All Blacks Suspended for Drug Cheating

Or this..... Warren Gatland, the Lions head coach, has admitted he was “embarrassed” to be a New Zealander after the “arrogant” behaviour of All Blacks supporters and sections of their media when Steve Hansen’s side set a record of Test victories with their win over Australia.

Or this.... "Rugby star Aaron Smith has a girlfriend back home, but he's been caught with his pants down after an incident in a toilet," was the story's intro as the lurid events of the disabled toilet incident quickly shot to among the most read stories on the site.

Mozart, isn't your post supposed to be on the other thread?
Anyway, Gatland is j ust stirring the pot ahead of the Lions tour.

Or this...... ...... New Zealand Prime Minister John Key is being called a “playground bully” after a waitress claimed that he repeatedly pulled her hair during visits to the cafe where she worked. It is only the latest controversy for Key, who has previously come under fire for gaffes ranging from joking about cannibalism to “mincing” on a catwalk. But #tailgate (the Internet can never resist a terrible pun) might be the most bizarre yet.

 Seems us 'yarpys', US based or otherwise, are not alone in our penchant for a good omelette.

I never pull the waitresses pony tail when I order my eggs Moz.
The pony tail incident was ages ago, you had to dig deep for that one

And then there is NZ's dirty dairy industry. 'Massive evidence' of dirty dairying Meanwhile, Greenpeace says it is time the dairy industry stopped denying intensive dairy farming causes water pollution - and did something about it. Twelve complaints were made to the Advertising Standards Authority about a Greenpeace advertisement drawing attention to the impact of dairying on water quality. The complaints were made on the grounds the advertisement was misleading to put all the blame for polluted waterways on dairying. Greenpeace argued that the impact of dairying on water quality was widely documented. The authority rejected all 12 complaints. Greenpeace's executive director, Russel Norman, said 60 percent of monitored rivers were unswimmable. There was "massive evidence" dairying polluted waterways, he said. The industry should do something to protect New Zealand rivers, lakes and aquifers rather than denying it, he said.

 And apparently you chaps have all sorts body issues of an embarrassing nature which are only now being addressed 'Dr Christian, Dr Pixie and Dr Dawn have changed the lives of hundred of patients. They’ve encouraged the nation to come forward and bare all, and have sorted out all sorts of cringe-inducing conditions from shocking skin problems to the most eye-watering ailments. The patients managed to overcome their embarrassment to seek out help the first time around, and the doctors are inviting them back again for a final check up to see if their embarrass' There is a rich treasure trove of NZ embarrassment to tap into......the egg flows.

Mozart trying to divert attention but failing . The focus should be on the egg on the faces of the SA posters with respect to this topic.
JW being helpful as usual

 Yup Mozart if he was guilty out he goes ,but hes not and now we can see cant we ? We can see who has egg on their mugs and its not me matey so prance I shall .No double speaking " oh hes proven not guilty but that desnt mean hes innocent " semantics thanks.Just some eggs.For you and beandork and anyone else who vented their schadenfreude at an AB supposedly being taken down along with his team.And your still trying to take the gloss off our boys ,seems like envy to me .

Sure it's you pal.....you said: "if he is guilty out he goes". That sure doesn't sound like a lot of conviction that he was innocent. But perhaps you can find words of strong support in what you wrote....have at it.

Reminds me a bit of Pierre Spies, who incidentally was never the same after his mysterious departure from WC2007. It will be interesting to see if the testing authority have any further comment. My own guess is rugby is no different from athletics and cycling which regularly produce steroid offenders. Just looking at the English rugby team, for example, the muscles are so 'poppy' it has to be suspicious. And the fact that Armstrong went for decades as a serial offender, while being regularly exonerated by testing....doesn't give one a lot of faith.

