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Big mystery question for Dud Allende groupies

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2021, 06:46
#41
19 Dec 2021, 06:46#41

Your list of failed players you touted  is  partly standard BS allegations of players  mentioned on site.    in the case of some players I said they looked good as juniors and should be looked at in future if they remain prosing future prospects.   For the rest their is only one player I really touted and that is Schickerling - a 10 times better lock than Mostert.    

To include Du Toit, De Allende and Kolisi in that list is crazy and showed total prejudice and lack of any rugby kno0wledge on your part.   They were part and played a crucial tole in winning the RWC in 2019.  may experts rate the three as prime contributors to the WC win and experts also picked Du Toit as the World Player of the Year,   

The list if failures you support does not include Morne and Francois Steyn, Mostert. Alberts  and all the fiascos in the Japan and Italian disasters.    You also do not realize that age affect performance of players and when they start to lose  playing abilities you keep touting them as automatic selections - in that failed group is Matfield, Burger and a string of other failures in the 2015 WC squad with its 8 unplayable players included,   

You have again proved that I am correct - your so-calle3d BDS h as nothig to do with performance of players  and everything to do with prejudice against players based oon your mania to retain failures  whose perfor4mances deteriorated and people are to write that on public and aside from that what other members write on site in a desperate effort to discredit the relevant members.       

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2021, 17:51
#42
19 Dec 2021, 17:51#42

What a feeble defence of your horrendously poor judgement….there are many others. Remember your passionate support for Vorster? Awwwwgustus?

And here I am watching the Munster first half… ….huge Irish hype telling us how great Allende is. But in the whole first half he beats one poor tackle, gets beaten himself and with two absolutely gilt edged chances to score from 5 metres out, firstly doesn’t drive through low and then drops the ball over the line.

Hopefully the second half is better, this is embarrassing by a Bok centre playing against a palooka.

Having done nothing the first 20 minutes of the first half and the first 12 minutes of the second half…Dud wastes good ball with a nothing kick to touch. The commentators gush. Then finally they say they’d love to see him with more of the ball….an old refrain. The problem is he is never in the right place.

Dud finally does some vintage tractoring. The Frogs seem confused by the fact that he isn’t moving…and then a few passes later 3 Frogs can’t get  the O’ Donahue into touch.

Good kick coverage near the corner by Dud, bouncing off the massive Frog wing. Best thing he has done so far.

Dud gets the ball in a lot of space, which he duly takes and cramps the move up against the touch line. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2021, 18:30
#43
19 Dec 2021, 18:30#43

Mozartt

My impressions are factually and not made up BS  like yours.   When I one mentioned  some of your allegations in discussions with Rob Louw his reaction was utter disbelieve of what you wrote on site and said you must be a rugby moron.   The same is said by many people I know in rugby circles.   Your assessments are so bad I do not mention them anymore because rugby people will think it comes from me and I am an idiot to repeat the junk.    .              

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2021, 18:43
#44
19 Dec 2021, 18:43#44
Sure like you talked to the Malherbe’s father before Malherbe had to pull out of the YE tour….another figment of your imagination.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2021, 18:54
#45
19 Dec 2021, 18:54#45

Well that’s the game…..Dud has praise heaped on him on all game and they give Dud the MOM. Incredible he blows two tries, covers one kick well, beats one tackle cleanly, tractors once….gets beaten once.

And they give Dud the MOM.! Not O’ Donahue who had a great game and scored a much harder try than the 2 Dud botched.

My impression is he is playing with a bit more joy than he does in the Bok set up. He actually tried one flick on pass which would never have happened in a Bok game.

But he is missing in action so much of the time. Farrell was actually at 12 a lot. Vision and lack of pace off the mark (he’s top end is probably okay) means he isn’t dangerous at 12. He was probably always better suited to 13, but it’s too late now.

Compare this performance to the pivotal role Esterhozen plays in every game and you realize what the Boks are missing…a playmaker.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2021, 19:09
#46
19 Dec 2021, 19:09#46

So which game did you watch  - village rugby idiot?   Did you miss and misrepresent 90% of the game as per normal. \\

I never discussed rugby with Frans Malherbe's father - I did discuss it with Frans himself  and a few other ex-test players and theya ll agree you are making an utter fool of yourself.  The comments yopu made about are unproven BS you amde up as a prejudiced rugby idiot.

Keep making a fool of yourself - life is miserable at present - so any laugh about your rugby idiocy is welcome.        .    .   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2021, 22:02
#47
19 Dec 2021, 22:02#47
Oh yes it was Frans who told you he couldn’t wait to get on the plane, when he was about to default… eggface!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2021, 05:02
#48
20 Dec 2021, 05:02#48

No I did not ever wrote that BSter.   I said he did say he could not wait to get ont he plane - you are a liar nd distorter as to what I wrote.  That is the normal when it comes to uyour normal rugby myths you spout on site.   

How about a scathing attack on De Allende in the last Munster game and he was the MOM in the match - now that should add to the mountain of egg you had all over you.  Another example of how you distort performances of players.     I would rather have refrained from being making a fool of myself again after being caught out doing the same so many times in the past?       

