Compelling evidence of matchfixing by dodgy hosts SA

Oh dear Bean Brain...say it is'nt so...compelling evidence that one or more of the games played by the host in the buildup to the worlds showpiece tournament were fixed by betting syndicates...FIFA's report also recommended further examination of some South African officials...casts doubt on SA ability to host any tournament really...no doubt Bean Brain you will be able to put a positive spin on these embarrasing new revelations...c'mon mate make us all laugh...

 FIFA is corrupt as a body and not really much to do with the host country. If the officials were appointed by FIFA as they own the brand of Football. The tournament was actually considered a success by many people being the first World Cup of football to be hosted in Africa.

I do not follow football but it seems to be the most corrupt sport and makes much of its profit from corruption as an organised business.

Brycy

Sorry - there is nothing about corruption in the local media and there definitely would be if there really was something going on.   I know there was a major problem in the relevant regard in Zimbabwe - a different country altogether.   Will watch out - though.

It must have been really disappointing for you that the 2010 Soccer WC was regarded worldwide as a major success.

I must agree with Sharkbok though - Soccer management worldwide is a major problem.    There is also a degree in some isntances in rugby that raises serious question marks.   People like Bryce Lawrence springs to mind in the relevant regard.     

 I suspected corruption the minute the tournament ended with NZL not losing a game ;-) Since when do NZL football not lose... Thats the only story you need delve into Brycy...

I love the title..."Compelling Evidence"...ha ha just like the compelling evidence that Bryce Lawrence is a twot...

...hey boklogshit , quit using the name Lord Brycy the Magnificent in vain you silly overstaying yarpy

.....notsoclevermike, something to do with yr local football club being a front for Asian syndicates... shameful really...Brycy with all the breaking news no matter how painful....

Brycy

There must be hundreds of local clubs attached to SA Soccer and I would not be surprised if some of them are corrupt.    However, the WC hosting was  national issue and as for matchfixing - the issue is normally dealt with comprehensively if proven.    I don't think there was any evidence  linking any corruption as to the WC - but FIFA itself is inherently corrupt and the target of media attacks - expecially from England after not being awarded the host status for the next two WC's after 2014.   

The 2014 WC is to be held in Brazil, the one after that in Russia - followed by Qatar.   2026 would be in North America and 2030 in Africa - in terms of the FIFA policy on continental allocation.   There may even be one for Australia thrown in - before Europe gets a chance again.  

It is unlikely that after that corrupt vote by a New Zealander in 1996 - when allocation was considered for 2000 and 2004  - I cannot recollect his name - that the latter will be the case.    What actually happen was that he was instructed by the Oceania Unions to vote for SA - but instead voted for Germany.   The outcome was that Germany got 11 votes and SA 10 - so corruption there was a real issue at the time.   The issue stank too high heaven at the time and that type of thing severely discredited Soccer in the Oceania area. 

 Mike, dont entertain Brycy's "theories". Only "compelling evidence" we have is that NZL ref's are the worlds worst and Brycy likes to watch his dad shower! Thats all that is truely evident here!

He talks shit and I see his digs at South Africans's are yet to cease.

..thats the funniest thing i've ever heard notsoclevermike....we voted for germany instead of south africa....damn thats cold haha...

A FIFA report into match fixing in the weeks before the 2010 World Cup has found “compelling evidence” that one or more friendly games involving host, South Africa, were fixed ahead of the world’s showpiece tournament.

The South African Football Association conceded Saturday that it had been “infiltrated” two years ago by now-convicted match-fixer, Wilson Perumal, and his “bogus” football company Football4U - which was actually a front for Asian betting syndicates.

No players have been implicated in fixing matches. Instead, referees appointed by Perumal’s Football4U were thought to have manipulated one or more of South Africa’s World Cup buildup games for betting markets.

Some South African officials could have aided Perumal, SAFA said.

“The full extent of the web of international crime is now exposed,” SAFA chief executive Robin Petersen, said after South Africa received the report from FIFA.

SAFA didn’t immediately identify the games but South Africa’s 5-0 win over Guatemala and 2-1 win over Colombia in late May 2010 - two weeks before the World Cup kicked off - were under suspicion.

Three penalties for handball were awarded by Niger referee Ibrahim Chaibou in the South Africa-Guatemala game on May 31, with two of them clearly incorrect. Chaibou is also being sought for questioning by FIFA for his handling of other suspicious games in Africa, Asia and South America, where a high number of penalties were awarded, apparently to feed betting scams.

All three goals in the South Africa-Colombia game on May 27, which was refereed by a Kenyan official, came from penalty kicks.