  One comment on the l'Equipe website said of Tuipulotu, "The only one? Don't make me die from laughing."
And there was much more in the same vein, if you will pardon the expression: "Le debut d'une longue liste" – the start of a long list; "Les Blacks c'est les Russes du Rugby" – the Blacks are the Russians of rugby; "C'est pas un mystere que les Neo-Z charges commes les mules" – it is no secret that the New Zealanders are laden like mules.
Face it oaks it's all a nz stich up. Consider their bent refs. Consider their PM donating 13.9 million dollars to the corrupt Clinton Foundation using taxpayers money!! Is there anything about the kbbs that is not contaminated by criminality?
That's why I always make much of honest Justin Marshall hoping these crooked kiwis would adopt him as a role model.
The nz Super teams and wee abs must be tested after each match. We have  to root out this nz drugging oak s for the sake of the noble game of which the ignoble kbbs are a part.

 JW your post was very funny in a bent sort of way. Kbbs do bent very well

Well since every Saffa is making sh!t up here is mine as you obviously dont need anything that pass's as an actual fact on this site.
It was a bitter and twisted little beeno that broke in to the lab and contaminated the A sample but since beeno lacks a brain he didn't take into account the B sample.
All this was funded by SARU as an attempt to get within a million miles of the All Blacks but failed miserably just like SA does not matter what they turn their crooked grubby little fingers to.

 I have no time for drug cheats hence if hes gulity out he goes ,same for anyone .The ABs are hardly steroidal looking rage monsters now are they ?

 What a mess of a thread. So much irrationality. Must be the witch doctors influence.

 "The Salt Lake City-based Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory has promised to investigate the flawed process which resulted in a positive A sample and negative B sample, but Tuipulotu, in facing the media for the first time this morning before joining his teammates on the training pitch, appeared keen to put it all behind him."

The return of a false positive is not unusual. Investigating the causes is mandatory. No promises are required since it must be done any way and part of their job.

The way the information was leaked out before the protocol was completed, on the other hand, is what they must give an answer to.

 And the fact that Armstrong went for decades as a serial offender, while being regularly exonerated by testing....doesn't give one a lot of faith.

Armstrong was an opportunity for business. He was a seller on the NA market.
He was tested positive in his early years of glory, he was not exonerated by testing.
He was exonerated for what he represented.
He built up over $100 M thanks to his drug addiction and cheating attitude(to be compared to the sums SA corruption involves and how the removal of corruption in SA is claimed to save the country)
Of course, people around him made more.
Armstrong was brought down when it appeared that the suspicion on doping was killing the sporting event he made so much money from.

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Well since every Saffa is making sh!t up here is mine as you obviously dont need anything that pass's as an actual fact on this site.
It was a bitter and twisted little beeno that broke in to the lab and contaminated the A sample but since beeno lacks a brain he didn't take into account the B sample.
All this was funded by SARU as an attempt to get within a million miles of the All Blacks but failed miserably just like SA does not matter what they turn their crooked grubby little fingers to.


It was all good and fair until you overplayed your hand and exposed your deep resentment of SAffas. Are you the NZ version of Beeno?

Armstrong tested positive in 99, set aside because he was taking a prescription cream for saddlle sores.......sound familiar? Then they became more sophisticated using saline and avoiding unscheduled testing by changing travel schedules. Finally they found a useful trick: 'Ferrari discovered that when regular, if small, doses of EPO were injected directly into veins rather than under the skin, Armstrong and others could continue using the hormone without fear of a positive test result, the report said.' All of which led to a total mockery of the drug testing system, which tested Armstrong over 200 times. The lesson of all this is that drug testing hardly exonerates the athlete....nor does a positive necessarily indicate intent.

 I'd suggest it might, how many times has an athletic tested negative on a B sample after a positive A sample, almost never remember the B sample is taken from the same batch of urine and is tested in front of an independent observer. After a positive A sample the burden of proof of innocence falls to the athlete, Tuipolotu and his legal team have done a great job in getting him completely exonerated.

 You nailed it poi-e!

Unfortunately, I for one think that many of the top sports folk are getting chemical assistance. 
One reason is to raise their game and another reason is to keep pace with the other juicers who are using.
Taking drugs is a way of life in the world today and some sportsman/women will take a chance because of the money they stand to make.
So in closing, I think the only sport that is clean is "Bodybuilding".
Enjoy the weekend rugby and watch out for needles when walking on the pitch.
Cheers.

