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Started by Brycy21 REPLIES671 VIEWS· 20 Aug 2015, 19:36
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
20 Aug 2015, 19:36
#1
20 Aug 2015, 19:36#1
..today sometime ...simply cannot believe as commentators are suggesting that the Aussies will leave out the classy Christian Lealiifano in favour of QC...that would be really dopey..
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
20 Aug 2015, 19:42
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20 Aug 2015, 19:42#2
The best you can hope for is that the All Blacks will pick QC. He was their best player last weekend after all.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Aug 2015, 19:43
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20 Aug 2015, 19:43#3
The Quaalude is a built in time bomb if named in the squad  
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Aug 2015, 21:05
#4
20 Aug 2015, 21:05#4
 He's a hot & cold player so you never know, if he get's luck he could be the catalyst that defeat good teams.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Aug 2015, 21:45
#5
20 Aug 2015, 21:45#5
Cooper is pure class.....only conservative fools turns their ignorant noses up at what he has to offer.
Useless Meyer would not select him.......Oz and NZ would 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Aug 2015, 22:57
#6
20 Aug 2015, 22:57#6
Dave loves the Quaalude, I rest my case.  
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sharkbokCaptain23,282 posts
20 Aug 2015, 23:03
#7
20 Aug 2015, 23:03#7
He is a quality player, but probably does not play as well these days as he did 4 years ago.
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ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
21 Aug 2015, 00:10
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21 Aug 2015, 00:10#8
 He will be in the squad. Cheika more or less said so before Eden Park. I don't believe you can take the level of inconsistency he shows into a big game and expect to do well. Look forward to seeing the squad. Hoping for a few bolters.
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MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
21 Aug 2015, 03:18
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21 Aug 2015, 03:18#9
 The 31-man Wallabies squad named on Friday for the Rugby World Cup:-

Backs: Israel Folau, Adam Ashley-Cooper (vice-capt), Rob Horne, Drew Mitchell, Henry Speight, Joe Tomane, Tevita Kuridrani, Kurtley Beale, Matt Giteau, Matt Toomua, Quade Cooper, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Nick Phipps.



Forwards: Wycliff Palu, David Pocock, Michael Hooper (vice-capt), Ben McCalman, Sean McMahon, Scott Fardy, Kane Douglas, Dean Mumm, Rob Simmons, Will Skelton, Stephen Moore, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Greg Holmes, Sekope Kepu, Scott Sio, James Slipper, Toby Smith.

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ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
21 Aug 2015, 05:06
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21 Aug 2015, 05:06#10
 I thought White would miss out. Felt Eden park was his final audition. Still showing faith in Quade. Giteau will have a busy world cup.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Aug 2015, 08:57
#11
21 Aug 2015, 08:57#11
 Related article:
HORWILL AND WHITE GET WORLD CUP AXE

Veteran lock James Horwill and scrumhalf Nic White were the big omissions Friday as southern hemisphere champions Australia named their 31-man squad to tackle a challenging group at next month's Rugby World Cup.

Horwill captained the Wallabies at the last World Cup in New Zealand but was a high-profile casualty with Kane Douglas returning as one of four second-rowers in the line-up, alongside Dean Mumm, Rob Simmons and Will Skelton.

Coach Michael Cheika phoned Horwill on Thursday to break the news and have what he called "a very difficult conversation".

"In credit to James, and to the other players who missed out, his response was brilliant, even feeling for me making that quite difficult call," he said.

Cheika also overlooked scrumhalf White, despite his match-winning performance in the Wallabies' Bledisloe Cup Test victory against the All Blacks in Sydney this month.

He instead went with just two specialist scrumhalves in Nick Phipps and Will Genia, with experienced utility Matt Giteau as back-up. 

Cheika also opted to go with only two specialist hookers in Stephen Moore and Tatafu Polota-Nau, while keeping faith with mercurial flyhalf Quade Cooper despite an off-key performance in last week's 13-41 loss to New Zealand in Auckland.

Prop Toby Smith and flank Sean McMahon were surprise inclusions, despite not featuring during the 2015 international season so far, in a squad led by Moore and comprising 17 forwards and 14 backs for the tournament in England from September 18 to October 31. 

"We've become a really tight group and it was a very difficult process in picking only 31 players, but I know each player selected will travel to England with the full support of those teammates who won't board the flight," said Cheika.

"Our primary focus throughout the Super Rugby competition, the Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup was to select a balanced squad between youth, experience and form and this squad certainly delivers on this.

"It's also important that we select a squad that will handle the tournament play and our draw in particular at the World Cup, as well as maintain a strong competition for places in the team."

He added that the goal was to bring the World Cup back to Australia.

"It's very clear we are not going into the World Cup as the world's best but the goal is to leave as the world's best," he said.

The Wallabies, who are in a tough World Cup Group A which includes hosts England and Wales, head to the United States of America for a training camp pre-tournament and a final warm-up Test against the USA in Chicago on September 5.

They open their World Cup campaign against Fiji in Cardiff on September 23 before tackling Uruguay, Wales and England and must finish in the top two to qualify for the quarterfinals. 

Moore said being appointed captain was "a huge opportunity and a big honour" and he was relishing the task ahead.

"The World Cup is the pinnacle of our game. Fiji are looking good so we'll have to be on our game right from the start," he added.

"You do definitely [dream of winning the World Cup] that's the goal obviously."