That match was the official opening of South Africa’s redeveloped Soccer City showpiece stadium, which hosted Spain’s victory over Netherlands in the World Cup final a little over a month later.

South Africa also beat Thailand 4-0 and drew with Bulgaria 1-1 in games to prepare for the World Cup.

“The FIFA report addresses the question as to whether one or more of the pre-World Cup friendly matches was fixed and finds compelling evidence that this was indeed the case,” SAFA said in a statement released in the early hours of Saturday and acknowledging the receipt of FIFA’s report on Friday.

SAFA said its emergency committee would continue to study the report compiled by FIFA’s former head of security, Chris Eaton, over the weekend and take legal advice before deciding on a course of action.

After allegations of fixing in the World Cup buildup, SAFA asked FIFA to take over the investigation. The world football body began looking at the matches in March this year.

While no players were thought to be involved in the fixing, SAFA would now investigate some of its own officials on the advice of the FIFA report to see if they colluded with Perumal’s Football4U agency ‘’with criminal intent’’ to help appoint referees and fix matches.

“The report identifies various SAFA officials who interacted with Football4U, and recommends that `further examination’ of these officials should take place,” SAFA said.

SAFA had already acknowledged that it became suspicious of the match officials taking charge of some of its pre-World Cup friendlies and decided to replace Chaibou at short notice as referee for South Africa’s final warm-up game, a 1-0 win over Denmark on June 5, 2010.

Singaporean Perumal is now in jail in Finland for fixing games there, while match-fixing scandals have also hit Turkey, Italy, South Korea and South Africa’s neighbor, Zimbabwe, among others.

Zimbabwe’s national association recently banned players, coaches and its former chief executive for life for involvement in fixing games for Perumal’s betting syndicates on national team tours to Asia as far back as 2009.

Brycy

All Black NZ

Thanks for the info.   Thee was apparently no South African involved in the scam.   Perumal is from Singapore and the referees involved were all from other counties - according to the report.   Sorry to disappoint you.  

However, that New Zealand crook that was bribed by the Germans was a chap by the name of Campbell.   Bad news that one.   There were bad results from that one - and I think it reflected very badly on the image of New Zealand.

 Ummm perhaps you skipped over this part dumbasapostmike

“The report identifies various SAFA officials who interacted with Football4U, and recommends that `further examination’ of these officials should take place,” SAFA said.

poi-e

I am not disputing the fact that there might have been SAFA officials that took bribes to have referees recommended by Perumal appointed - after all bribery and corruption is a stock in trade in certain quarters in South Africa.   You only need to read newspapers in SA and become acqainted with the facr about those abuses.

However, the incidents referred to did not happen at the WC in 2010 - but in friendly games preceding that event.

However, Brycy's initial post reminded me of a real crook from New Zealand - Campbell - also invovled in soccer - the actions of which caused major international repercussions. So lets leave it at that and see whether the corrupt soccer officials get dealt with judicially. 

In 1996, he was introduced to Indian bookmaker Mukesh Gupta – known as 'John' – by Mohammad Azharuddin (the former India captain who was banned for life by his board in 2000). It was the start of a long and lucrative relationship – Cronje received bribes totalling about £65,000.

During a Test in Kanpur in 1996, Gupta asked Cronje to persuade his team to throw the match. Cronje says he spoke to no one and "received money for doing nothing".

In the infamous Centurion Test against England in 2000, he received £5,000 and a leather jacket for contriving a win for Nasser Hussain's tourists when a weather-affected draw looked certain.

Later that year, in India, he asked Mark Boucher, Jacques Kallis and Lance Klusener to throw a Test. They thought he was joking, and refused.

He then asked Herschelle Gibbs and Henry Williams to under-perform in a one-day international at Nagpur. Gibbs was told to score fewer than 20, while Williams agreed to concede more than 50. Even though they were not paid after Gibbs hit 74 and Williams bowled 1.5 overs due to injury, they received six-month bans

After New Delhi police unearthed the scandal, Cronje lost the captaincy. He confessed at the King Commission in 2000, and died in a plane crash in 2002.

Saleem Malik was banned for life by Pakistan's Qayyum Inquiry in May 2000 (although the ban was overturned in 2008). Wasim Akram, Mushtaq Ahmed, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Akram Raza and Saeed Anwar were all censured and fined.

During England's 1998-99 Ashes tour, it came to light that the Australian Board had secretly fined Mark Waugh and Shane Warne in 1995 for giving information to bookies in Sri Lanka in 1994.

In England, in 1994, former Essex seamer Don Topley claimed his county's three-day and one-day matches against Lancashire in 1991 were fixed. Scotland Yard probed the allegations but no charges were brought.

