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All Blacks arrive in Johannesburg for Ellis Park blockbuster against Springboks; RICHARD KNOWLER

Started by Just_win8 REPLIES393 VIEWS· 20 Jul 2015, 07:48
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2015, 07:48
#1
20 Jul 2015, 07:48#1

The chance to scrutinise the new faces in the All Blacks squad may have been too tempting for the Springboks when the two teams boarded a flight together to South Africa last Sunday.

The All Blacks may be two tests deep into their season, but the mystery around who will play the Springboks at Johannesburg's Ellis Park on Sunday morning (NZ time) remains.

By omitting Dan Carter and Sonny Bill Williams, coach Steve Hansen must field a new playmaker in either Beauden Barrett, Colin Slade and Lima Sopoaga, as well as his third midfield combination.

The inclusion of the uncapped Sopoaga is intriguing. Is he there as an emergency back-up in case Barrett or Slade fall over, or will Hansen be keen to blood him? The decision to carry lock James Broadhurst also suggests he could be required in some capacity, perhaps off the bench.

No wonder, then, that when half the Springboks squad - who joined the All Blacks in their flight to from Sydney to Johannesburg after their 24-20 loss to the Wallabies in Brisbane - scrutinised how the new men measured-up in their All Blacks' travelling gear, they, like everyone else, were wondering what surprises Hansen has in store.

After the All Blacks' 39-18 win over Argentina last weekend, Hansen reinforced the importance of assessing versatile players before the World Cup. The selectors must be bold, he emphasised.

"We have got to get combinations, we have got to get versatility as well because you can't replace players in the World Cup [if they get injured] and use them again," Hansen stated. "Once you replace them they are gone."

This is a delicate balancing act.

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With just three matches left to assess his cattle, he may be tempted to start Barrett at first five-eighth and list Slade on the bench at Ellis Park. Both can cover fullback and Slade, as he proved when he replaced Waisake Naholo last weekend, is also efficient on the wing.

This would also allow the All Blacks to favour the policy of having two playmakers on the paddock in the second half.

This ploy worked well in the tour finale against Wales last year when Barrett dropped back to fullback - Ben Smith transferred to the right wing - to allow Slade to run at first-five later and play a crucial role in guiding them home.

Israel Dagg's impressive outing against Argentina may lock him into the fullback role again, with Ben Smith starting on the right wing.

Pairing Ma'a Nonu and Conrad Smith in the midfield would provide leadership and counterbalance the absence of veteran Carter.

Between them Nonu and Smith have played 180 tests, an intimidating figure that dwarfs the five caps earned by Springboks midfielders Damian de Allende and Jesse Kriel, and they would also be familiar with the play of Barrett, a fellow Hurricane, if he were to start.

The power and fury of Williams and Nonu in the midfield was impressive against Argentina and Conrad Smith made encouraging noises about the depth in the overall 41-man squad.

"You could probably pick four or five guys and they would always go pretty well. Obviously the two [Williams and Nonu] did a good job," Smith said after a police escort rushed the team bus to their hotel. "It is what we expect every time we play."

The high-revved game plan, involving players releasing passes in the tackle, will be encouraged but not at any cost.

"It makes us difficult to break us down if we can offload in the contact or there or there abouts, we will keep using it," Hansen said. "We have just got to get better at when."

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2015, 07:59
#2
20 Jul 2015, 07:59#2
Hansen will put in a mix of the usual first-team starters to start with & then bring in a strong bench. I think the ABs need to get control of the game early to try & get the crowd out of it. This means starting strong. Coles needs some game time & Kev has had some so maybe Coles to start. If kev needs a break they may have Cody backup Coles but my money is on Kev.

Props, I would go with woody & Franks to start. Nepo & Crocket on the bench.
Locks: Brodie and Whitelock to start but for sure we need the brute force of Romano coming off the bench. I would go with Barrett & A. Smith to start & No nu & C. Smith 12 & 13  but for sure Hansen will want to see Fekitoa for at least 20 mins maybe as much as 30. Dagg at 15, B. Smith & Savea on wings with Charles coming in & maybe Dagg off & B.Smith switching to full back. Somehow Hansen will want to give Slade some game time so that will have to factor in.

In short all choices look good it will be a matter of balancing the goals of getting players playing time, testing newer players under tough conditions & wining the game.

MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
20 Jul 2015, 08:07
#3
20 Jul 2015, 08:07#3
 Hey JW, can we please borrow a couple of your players bro? Promise not to break them, it's just, well, just, we don't have sh*t. Maybe when Conrad is all old and not good enough for AB's anymore maybe we can loan him and inject into the Boks bro?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2015, 08:49
#4
20 Jul 2015, 08:49#4
Ha ha MonsterBok; hard to understand how SA doesn't have more top draw players. In part it's because of poor player management and a rugby culture that reinforces brute rather than brain. 
The mediocre skill level, e.g. passing and catching the ball in the forwards, is a result of this not being emphasised and the players selected are one dimensional (Etzebeth is the exception that should be the rule). I think things are changing but it will take a while to see in the Boks. 
What's your experience as a coach tell you? 

Anyway the margin between the top teams is not so great so Boks can still win. We will see how it goes this weekend.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 09:14
#5
20 Jul 2015, 09:14#5
Under clueless Meyer we are going to get thumped against the AB's.....watch this space....I predict the return of useless Morne.
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
20 Jul 2015, 09:26
#6
20 Jul 2015, 09:26#6
Good thinking by Hansen. Resting SBW and Carter against the minnows and playing an experimental team in Johannesburg . This is something the ABs might have done against Argentina in the past but considering recent results it makes sense to experiment against the feeble Springboks. Hope you Yarpies have stocked up on lube!!!!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 09:34
#7
20 Jul 2015, 09:34#7
 Ka Mate go fuck yourself 
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
20 Jul 2015, 14:32
#8
20 Jul 2015, 14:32#8
 lol, ka mate, 

I think we'll see more than one changes in the front row. Coles is a must but Crockett could also be btwin the starters.
The flyhalf is the other incognita. Barret has the advantage of forming an almost-all canes backline but Slade could also be named in that position.
IMO the most probable XV agaist the boks will be:

1. Crockett   2. Coles    3. O. Franks

4. Retallick   5. S. Whitelock

6. Kaino       7. McCaw    8. Read

9. A. Smith   10. B. Barret

12. Nonu       13. C. Smith

11. J. Savea   14. B. Smith    15. I. Dagg


16. Mealamu   17. Wodc0ck   18. N. Laulala   19. J. Broadhurst  
20. Messam/Vito   21. TJ Perenara   22. C. Slade   23. Feikitoa
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2015, 14:44
#9
20 Jul 2015, 14:44#9
 Barret plays well against the Boks. Nobrainer.
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