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Dec 2021, 01:46
#49
21 Dec 2021, 01:46#49
DA is not completely useless, the try that was disallowed, was a close call...to be honest, with the Slo mo you can’t clearly see him loosing ball....he did look more relaxed and free to try things....defence was good....not to bad. Would be nice to see him play more like this in the bok setup , but agree, with the R&N tight game plan, most probably not going to happen.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Dec 2021, 04:25
#50
21 Dec 2021, 04:25#50

Dud played against 2 quality centres this year Henshaw and Kerevi. He was easily bested by Henshaw who made 3 clean breaks and  beat 5 defenders in 19 runs…….while Dud made 0 clean breaks and beat 4 defenders in 33 runs.

The numbers were even worse against Kerevi who made 2 clean breaks and beat 9 defenders in 24 runs. While poor Dud made 0 clean breaks and beat 0 defenders in 11 runs….incredible really.

So against quality opposition Dud managed 0 clean breaks and beat 4 defenders in 44 runs. Hard to believe a Springbok centre plays 5 tests, makes 44 runs and not one clean break!! Surely the most toothless stats ever produced by an established Bok centre. The emperor has no clothes and the fools can’t see it.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Dec 2021, 08:21
#51
21 Dec 2021, 08:21#51

What was De Allende's stats against the two players.   He was not bested by the two and was competitive.  You selected  some ststs  but not the whole stats as per normal with you - distortion being the norm with you.

The fact is you made yourself the laughing stock of everybody by the fool you made of yourself iro the last match involving  Munster.  If you ever write a fair assessment of you petty hate player's   performances it must still be discovered.    So keep on being a silly and prejudiced arsehole - we enjoy your rugby stupidity especially when easily exposed as garbage.    .       

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Dec 2021, 14:31
#52
21 Dec 2021, 14:31#52
Am is a better playmaker. Why not swop the two? 13- DA with his strength can run well off what 12- AM creates. You never know what might happen.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Dec 2021, 16:55
#53
21 Dec 2021, 16:55#53

Sides instinctively sense that nothing is happening in 12 channel….so in the Munster match last Saturday you saw Farrell taking the ball at 12 a  lot of the time. 

Your modern twelve has two basic running duties….firstly phase running, taking the tackle and resetting,  Dud does that as well as any  centre.

 The second is to actually breach the defence, either by beating tackles and breaking free, not just tractoring or by releasing a player in the tackle. Dud failscompletely on these dimensions . 

Am by contrast is a bit of a master at seeing opportunities….witness his release of Kolbe in the crucial 3rd Lions test. But is he physical enough to take the pounding at 12 and make the stop tackles?

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Dec 2021, 17:27
#54
21 Dec 2021, 17:27#54
That might be problem yes.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Dec 2021, 21:53
#55
22 Dec 2021, 21:53#55
DA is the best 12 in the game because of his freakish strength. Only Kerevi and Tuilagi can compete on that level but they are about as consistent and available as I am English. No centre in world rugby is as physically imposing as DA is. He carries defenders with ease be them backs or forwards Modern test rugby is played in the trenches and that’s why DA is so effective But as he showed on the EOYT he is equally adept at breaking defences through pure skill with a step and offloading the perfect offload Easily the best 12 in the game and for me the best 12 the Boks have ever had
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sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
22 Dec 2021, 22:52
#56
22 Dec 2021, 22:52#56

Man of the match performance over the weekend. He has brought more offloads and passes back into his game to mix things up.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Dec 2021, 00:52
#57
23 Dec 2021, 00:52#57

Old news….he botched 2 tries.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Dec 2021, 08:37
#58
23 Dec 2021, 08:37#58

Mozart

You have bee n lying about the botched tries and is totally unreliable about rugby performance.  You are so foolish that you earned the Most  Embarrassing Rugby Post of the Year Award again.   Stop embarrassing yourself in future.       

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Dec 2021, 11:46
#59
23 Dec 2021, 11:46#59
Ah the stupid Irish for naming him MOM - how silly of them - what do they know
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Dec 2021, 17:49
#60
23 Dec 2021, 17:49#60

It’s the Stampkar hype all over again……no clean breaks in 44 runs against worthy opponents…….best 12 in the game, hahaha, hilarious! !

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Dec 2021, 18:03
#61
23 Dec 2021, 18:03#61
Oh the silly ignorant Irish for naming the try scoring DA MOM - he is soooooo shit Bwhaahaaaa
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Dec 2021, 19:44
#62
23 Dec 2021, 19:44#62

Any decent centre would have scored both of those tries….the Irish have a love affair with South African flops. The hype started before Dud had even touched the ball.

The only thing beyond pure process play he pulled off was the fielding of the deep kick and shedding of the fat French wing. Perhaps he should play fullback, he is a Cul de sac at centre.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Dec 2021, 21:08
#63
23 Dec 2021, 21:08#63

No Mozart has a love affair with stupidity.    The hyp e was based on fact and you on total misrepresentation.   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Dec 2021, 01:33
#64
24 Dec 2021, 01:33#64
A decent centre - he is the best 12 in the game so far more than decent - he is a class act
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