An unnamed Australian player was approached by a suspected illegal bookmaker at London's Royal Kensington Garden Hotel, after last summer's Lord's Test.

Earlier this month Essex duo Danish Kaneria and Mervyn Westfield were arrested following allegations of spot-fixing during a Pro40 win against

South Africa's statistical record for positive tests remains the most alarming, with 10 bans for steroid use and eight for stimulants since Dr Ismail Jakoet, chairman of the South African Rugby Union's medical committee, set out on a drug-busting mission in his country in 1992. The Springbok lock Johann Ackerman remains the highest profile, having received a two-year ban after being found with traces of a steroid in his system in 1996, but South Africa is now regarded as the squeaky clean member of rugby union's world family.

The president of the South Africa Sports Medicine Association claims there is “massive abuse” of anabolic steroids among high school rugby players. Dr Jon Patricios said that he consults with at least a dozen parents every month about steroid issues involving their children. He sees a lot of competitive pressure among high school athletes to succeed in the sport.

He said parents were increasingly complaining of finding steroids in their sons’ possession, adding: “Some say they can’t believe the sudden changes in the size (of their sons).”

“There’s a big emphasis on making it into the Craven Week sides. If you don’t make it into Craven Week, you are really lost in the rugby wilderness, because there are no prospects of bursaries and selection for provincial teams.”

“A pupil told me that half of the first-team rugby squad at his school were on steroids.”

Dr. Patricios comments come after anti-doping tests uncovered a relatively high rate of illegal steroid use among high school students at eighteen of South Africa’s top schools. Twenty-one out of 130 students tested positive for at least one anabolic steroid. Twelve of these students were busted with anabolic steroids in their possession

Approximately 60% of the positive test results involved students involved in competitive sports such as rugby; the other 40% involved students who use steroids primarily to improve physical appearance.

Drug Detection International in Johannesburg was commissioned to collect the samples; forensic analysis was done at a laboratory in the United States.

Unfortunately, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and the corresponding national anti-doping organization, the South African Institute for Drug-Free Sports (SAIDFS), are spearheading efforts to tackle the problem of steroid use among high school students. Rather than focus on steroid education and harm reduction initiatives, WADA and SAIDFS are pushing for greater steroid testing in high schools (paid for by increased public funding).

match fixing in soccer is not uncommon so this incident is not isolated or in the deep end of the pool with these types of shannigans, but it does paint an unflattering picture.

but that article about SA students on steroids is very interesting, especially with high profile Springbok johan goosen amongst know steroid users. i am wondering more and more about that u20s team now, but only wondering and nothing else,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, o_O

All Black NZ

Both the articles posted are OLD NEWS.   At least in SA they are honest enough to study problems and deal with it in the public arena.   And people get punished when they transgress.   I am not aware of any studies being done in New Zealand on substance abuse - so that the matter is conveninetly not brought to public attention and consequently hushed up.   

By the way there was no real matchfixing involved in the Cronje saga.   What he did was to tell the bookies the bowling order and started up with real surprising bowling decisions and the bets was on that.   The results were not affected as SA in India won the series comprehensively.   Just for your info - matchfixing means where results of matches are fixed.    Ask Bryce Lawrence - he can give excellent advice on high it is done.  Ask Campbell about how much the Germans pay him to switch votes on FIFA decision on the siting of the WC.   The real bigtime crooks are those mentioned in this paragraph.

I think this is an unsavoury discussion not at all applicable to rugby and not suitable for this Board - so let in the spirit of goodwill stop this mudslinging exercise and forget it ever was raised. 

 Mike's logic, no studies of substance abuse in NZ equals evidence of hushed up substance abuse in NZ...I love how your best defense of Johan Goosen's ban for substance abuse is to go on the offensive at NZ Rugby...I think you may be missing the point again you dumb brick

 johan goosen to my knowledge has never taken steroids, or at least not consciously. It was a vitamin drink with a banned substance that the idiot medical team gave to him. Same thing happened with Chilly Boy 2 years ago on the end of the year bok tour. It is the medical team who know the ingrediants, some of which are not even listed on the outsice of the bottle. 

There is plenty steroids floating around in school boy rugby in SA. Studies dont need to prove that..Just hang around the teams and you will see but come on Kiwi's. Dont be naive. There is just as much steroids floating around your school boys set up as their is ours. I can bet you any money you want. Steroids are exceptionally easy to get your hands on in NZL. If you are big in to the gym scene and regularly hang around the supplement stores, you will know this too. You can not tell me your school boys dont know this. SA and NZL. Different countries, same passion for rugby, same steps taken to be the best. I promise you! Positions within rep teams are so tough to get with the level of competition around that you need to be better, bigger and faster than the rest.

