damian McKenzie, Rieko Ioane, Sean Wainui, Charlie Ngatai (c), Matt Proctor, Marty McKenzie, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Elliot Dixon, Mitchell Crosswell, Blade Thomson, Hayden Triggs, Joe Wheeler, Brendon Edmonds, Ash Dixon, Joe Moody Reserves: Quentin MacDonald, Joe Royal, Marcel Renata, Akira Ioane, Joe Edwards, Brad Weber, Otere Black, Codey Rei


Barbarians: Andrew Horrell, Cory Jane, Seta Tamanivalu, George Moala, Patrick Osborne, Tom Taylor, Mitchell Drummond, Luke Whitelock, Blake Gibson, Brad Shields (c), Dominic Bird, Alex Ainley, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Liam Coltman, Mitchell Graham Reserves: James Parsons, Reg Goodes, Ben Tameifuna, Mark Reddish, Jordan Taufua, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Ihaia West, Richard Buckman



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Jul 2015, 19:37
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16 Jul 2015, 19:37#8
 1 t woodc0ck, 2 k mealamu, 3 o franks


4 l romano, 5 b retallick


6 j kaino, 7 R McCaw (c) 8 k read


9 tj perenara, 10 d carter


12 SBW, 13 m nonu


11 c piutau, 15 i dagg, 14 w naholo


Replacements: 16 Codie Taylor, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Nepo Laulala, 19 Jeremy Thrush, 20 Liam Messam, 21 Andy Ellis, 22 Colin Slade, 23 Ryan Crotty.


Are these guys really test standard one has to ask!!! There are others who are also doubtful but lets not get our kbb friends too depressed!

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WardadPro6,663 posts
16 Jul 2015, 23:48
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16 Jul 2015, 23:48#9
 Ask your boks if they are ,after all they have watched them carting off the silverware time and again .Ask Smitty about how it felt when Dagg crashed his wee 100 match party and made him sad.....
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
17 Jul 2015, 01:56
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17 Jul 2015, 01:56#10
@warhammer,

dont know why smit would be sad, nonu gave him a rugby boot as a present,
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2015, 03:45
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17 Jul 2015, 03:45#11
 I do not think that Hansen would play around with the team next week in Johannesburg -he will select the best players available and some players will miss out.  Next weeks team will look vastly different - I believe:-
15  Ben Smith, 14 Waisake Naholo/Nene Milner-Skudder, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11  Julian Savea, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Ritchie McCaw, 6  Jerome Kaino, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3  ????, 2 Dane Coles, 1 ????
It does not really matter which props Hansen selects - they are all bad news for different reasons.   One player he should forget about as a prop is  Wyatt Crockett.  He will be penalized continuously for illegal scrumming - so he could be a match-loser all on his own. 
Listen to Mike the wise - he ha s it spot-on in this case.   
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