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Bok ratings against Samoa

Started by Blikkies13 REPLIES378 VIEWS· 26 Sept 2015, 21:52
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
26 Sept 2015, 21:52
#1
26 Sept 2015, 21:52#1

ex Rugby 365:


15 Willie le Roux
Joined the backline with speed and made more running metres than any other player on the field. His ability to be unpredictable tested the Samoan defence throughout the game.
8/10


14 JP Pietersen
Scored three tries and showed glimpses of his younger self. Definitely one of his best games in a Springbok jersey in years. 
9/10


13 Jean de Villiers
His distribution to his outside backs was brilliant and he had a hand in one of the tries. He also held his own on defence. 
7/10


12 Damian De Allende
Crossed the gain line every time he got the ball and brushed off a number of Samoan defenders with his big frame. The Springboks will be hoping his injury is not too serious.  
8/10


11 Bryan Habana
Consistently looked for work all over the park and beat a number of defenders during the game. He also got on the scoreboard with a great try. 
8/10


10 Handré Pollard
Took the ball to the line on a number of occasions and seemed more confident with Fourie du Preez on his inside. He gave his outside backs good ball but he still needs to work on his kicking game.
7/10


9 Fourie du Preez
His quick service at the breakdown gave the Springbok attack direction and he took a lot of pressure off Handré Pollard's shoulders with his tactical kicking. A sublime performance by the veteran.
10/10


8 Duane Vermeulen
Took some time to get into the game but made some good carries in the second half. He also brought some much needed physicality to the Springbok team.
7/10


7 Schalk Burger
Was at his very best and had a work rate that was second to none in the forward pack. A great all round performance by one of South Arica's greatest players.
9/10


6 Francois Louw
Was a menace at the breakdowns throughout the game. He slowed possession down for the Samoans and also put in some big hits on defence.
8/10


5 Victor Matfield
Made his presence felt in the line-out with a few steals and ensured his team got possession on their own throw in. He was also the anchor in a powerful Springbok driving maul.  
8/10


4 Eben Etzebeth
His aggression and physicality in the tackle was just what his team needed in the tight exchanges. He also carried the ball into contact well.
8/10


3 Jannie du Plessis
Was poor in the scrums and gave away some silly penalties. His place in the team is not safe.
4/10


2 Adriaan Strauss
Found his line-out jumpers with ease and was also at the forefront of a powerful Springbok pack. 
7/10


1 Tendai Mtawarira
Did not have a lot of the ball and was solid in the scrums. He did what was asked of him.
6/10


Replacements: 


16 Schalk Brits (On for A Strauss, 67 min)
Not enough time to be rated


17 Trevor Nyakane (On for T Mtawarira, 61 min)
Was solid in the scrum when he came and did not do any damage to his reputation in open play.
6/10


18 Frans Malherbe (On for J du Plessis, 53 min)
Turned the Springboks' fortunes around in the scrum when he came on in the second half and looked like a man possessed with ball in hand.
8/10


19 Lodewyk de Jager (On for V Matfield, 54 min)
Carried the ball strongly and got his team momentum. He also did well in the line-outs. 
7/10


20 Siya Kolisi (On for S Burger, 67 min)
Not enough time to be rated.


21 Ruan Pienaar (On for F du Preez, 73 min)
Not enough time to be rated


22 Pat Lambie (On for J de Villiers, 71 min)
Not enough time to be rated.


23 Jesse Kriel (On for D de Allende, 48 min)
His speed in the midfield brought something different to the team in the second half and was a constant threat with the ball. It was a good 38 minutes for the youngster. 
7/10

BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:02
#2
26 Sept 2015, 22:02#2
 This is our half back combo end of discussion. Great recovery by Burger after last week.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:10
#3
26 Sept 2015, 22:10#3
 How in the world does Lood get 7 and matfiled 8. Its crazy how these groupies see things.Meyer now has to bench Jannie and give pap matfiled the boot.
In come Lood and Malherbe with Steph covering ,lock. Then we are really making progress.
Wonder if Alberts will ever be fit?
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:14
#4
26 Sept 2015, 22:14#4
 Jannie is still a proven entity against the best scrums, Mal is not. It would be foolish to disregard that fact.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:16
#5
26 Sept 2015, 22:16#5
 Blikkies
I think some of the ratings were a bit on the high side - but there obviously a vast improvement in the performance of the team as a whole.   I still think the Tight 5 improved drastically when Jannie and Matfield were replaced.   Although Matfield did very well in the line-outs I would say that the two penalties given away by him sjould also be taken into account:-
I would say that the rating should be Matfield  7/10 and De Jager 8/10.
The only player I thought was disappointing was Jannie du Plessis - his scrumming was not up to standard and the remainder of his game not much better,   I think a ratiing of 3/10 would be appropriate.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,281 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:54
#6
26 Sept 2015, 22:54#6
Malherbe was looking to the real deal. If he continues like he did today he will take the starting 3 position.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Sept 2015, 22:57
#7
26 Sept 2015, 22:57#7
 Agreed Mike, de Jager was better than Matfield on the day.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2015, 23:28
#8
26 Sept 2015, 23:28#8
 DF
In Super 15 Malherbe destroyed all opposing props - Du Plessis did not,  Malherbe is a much better scrummager than Jannie and he is also very good outside of scrumming - which Jannie is not.    
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Sept 2015, 23:46
#9
26 Sept 2015, 23:46#9
 Ou maaaikie the samoans didnt have a lineout. Your grandmother who dated victor could have done as well!  They never even contested ours. Lood and Eben took all their ball and stol;e as well. Rediculous to think this was a great lineout exhibition against non eneties in lineout work.The big thing to note was that wee victor knew this and this called so many calls to himself so as to con once again the foolish! 
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
26 Sept 2015, 23:54
#10
26 Sept 2015, 23:54#10
 I don't dispute that Mal is good outside the scrum, but he hasn't done anything at test level against credible opposition. Even in 2011 when Samoa were at the very peak of their powers they were no scrumming force. So he rightfully stands as questionnable.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2015, 23:58
#11
26 Sept 2015, 23:58#11
 Balls - stop talking crap.     
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
27 Sept 2015, 01:46
#12
27 Sept 2015, 01:46#12
 Mike, what did you make of FDP?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2015, 06:26
#13
27 Sept 2015, 06:26#13
 Let me correct the nonsense about the props. Jannie is not a dominating tighthead, but technically watertight. So when the pack is struggling he functions. Malherbe is more destructive when the pack is dominating....but as we saw against Oz, he can be a liability on retreat. Today he never had to deal with the Samoan first string props when they were fresh. By the time Malherbe and Lomp came on the Samoans had lost juice....it wasn't a contest.
As for Lomp and Victor, they were both excellent today....as was Etzebeth. I wont even try to explain to the chaps who thought Samoa was going to win....why Victor was excellent. But take it from those who can see....he was.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2015, 06:48
#14
27 Sept 2015, 06:48#14
 This idiot does not realize yet - Jannoe did not function today - he struggled badly and the scrum was a mess on the Tighthead side whether he was technically correct or not.   When Malherbe came on he reversed the scrumming problem of the Boks completely and the scrum became dominating.  
And then followed the standard Mozart lie about the situation in the Oz test that he repeated ad infinitum - even though the lie was dealt with in the past extensively.
As for the story about Matfield nobody disputes that Matfield had a better game today than he had against the Scots - but we do not need another explanation from you.  All with eyes to see is that De Jager was better than Matfield when he came on.   The result was two rolling maul tries - because the Tight 5 was strengthened - and the turnaround in scrumming was helped substantially by De Jager.  De Jager is much better than Matfield  in ball carries in traffic and a much stronger tackler tackling opposing players back - which Matfield cannot do.  .                      
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