I challenge NZL to conduct the research we have. They know about it but choose to throw a blanket over it and not dent their rep. SA is actively doing something about it. Just watch that boy Ardie Savea. Huge talent on the flank for Wellington but still under 90kgs. What will happen next with him is he will be found wanting in Super rugby and realise this is no ITM cup. He will be phased out the team and 2014 he will come back 8 - 10kg's heavier. How will he do this? Thats if he hasn't already started in the off season already.

Your boys are just as big as ours and you cant say its chicken and pasta! Moving away from the school boys, Jonah Lomu was a known steroid user and this comes from people who went to school with him. He was not nearly as big in his school days and suddenly had amazing gains in the space of months!

Absoloute horseshit...don't tar our schoolboy rugby with the same filthy steroid abusing brush you lot have

Here it is on display again. An inferiority complex from fans of the, wait for it............ BEST team in the world. You guys need serious help.

Remarkable spelling of the word absolute poi-e. You must have been a spelling-bee champ at school whilst all your friends were in the playground shooting gear (street name for roids!)

We are not tarring anything with the same brush here. If we were, then all your age group players would be filthy rapists like that under 20 kiwi kid in Cape Town. Roger Randle..Its endless...

We are merely saying, look further than your noses and stop kidding yourselves! SA is just brave enough to attack the problem. 1st step to getting help is admitting there is a problem. Denial is no good and probably one of the reasons NZL has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. They find it easier to throw a blanket over their issues and paint this image of a perfect country when in fact, they have the same problems any country has.

The government here is very crooked contrary to beliefs, SA is just more open about it. Crime here in NZL is simply not as bad as SA because in NZL there is the dole or benefits. Take that away (like in SA) and crime would sky rocket here. More violent than SA and its getting worse by the day here..Just the other day in Wellington a journalist was murdered by two thugs for his wallet..They were let go free of charge despite cctv footage and an admission..Amazing!!Hey, when u hungry u gota eat! Now I am gona sign off ala Beeno...Boklogic just schooling the kiwi's on whats really happening in their world and asking them to remove the blinkers!

poi-e

You are not a dumb brick - you are a clueless idiot.   We do scientific evaluation of matters in South Africa - and the findings are regularly published.   In New Zealand they don't do it and then claim there are no problems.     In SA we test players and come up with real results - in New Zealand they hush it up.   Then suddenly players like Lomu develop serious health problems directly stemming from steroid abuse - and the real reason is not given.

Mike, read my comment above...Sums it up well. They prefer not to address the issues as they scared their perfectly painted portrait will become this massive smudge on a page! Their politicians just the other day managed to get a chinese criminal a passport yet good folk are revoked every day. Their Prime Minister is regularly caught associating with the wrong people or matters and its hushed...Let me tell you, only thing really saving this place is the benefit...People dont need to kill with all these freebies yet they still do...

Now I will get the kiwi's saying go home then and all the rest but I never said I hate the place. I like it here but people need to realise that no place in this world is without its problems. A lot of SA's problems are circumstantial and circumstances that NZL might never experience. We are all human beings at the end of the day and with that, there will always be good people and not so good people. Its not like SA has all the criminals and NZL has all the good guys coz we all know the Aussies have all the criminalks..Kidding, seriously though, stop attacking us on matters in SA because I can assure you, NZL has problems of its own. Much of the same problems in fact... I can comment on this as I have seen both sides of the fence first hand. When last was every first xv schoolboy in NZL tested. Do it..U will be surprised at the findings!

Brycy quite  a nice but foolish try for an amateur wind up artist. However we have no problem at all in admitting corruption in soccer or re this most unfortunte government we have. The latter s corruption is legendary so its hardly surprising their cadres in football are the same.

No, as Mike so ably pointed out at least we investigate  these things. In nz its all cover up stuff and brazenly so. Here we have Bl and paddy chucked out by the IRB and BL voted nz ref of the year . That has to be the most amazing and utterly BRAZEN COVER UP IN HISTORY. BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Doubtless the kiwis use of banned substances would make Lance Armstrong blush. But the only response one ever gets from kiwi bird brains is denials!

Hahahahahahahahaha how unfortuntate for the kiwis that ou brycy so foolishly started this thread! Brycy lacks common sense but at least he tries. Hahahahhahahahahaha

Ah spelling corrections, the last bastion for those who can't make a decent point.

More absolute horseshoe, yet another example of the heads being buried in the sand from SA fans....despite evidence of corruption and rampant steroid abuse the problem is NZ's for not producing more studies on our players...hmmm maybe, just maybe it's because our rugby's clean...Chilli boy, Bjorn Bassoon, Johan Goosen, not their fault right...

