PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
07 Jun 2014, 14:06#81
AB always start slow but will progress the Poms will not. The AB will be tougher and tougher by the RC they will be be in full swing and wont be so generous in their tactics and execution and will have better set plays and ball handling. That cost them dearly. Don't worry Bok fans don' t get to excited by this.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jun 2014, 14:49#82
papa moaner I understand that a number of first team Engkansd poalyers will be available next week. Wonder when they arrive in nz. If travel not an inssue they should strenthen England? If England pack gets even better what will nz do?
Beeno concer ned as to welbeing of wee abs
07 Jun 2014, 15:15#83
Now where are our friends who was hoping for NZ to put 50+ on the England team?
07 Jun 2014, 15:19#84
funny that, a Team full of Rookies and Geriatrics and they still won
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
07 Jun 2014, 15:25#85
bean brain.. All Blacks will win what will SA do? That is all you need to worry about this year pal. Hows the trophy cabinet looking... What's that sound... crickets chirping
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jun 2014, 16:09#86
Wash ya hair PAPA MOANER and the crickets will depart.I wouldn' t crow too much about ill gotten gains. The future is where the focus is now.
I concede Meyer may have made a wrong turn. We shall see
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
07 Jun 2014, 16:38#87
no moaning this end wally. your the one moaning, we shall see indeed I cant wait for more of your moaning and crap. Should take a break, don' t have to be an ass hole all your life you know.
07 Jun 2014, 17:27#88
poms showed up kiwis for sure inconsistent reffing screwed the poms with abs deserving of 2 yellow cards nigel owens a silly prick. And no doubt on the take.
Poms had 17 top players out I think kiwis are on the slide. Just shows like the tahs last week they dont like the physical stuff hope ewen saves thd biggest pack for the cattish abs especially messam big cat only ever puts cheap hits on smaller blokes...
07 Jun 2014, 19:01#89
We were fucking robbed. Owens was in the pocket for fucking sure, the mans getting old and thinking about his retirement fund I guess
Kiwi's are just a bunch of dirty, cheating half breeds with a pack that is weak as fuck. I hope we hurt them next week and why doesn't someone tell that silly prick Dane Coles to have a shave he's just a weak fat kid trying to play a mans game.
All of our teams need to really hurt these pricks just to bring some honour back to the game. Why Australia doesn't just invade them and burn the whole country to the ground I'll never know. You wouldn't have any complaints from this side of the world.
07 Jun 2014, 22:21#90
I'm afraid that the reffing was appalling, yes.
That was a Yellow for Nonu...he stopped a Try for Haskell and the second incident just before Yarde had a Yellow, which I have no issue with, also was deserving of Yellow too. Why no card for either incident ?
May did not knock on, he knocked back...that was one of a number of those given against us which had a massive impact on the game as we lost momentum at crucial moments.
To say we had the upper hand as a team going into this match really does show how little you all know about what is going on with my team ( as shown by the comments of certain players this week ) This was not the England team, we haven't played together before and we are unlikely to play this team again. They are not used to each other and they are a tired bunch or players coming back from injuries.
What you did see was a bunch of players who went out there and played a very good game of Rugby against a team and the Ref. They almost did something that most teams can't and I for one am incredibly pleased with them. I am just sorry they couldn't win it, because they damned well deserved to.
I knew they wouldn't be beaten by 50 points, that they would go out there and give a good account of themselves, because I know we are not the useless bunch that certain people keep saying we are.
We are building a team and a Squad with a view to competing and doing well at the RWC. And the future is rather bright for English Rugby, whatever certain naysayers would have you believe.
Yes, we might lose these games. But as long as we develop and keep building, then it will all be positive.
And I'm afraid Richie McCaw is looking rather old. And is still the cheat he always was. He's getting too slow to stop getting caught these days though, isn't he ? Best give up, methinks
07 Jun 2014, 22:30#91
Typically ungracious responses from English fans who demand graciousness whenever their team wins, classy.
08 Jun 2014, 00:25#92
For all you kiwis just wait till refs turn on your team.. aig must be paying big bucks to the refs dvery time the refs are helping thd all cats.
08 Jun 2014, 02:22#93
Becs, England were in the fortunate situation of playing NZL first up. Remember back to last year. France arrived in NZL and first game was a 23-13 cracker and everyone thought France had a shot. Next game they went on to catch it 30-0 and finally 24-9. We saw Ireland catch it 42-10 in the 1st test in 2012. Second test, they had a better team and an inspired game and they narrowly lost 22-19...Last game, everyone thought Ireland were warming into it and they would get the win as AB's looked shit and then what happened?? I will remind you..60-0 hiding!!
Your dreams of England doing "what most teams cant" has fallen by the wayside. AB's have that 1st one under their belt..They have woken up now..They are hurting from this performance and embarrassed that England are being spoken of in the likes of "should have won!" against them so you can be sure the next two games are going to be comfortably won by NZL.
Its a pity SA never get a 3 match tour of NZL first up. No doubt that Eden park record wouldn't still be standing. England are strong but just not strong enough. SA are!
Nigel Owens was shit though. Ruling knock ons for balls tapped back..It boggles my mind that he can get away with that. Never in my life have I ever seen refs rule like this. Sure, its a scrum only but the fact is that it ruins momentum and gives the AB's undeserved field position and a set piece.