Australia squad:Forwards: Wycliff Palu, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Ben McCalman, Sean McMahon, Scott Fardy, Kane Douglas, Dean Mumm, Rob Simmons, Will Skelton, Stephen Moore (captain), Tatafu Polota-Nau, Greg Holmes, Sekope Kepu, Scott Sio, James Slipper, Toby Smith

Backs: Israel Folau, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Rob Horne, Drew Mitchell, Henry Speight, Joe Tomane, Tevita Kuridrani, Kurtley Beale, Matt Giteau, Matt Toomua, Quade Cooper, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Nick Phipps

AFP

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Aug 2015, 09:11
#12
21 Aug 2015, 09:11#12
Interesting that Cheika went with just two specialist scrumhalves in Nick Phipps and Will Genia, with experienced utility Matt Giteau as back-up. 
Hansen has talked of doing the same with Slade as the back-up. Maybe we will see similar approaches to specialist locks.  All this points to the "luck aspect" of the RWC, i.e. in this case if you get a string of injuries at a key position you are in really bad shape. Covering with specialist positions with generalists means there is a drop of f in performance. 
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ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
21 Aug 2015, 09:23
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21 Aug 2015, 09:23#13
 I had the feeling White was out of favor for a while and the same with Horwill. which made some of the Eden Park selections a mystery to me. Anyway that is all water under the bridge now, all be it murky water. I really have no Idea what Cheika is thinking at the moment. Genia's form has been ordinary for a while and Quade hasn't had any. You would have to think Cheika has his squad picked a while ago and has stuck with it. Happy to see McMahon in the mix. I think we can assemble a good team from that squad but good enough? Will come down to match day selections. I have pretty much given up trying to guess what Cheika will do so will just leave it to him and go with the flow.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
21 Aug 2015, 09:54
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21 Aug 2015, 09:54#14

 ...White and Leiliafano ,the Brumbies halves instrumental in the win against the ABs axed by the Tahs coach in favour of the Reds halves QC and Genia...classic case of shooting yrself in the foot...defies logic as does taking so many outside backs...



                   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Aug 2015, 10:16
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21 Aug 2015, 10:16#15
 Brycy for once I have to agree with you. Its as bad as sticking with mcaaaw!!! However none of this is as nearly bad as sticking with wee victor!!
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
21 Aug 2015, 12:41
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21 Aug 2015, 12:41#16
 IMO some very bad choices from Cheika,........
firstly, to bring just 2 hookers. If your first choice hooker is far better than the second, as it is the case, it's very risky. If Moore gets a minor injury, an injury that impedes him of playing one week for example, Cheika has to change him because he can not play with only TPN as hooker, he has to have another hooker on the bench. And if he change Moore (he can not change another player, Cooper for example, to bring another hooker and retain Moore in the squad, he has to change the injured player) he looses him, his best hooker and captain, for the rest of the tournament. Very risky.

Having Gitteau in the squad who can cover the scrumie lets Cheika bring just 2 scrumies without being so risky. If the first scrumie gets injured Gitteau will have to be on the bench with the 21 covering the other scrumie. This is quite acceptable since he would have to play for 10-15 min. max as scrumie.
But the 2 scrumies choosen are out of form. Genia wasn't playing well before his injury so it's very improbable that he gets the form while sidelined. Phipps played crap against the AB in Sidney.

Moore as captain is another bad choice IMO. A captain has to have the most calm head of the whole team. McCaw is the most calmed as JdV is. Moore is exactly the opposite, he was the most excited player on the field in both matches against the AB. His constant complainings ended up irritating the refs.

To include Cooper in a 31 squad is one of the worst errors Cheika could have made. He's a liability in defense and disrupts the whole defensive structure of the team. He can be very easily targeted as he was in the last match against the AB.

And lastly kurindrani is the only powerful center that can crash the oposite defense and be used against the rushing defenses. I would have brought Samu Kerevi instead of Cooper as Foley, Toomua and Gitteau can cover the 10.




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Aug 2015, 13:53
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21 Aug 2015, 13:53#17
 Thanks ab ass your comments have been noted by????
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
21 Aug 2015, 20:19
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21 Aug 2015, 20:19#18

...Yup AB I'm sure all the other participants in pool A will have a wry smile on their faces after seeing who they're now facing...

..probably be in their best interest if a few of the Aussie players actually do get injured as they have left some of their best players at home...both QC and Genia are injury prone so the Brumby halves may get a shot yet..


..I see also that Will Genia revealed that he sent a text message to Nic White admitting his game has been sh!t and saying he felt really embarrassed to be picked ahead of him for the Rugby World Cup....probably just gloating  that he got picked..




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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Aug 2015, 10:27
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22 Aug 2015, 10:27#19
 Strange that White did not make it....he must be so pissed off. Where is Higgenbottom is he injured as he should have walked it as well.....what about Speight and O'C onnor 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Aug 2015, 10:47
#20
22 Aug 2015, 10:47#20
 
Speight is in.

Stunned that the talented O'Connor didn't make it ... yet Drew Mitchel did?

Not a Cooper fan at all.

His fancy flippy flippy passing is more a liability than anything else. He's a poor defender and isn't as versatile as Lealifano, who who I think can feel hard done by.

Horwill goes through spells of ill discipline. No loss if you ask me.

Palu is a little injury prone ... Higginbotham would have been a better option as he can play on the side of the scrum as well.

Whatever happened to Digby Ioane?





 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Aug 2015, 11:13
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22 Aug 2015, 11:13#21
Digby is playing up here somewhere I think.
I love Cooper, my kind of player....love those touches.
I can't believe Higgenbottom has not made it....he is by far their best loosie outside of Hooper and Pocock.
Leaving the talented O'Connor out is a big mistake.


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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
22 Aug 2015, 11:30
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22 Aug 2015, 11:30#22
 Digby went to Europe & as he did not return to play rugby in OZ he wasn't eligible for OZ in the RWC according to their rules.
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