Bismarck in the clear!

Hakwa

The difference between Bismarck and Nonu is easy.  Nonu is always a card candidate and collect them regularly - his illegal dangerous tackles are often more than his legal ones - and that represents a serious danger to all opposing players - a rugby thug if ever there was one.   Bismarck did something that he never did before - he went wild in one case and that is unpardonable.  He is not a naturally dirty player like Nonu is.

Moolaa

You are talking tripe - if there are players who shamed rugby in any country it is wrong.   But in SA dangerous play is routinely dealt with and Meyer and De Villiers who deal with issues and take decisive actions even publicly.   A player like Greyling after his play involving an off-side McCaw was publicly dressed down and is not in the running for SA selection at all.   

Your overweight hamburger thief coach is the one who should hang his head in shame.   He openly condones dirty and dangerous play and never utters a word against it.  Take the Hore incident last year where an opposing player landed in hospital after Hore attacked him - or the  scandalous tackle attempt on De Villiers by Nonu - where there was nothing said afterwards by any New Zealand management staff.

At leas we try and snuff out unacceptable dirty play - you lot condone it and thrive on it.  Apparently it is part of your coaching programme as well.

Your scurrilous attack deserve my response and I suggest that we deal with issues on a more respectful basis in future.   

hakwa

James is past tense and he was dropped from the team years ago.   Same as Bakkies - but Thorne was a dirtier player than Bakkies as well.   Anyway we are not discussing past tense here - we are talking about the present.

Nonu not a dirty player - who thrives on illegal and dangerous tackles with an obvcious intention to injure players?  How many cards did he collect this year?   One red card and I stopped counting the yellow ones.   Nonu is a player in decline and he has only one way to survive and that is to make illegal plays.   Statistically by far the dirtiest player in 2013.  

In any event - Meyer and De Villiers reprimanded Greyling publicly and apologized to McCaw about the Greyling incident.   The tackle on De Villiers was equally dangerous and - no apologies to the opposition captain at all.   Rude and partly responsible for dirty play - that is your coach and captain alike.   They seem to encourage that type of play.

Delighted...the best news...now the Sharks can settle scores...sorry Beeno it's time for the cup to spend a year in Durb's.

Sasue

I apologize for the rough things I said above.  I hate it if people start generalizing an attacking  SA and the people and players from here.

Every rugby team has its black sheep and pointing of fingers at one team is uncalled for.  I myself went for Bismarck and beeno in a big way and criticized both severely.   Bismarck deserve the criticism he got and is getting - but to go and make allegations about all players is uncalled for and nasty.  Hence my response comment.  

I hope I am objective in most things - but sometimes make postings with a specific objective to get responses - not always serious about it.   You just have to say something negative about McCaw or as a matter of fact any AB player and the sky falls in and beeno applauds.    

 Bismark might be better suited to league....League boys celebrate a good hit but not sure if he could handle getting smashed himself without throwing a temper tantrum that would embarrass a 2yr old...anyway, leagues a mans game.... the toughest team sport in the world - thats why Saffas aren't very good at it...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/a-mugs-guide-to-the-2013-rugby-league-world-cup/story-e6frf3ou-1226743823744

 Sasuke, your statement : "i will refer u to 2013 ellis park, where All blacks playing with 14 players for 60 minutes showed why All Blacks are the No1 team, period"

Are you sure about this one? I will give you some time to go away and think about it but I will give you some clues but will not derive the answer for you. A rugby game is 80 mins, a yellow card rules the offending player out for 10 mins. NZL received 2 yellow cards. 10 + 10 = _

80 - _ = _ mins with 15 men on the field!

Dont ever underestimate the predictability of stupidity I say!

Hakwa, Butch James does not play the same position as Nonu. I think you will find at 10, Nonu is not in Butch's league and at 12, vice versa. When comparing, lets make it comparable pls!

Cast your attentions to Butch's prime. 2007 WC. No flyhalf in the world was as valuable as Butch. He came to that tournament the perfect player. He left all his no arms tackling shit behind and he was definately the best 10 on show! So reliable and safe. A real unsung hero of the Bok campaign.

Sasuke again, Nonu's tackles are not in the same league as Bizzy's stomp. You do realise rucking used to be legal. Bizzy's 1 stomp (although not right now) would not have compared to the way blokes used to climb on okes when they lay all over the ball. (Something NZL are lucky is banned because Richie and Read would look like mince meat after a game in the good old days, They can role through the ruck but they will taste the studs of at least 10 boots). You really comparing tackles that can hurt someone and have been banned as long as rugby has been in existence to very mild and even soft rucking. I say soft because 1 stamp vs a guy mountaineering on you is hardly gona hurt you.

I must ask again, How soft does NZL wana get? Just let us know because it seems good hard tackling is already out. Anything else? How about charge downs that connect with the face? If a Bok kicks the ball into an AB striking him chest and above, automatic red card for the Bok. What you queers say? 

 Brycy, NZL are superb at league. It is a bogan game. No brains needed. Just a massive war of attrition. The biggest and fittest team doing best usually. Just big, dumb meat heads running straight into each other all day.

Anything that takes no brains will be mastered by Kiwi's.