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Started by clevermike17 REPLIES355 VIEWS· 17 Apr 2015, 11:41
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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Apr 2015, 11:41
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17 Apr 2015, 11:41#1

After watching the game this morning it is clear to me that the Crusaders must really reconsider the selection of McCaw and Carter in future.  Both put in pathetic performances.  Carter was not too bad - but his goalkicking was pathetic.  The only two players of the Crusaders that deserve some credit were Read and to a lesser extent  Whitelock - the rest was bloody useless.


McCaw and Carter should consider leaving the game now and concentrate on playing a few more seasons club rugby in Europe - they will embarrass the All Blacks if they s tay on.       

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17 Apr 2015, 11:47
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17 Apr 2015, 11:47#2
 How about congratulating the Mighty Chiefs Mike on a clinical display??
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17 Apr 2015, 11:49
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17 Apr 2015, 11:49#3
 Clevermike Taufua had a strong performance i thought. Funny how the Crusaders beat the Sharks only to lose to a team that lost to the Sharks. Go figure.
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17 Apr 2015, 11:51
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17 Apr 2015, 11:51#4
 Not hard to figure out awesome oak. The Sharks played a shocker. Ou rooitwit was so embarassed he disappeared for days!
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17 Apr 2015, 11:53
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17 Apr 2015, 11:53#5
 That is asking a lot from our resident fault/problem finder. It is never about the other side having more and/or better ammo. It is always about this, that and the other useless player who cost his team a win. 
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17 Apr 2015, 12:00
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17 Apr 2015, 12:00#6
 Awesome
I should have added Taufua to the list of acceptable players.
I think the problem with the Crusaders are the same as that of the Sharks - too many over the hill geriatrics in their midst coupled to a person who has been the worst scrumming penalty machine this season.  They should send Crockett to primary school with only one instruction - learn how to scrum legally.
Let me say the Chiefs thoroughly deserve their victory - but they still have one of the weakest scrum in the tournament.   They have a magnificient backline and some very good forwards  (Cane and Leitsh) - but I was not particularly impressed by the rest of the forwards anyway.      
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17 Apr 2015, 12:14
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17 Apr 2015, 12:14#7
 Retallick was awesome in only his 2nd game back Mike. I know you don't like him but fair's fair!!
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17 Apr 2015, 12:21
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17 Apr 2015, 12:21#8
 Was crockett pinged for his chronic illegal scrumming Mike?
The Sharks Locks lack grunt and are old has beens for sure. They should play Alberts at lock
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17 Apr 2015, 12:36
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17 Apr 2015, 12:36#9
 Moolaa
I think that Retallick was not particularly good today - I would say more or less average to above average - but he and Whitelock remains the two best locks in New Zealand. Awesome eh definitely was not - sorry to disagree there.   
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17 Apr 2015, 12:45
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17 Apr 2015, 12:45#10
 Lets hope Hnasen bows to popular demand from Cloudy and co and continues to pick wee mcaaaw - and of course old man Carter and the other wee ab has been oaks.
Hansen is like Meyer. Both have hung onto players too long and will need to play test greenhorns. 
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17 Apr 2015, 12:48
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17 Apr 2015, 12:48#11
Wouldent be too fast to write off Richie and dc. Last year Richie sucked at super lvl. But went on to dominate at 7 for the abs. This was what his first game in ages dc too. Just saying form is temporary, class is permenant. Just saying give them the benefit of the doubt. Retillick average? Pfft he was outstanding.
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17 Apr 2015, 12:49
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17 Apr 2015, 12:49#12
 Cloudy
Sorry to disappoint you - but Tim cannot play for the AB's ever.  He played in the Samoa 7's team and that rule him out of selection for the AB's in terms of IRB Rules.
I would rather say Lowe is a very strong future candidate.
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17 Apr 2015, 12:52
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17 Apr 2015, 12:52#13
 moolaa
McCaw last year sucked at test level as well.  So there is no chance that he would improve on that level at all.  
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17 Apr 2015, 13:19
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17 Apr 2015, 13:19#14

Interesting this week how our Sevens coach has been approaching some AB players to play in the Rio Olympics. K Reid has turned him down and Slade has turned him down as has Cruden. Barret sounded interested but any player that excepts will have to miss next years Super rugby.

And how different will the competition look next year with 18 teams. Will be many a selection nightmare for fantasy football fanantics.

With so many players leaving for Europe after the RWC i hear that we are almost bankrupting some of these french clubs in the process. Conversely and on the positive side with players like Slade leaving, the NZfranchises will have much more money in their coffers .

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17 Apr 2015, 13:35
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17 Apr 2015, 13:35#15
Sorry mike have to disagree mccaw was a beast last year for the abs. Stats say he was the best international 7 in the world.
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17 Apr 2015, 13:57
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17 Apr 2015, 13:57#16

 ...couldn't help but admire how good the Super XV log looks at the moment...a couple a Kiwi teams leading the way by the looks... and how you like them apples Bean Brain....shaping up to be an epic clash between the Canes and the Mighty Chiefs in Round 14 without a doubt..

                                

                                    



Overall Super Rugby table and standingsConference leaders. TeamNationPWLDPFPAPDBpTtl1.Chiefs()9720224154704322.Brumbies()853018799885253.Bulls()853022918841424Wild Card teams 4.Hurricanes()7700192102903315.Highlanders()7520163136274246.Stormers()853019917524222            7.Lions()9540141189-481218.Crusaders()9450243192514209.Sharks()9450191224-3342010Waratahs ()74301621402221811.Rebels()7340135156-2131512.Cheetahs() 8350158248-9011313.Blues()8170134178-445914.Force()8170124185-614815.Reds()817093209-11637Last update after Match #58/125




 


                                                   



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17 Apr 2015, 14:20
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17 Apr 2015, 14:20#17
True Brycy, NZers are looking good, but at least us Saffas don't look quite as shart as the Aussies. LOL! Top team 3rd overall, forgetting conferences for now, and their next best is 10th!!! 
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17 Apr 2015, 14:38
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17 Apr 2015, 14:38#18
 moolaa
That may have been the viewpoint of the NZ supporters, but just check how many penalties Mc Caw gave away - what was his missed tackle ratio in tests - possession turnovers and it was not really indicative of top performances.  McCaw is way behind where he used to be and to argue that it is not so - as not realistic.
I would as a SA supporter love it if McCaw is playing for the AB's - since players like Sam Cane and Matt Todd would create much more problems that McCaw does.  
    
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