What England can be happy with though is that they are on the right track for 2015. A decent squad forming here and those wee AB forwards wont come close in the WC. Let NZL laugh now because if they meet England when it counts in the WC at some stage, it will be England laughing.
It just wouldn't be rugby if a ref was not the biggest player in a NZL test match. Its like the ref is "not himself" the minute he runs out onto Eden Park and he starts doing weird shit. We saw it in the WC final with Craig Jobert, last year with Romain Poite and last night with Nigel Owens. NZL are unbeatable at Eden Park and it has nothing to do with the players prowess!
08 Jun 2014, 02:43#94
And it wouldn't be an All Black test match if a SA fan wasn't bitching about the result. The best thing about the match was the result, 15 consecutive test wins, 2 to go to equal the record NZ jointly holds.
08 Jun 2014, 03:00#95
Watch the game through your neutral glasses Poi-e..Not your All Black ones!
08 Jun 2014, 03:03#96
I didn't expect a win, Misnomer Boy
All I have said is that I certainly didn't expect the 50 point drubbing that my " insult " of a team were expected to get in certain quarters. I have explained time and again what the situation is with our fixture congestion and injury situation and I knew that they would give of their best whomever stepped out there on that pitch. They did just that and were highly unfortunate to be Reffed in such a dismal manner; they deserved better.
Would they have won ? Possibly not. But they deserved to.
They have been spoken of, in all quarters, in a hughly disparaging manner and it's time it stopped.
As I have also said, I certainly have no expectations of winning matches over there this Tour....if they do so, I will be very pleased for them. If they hold NZ close, then that will be fantastic. As long as they improve and the new players/combinations develop well, it will be a job well done.
And yes, NZ deserved two Yellow cards in that match, if Yarde deserved his.
08 Jun 2014, 04:36#97
Neutral glasses wouldn't blame the ref for the loss, but then again I'm not a Bok fan watching with Bok glasses on hoping anybody that plays the All Blacks beats them.
08 Jun 2014, 04:43#98
Its arrogant fans like Becs that make it so satisfying to beat the English, The Fekitoa incident was hardly worthy of a definite yellow, the ball carrier hadn't hit the ground so he thought he was in a position to hold the ball up, Yarde's offence was cynical. Nonu's offence was probably a yellow on the balance of things.
08 Jun 2014, 05:59#99
Poi-e, Nonu and Fekitoa was a yellow..No questions asked. No matter what Fekitoa thought, he prevented a certain try in the red zone...More "red zone" than you can get!
How come you used the word "probably" in Nonu's case?? This is what we are talking about..When it comes to All Blacks, its always "probably" but other teams it "definitely" is a yellow..We just want fairness and consistency. But please, dont take my word for it. Have a read of this article from your very own, NZ Herald.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10666870
We are not coming out of left field with this one..It is a fact..There is always conspiracies surrounding All Blacks games and the All Blacks always seem to be on the right side of them..
Have a look at this whilst you are at it..No one is scared of the All Blacks..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdr-W775hk4
08 Jun 2014, 06:59#100
If you're suggesting your view is any less biased than an All Blacks supporter but on the opposing side you're having a laugh, I refuse to entertain anyone trying to push conspiracy theories as the reasons the ABs win...
Btw that 4 year old article you're referencing as some kind of admission of Kiwi guilt because it was published in the NZ herald was written by British journo Peter Bills.
You see it's easier to believe in conspiracy theories than entertain the more inconvenient truth, the All Blacks are just consistently better than all other rugby nations, don't get bitter, get better.
Also I'd suggest given the Boks have only taken a solitary test win off the ABs since mid 2009 they probably fear them more than you care to admit.
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
08 Jun 2014, 07:27#101
NZ herald is NOT!! a good source for information about NZ rugby if anything do us all a favor and find another site for information like All Blacks.com or anywhere but don't believe that what you read online is reality or the vibe of true kiwis and AB supporters.
I'm getting Fucking sick of justifying the All Blacks. It is what it is get over man.
08 Jun 2014, 07:37#102
Papamoa, the author of that 4 year old article was British journo Peter Bills, and I disagree, the Herald contains views from a lot of International experts and journos which makes it a great source for opinion pieces...but based on the attitudes on here you'd swear the Saffa media only prints stories about how the NZRU is conspiring to fuck the Boks out of ever achieving anything in world rugby ever again.
08 Jun 2014, 10:09#103
So we must get our facts from Allblacks.com?? Yeah, because the All Blacks rugby site is really going to say, "Hey guys..Look at us..We are cheats!"
No matter who the author, the story was published and he would not have sucked those figures out of his thumb...No conspiracies, its blatant...I wonder if ol Paddy O' Brien will give any ref another gig if he lets the AB's lose, especially in Auckland??
08 Jun 2014, 10:23#104
Here comes the tin foil hat brigade....ahh the soothing comfort of the conspiracy....you do know Paddy O'Brien isn't the head of the IRB referees board anymore Boklogic.
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
08 Jun 2014, 15:54#105
some is poi-e ... some. Were else is their to go? Bring back the old All Blacks.com so we don't have to cater to these stupid mothar farkars, any suggestions?