Why is the Dan Carter case still ongoing? How long does it take to do a B sample?
It is suspicious that so many All Blacks have been failing the A test- when no others of note have done so recently., 
Doping Dan's ongoing investigation

I would suggest that if you have financial (support like Dan is reported to have), you can hire the best legal minds and appeal until the cows come home.
Once lawyers get involved it is delay after delay. The MO is to drag the process out for as long as possible, obstructing and appealing the case to death.
The longer they are able to drag this out the more money they will collect.
The bottom line is the truth never concerns them.

 I thought the situation with Carter was he had permission to take the meds / drugs he was on but don't let that stop a good rant

 "The ABs are hardly steroidal looking rage monsters now are they ?"
@Wardad
Looking at them man for man one would have to say that Abs are the least roid looking team on the  circuit. Certainly not when compared with Oz, England and the Boks. Then again, wearing black does take off a few pounds.  

 Indeed it is flattering Mr Plum ! Bok Green may make some chaps look err "Hulkish "but thats just the Boer farmer geneology maybe ? but that unflattering white the poms wear doesnt hide the rather roid bulgy look they have .Maybe explains Dylan Hartlys behaviour and the poms sudden rise from not getting out of the pool stages to sudden world beaters ?Nah just conjecture .

 "Are you the NZ version of Beeno"?Draad it's light against darkness. so please make that distinction when comparing the esteemed Beeno to that foul old crustie crusader fan. A rare kudo for the oft very confused and maniacal warped DUD when he says he wants all drug cheats busted or words to that effect. I am clearly having a good influence on poor warped DUD.
The nz oaks are up to every trick, many of which are illegal, in an attempt to win at rugby. World rugby fans watch on in amusement at the going on in nz. hahahhahahahaCloudy's dislike of the honorable Justin Marshall makes my case once again. 
As for JW well he should change from Justwin to Justin. Turn over a new leaf JW and come walk in the light! Hahahhah ahhahahahahahahaha

Please excuse my oversized font...My phone does it for some reason.
There's a lot to rugby that the average fan doesn't see I think. Most sports hav e had their skeletons dragged out of the closet but rugby has remained largely unscathed over the years. At some point rugby's dirty secrets will come out though. I for one refuse to believe that rugby is somehow the blue eyed boy of international sport. There are humans involved in it after all.

Questions have to be raised why New Zealand players only fail drug tests outside of New Zealand .

 The title is still on?

Not only the one All Blacks involved was not suspended, was involved on irregular grounds but now he is cleared.

The title was not meant to be in the first place. Right now, due to the story unfolding, it is an offense to any rational person.

 

Tell us, Traditionalist, how do you change the title of a thread?
Come on then clever clogs, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know.

 Rooi, best of luck getting a lucid answ er from T.

 Questions have to be raised why New Zealand players only fail drug tests outside of New Zealand.Sharkbok the change i n avatar is doing you good!!

 

Tell us, Traditionalist, how do you change the title of a thread?

Come on then clever clogs, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know.


Usually, forums reserve a priviledge of edition to the author.

Now, if, on this board, this priviledge does not exist or is limited in time, it serves as a testing ground for excellent men living in SA.

Excellent men act without sizing consequences. This explains why they are burdened with so many consequences of actions they cant reverse.

Threads like this one show excellent men from SA have not yet learned their lesson, despite the heavy record of their country. They keep acting even when they know they cant reverse their actions.

The excellent editor men forgot to provide the option to edit the headline. 

"Usually, forums reserve a priviledge of edition to the author.

Now, if, on this board, this priviledge does not exist or is limited in time, it serves as a testing ground for excellent men living in SA.

Excellent men act without sizing consequences. This explains why they are burdened with so many consequences of actions they cant reverse.

Threads like this one show excellent men from SA have not yet learned their lesson, despite the heavy record of their country. They keep acting even when they know they cant reverse their actions."

Listen, chump spare me your unintelligible drivel and try to understand the question . . . or at least get an adult to help you with the words you don't understand.

You expressed your usual faux outrage when Sharkbok didn't edit his heading. My question to you was a simple one . . . how was he supposed to edit it?

Now either answer the question or else admit that it was a very stupid statement which made you look like a fool again.

Clear? Good . . . go on then . . .

 Rooitwit shouldn' t be so hard on poor Trad. Trad makes ou rooitwit look good. hahhahahahahahha