Oh and Canrugby do kindly Fuck off, if you're happy to sit by and not comment when sticks get thrown at NZ rugby don't get precious when NZ fans throw a couple back..

poooo until the bl affair is invetigated and nz come clean re their refs and illegal play ala mcaaaaw you will unfortuntatly not have a good reputation.

Two banned players on tour and a bad brawl  have further tarnished you reputation which lies in tatters.

I do hope the kiwis will at long last realise their game has to be cleaned up as they are becoming the pariahs of world rugby! Alas how sad all this is.

Now pooo instead of bleating away like this you should be coming up with suggstions as to how the kiwis can rebuild their battered image. Any ideas?

 Oh look, yet another 'hey look at me' post from Baboon-ou...

Put on your thinking cap pooo. Its not so hard. I mean how about not brawling in pubs. See its easy - there are so many things you could do! Hahahahahahaha

 Seriously, is there anything more pitiful then someone laughing at their own shit jokes...

pooo cheer up it cant get worse! hahahhahaha

 Dude, Baboon-ou, you're first hand evidence that it can....

Nice one pooo now please relax - ou brycy by now thinks he is a master wind up artist when he is only an amateur.

 Poo, take your head out of your arse man..Maybe, just maybe your rugby is clean...Ha ha so SA has some big guys and we take roids but NZL guys are just naturally monsters? Please man. Dont talk until your boys are ready to be tested! Let me tell you, every rugby playing nation in the world has the same problems. Performance enhancement. Its all over the show and NZL is no different..In fact your boys are probably the world leaders!

"Oh and Canrugby do kindly Fuck off, if you're happy to sit by and not comment when sticks get thrown at NZ rugby don't get precious when NZ fans throw a couple back.."

This is the same Canrugby who didn't say a peep for all the months (or was it years?) that Moffie attacked, belittled, bullied and insulted Saffex and then . . . when Moffie got pwned (mostly his own doing, I hardly even helped) in the most embarrassing way possible, Canrugby started squealing at me that I was being ugly to his precious master Moffie. The guy's hypocrisy is almost unbelievable.

Always hilarious watching you Kiwi chaps give Baboon-ou yet another beating . . . especially seeing as the delusional fool doesn't realize he's being humiliated! LOL!

 That's funny Boklogic, because I was under the impression that WADA regularly tests professional athletes, in fact I'm pretty sure it was those tests that tripped up your last two drug cheats, Chilli and Bjorn....but NZ are world leaders right?

Hi there jallopy - what is really hilarious is your being unable to admit you are rooitwit! Bwahahahahaha

When will you muster up the courage? 

What a sorry state of affairs Bean Brain....Seems things are going from bad to worse for you mate... first matchfixing and rampant steroid abuse then after all the chest beating you get yr butt kicked by our woefully understrength cricket team..haha how embarrassing for you mate or did you guys rig the game like all the soccer matches...never mind Bean Brain we know yr not all druggies although boklogshit sounds like he might be a filthy dealer i think...

Brycy

There is one consolation in SA and that is that crooks ALWAYS gets caught out and ALWAYS gets punished.   Is that the case in New Zealand?

However, I do believe that abuse is rife in schools and has been for years.   There was one particular case which really shocked me and without giving the name I want to tell you what happened.   I think it was in fact in 1987 - 88.   The guy involved was built like Apollo and he was the guy most admired by the girls at the relevant college - their panty strings broke when they saw him.   

He was the top rugby player for his college as well.   One of his teammates told me that he was on a mixture of steroids and cocaine as part of his body building programme.   That combination was really diabolical - for instance, being drugged he would not realize when he injured his muscles,

Be it as it may - the next year he went to the army and when I saw him again - he was very thin - still muscular, but definitely only a shadow of what he was before.   All that - because in the army he did not have access to steroids and cocaine.    

If that happens then - what is going on nowadays?   It is an international problem - not only confined to rugby - but other sports as well.   Look at cycling and at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney - the most drug-infested Olympic Games ever.    In essence this is obviously the result of professional sport and the huge financial benefits attached to sport on the highest levels. 

New Zealand should not sweep this issue under the carpet - they should have scientific studies done and if necessary implement measures to reduce the impact of drug useage on school and other levels.     There is no ways that it would not happen in New Zealand - since it is rife in all other countries where professionalism in sport is a major issue.

Incidentally - the officials of SAFA named by FIFA in their report was suspended within two days from the receipt of the report and legal processes as to their dismissals are under way.    Your headine is bullshit - this has nothing to do with the WC at all - so please make topics clear.