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Confirmed - Jones ditched Stormers

Started by clevermike12 REPLIES242 VIEWS· 20 Nov 2015, 10:09
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2015, 10:09
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20 Nov 2015, 10:09#1
The following from News24:-
"Western Province Rugby has agreed terms with the Rugby Football Union which will see Eddie Jones depart to take on an international coaching post with England.

There has been plenty of speculation about Jones's future ever since his arrival in Cape Town earlier this month and he officially received an offer on Wednesday which proved impossible to turn down.


"While this is very disappointing for us all at WP Rugby and the Stormers, Eddie is quite clearly the most sought-after coach in world rugby and this is the biggest and most lucrative job in international rugby," said Western Province Rugby Football Union president, Thelo Wakefield.


"Despite all the speculation since the World Cup, and given what he achieved with Japan during RWC 2015, Eddie came to us on Wednesday with an offer from the RFU, which was simply impossible for any coach to turn down.


"It's a big pity to lose Eddie before he has even had an opportunity to make his mark here but you cannot keep someone against his will, whilst also competing with the richest rugby union at the same time," said Wakefield.


Jones will assist Western Province Director of Rugby Gert Smal with on-field preparation and planning in December, with Smal now overseeing the team's off-season programme.

"Of course it is not ideal to lose your coach before you have even begun your pre-season campaign in earnest... we are well aware of that," said Wakefield.

Looking ahead, Director of Rugby, Smal, added: "For now, I will oversee the team's off-season preparations. The assistant coaches, management team and playing body remain unaffected and all planning is in place.


"Amazingly enough I have already had contact from some big-name coaches (this week) and I will, once again, look both internally and externally before continuing to plot the way ahead for WP Rugby and the Stormers."


Jones commented: "When I was appointed at WP Rugby there was no vacancy within the RFU and I never envisaged this opportunity to come forward. So while I am excited about the opportunity to coach England - in arguably the biggest international coaching job in world rugby - I'm very disappointed to be leaving the Stormers.

"I remain very grateful to WP Rugby for this opportunity and I would sincerely like to apologise to anyone that might have been affected by my sudden decision to leave Cape Town - the WPRFU Executive Committee, the WP Rugby Board of Directors, my fellow coaches, the players, the union's stakeholders and The Faithful, all of whom have treated me so well in my short stay.


"And while it might sound like lip-service to some I am absolutely convinced that the talent amongst the coaching and playing staff here will continue to see Western Province excel at all levels in the future."


The Stormers are currently in the conditioning phase of their off-season programme, with the players training until mid-December before taking a proper pre-season holiday.

The squad will reconvene for pre-season training in early January 2016, with the Stormers' 2016 Super Rugby season getting underway against the Bulls on February 27."


It is no use to go back and cry about the loss of Eddie Jones - he would have made a huge difference to Stormers Rugby - but it is time to move on.  I highlighted the paragraph above dealing with the replacement of Jones.


One would assume that the offers came from various coaches and I hoe that those include Mitchell, Plumtree and Deans.   There are no SA coaches other than Ackerman worthy of consideration.  I think that Smal is probably working on a shortlist for interviewing and that the matter will be settled within the next three weeks - allowing for the replacement coach to deal with the Stormers progeamme from mid-January.    

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
20 Nov 2015, 10:39
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20 Nov 2015, 10:39#2
 Pretty poor form from Jones end. If you make a commitment, you should be expected to follow through. But it seems money talks. Mitchell could be good. Although he failed at international level with the Abs. Mike do you think the Stormers can be a threat in Super Rugby next year?
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
20 Nov 2015, 10:39
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20 Nov 2015, 10:39#3

 ...yup they're saying Jones would rather pay 100k than coach Bean Brains hapless lot - no disputing they're just too much of a basket case ...now not only is this hapless team without a prayer but also without a coach...

..rumour has it a Kiwi coach will come in and kick their yarpy butts into shape - a kiwi specialty kicking yarpy butt of course..

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2015, 11:11
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20 Nov 2015, 11:11#4
 Luke
The Stormers has probably the best Tight 5 combination in Super Rugby - but other than De Allende their backline was BS in capital letters.   They were for years the worst try scoring side in Super 15 as a result.  
The hope was that Jones would have the guts to get risk of dubious players like De Jongh and Leyds and get a decent flyhalf into the picture.  Personally I do not think the two 7's specialists (Senatla and Kolbe) are not physical enough to play Super Rugby - and their replacement would benefit the Stormers backline.
From what I have seen of young Robert du Preez at flyhalf - he is a vast improvement on Catrakillis - but not the top flyhalf they need yet.    However, the Stormers had some very good youngsters in the WP Under 21 team and one of the guys that will no doubt come through is EW Viljoen - likely at full back.  
Problem is that De Allende has been drafted into the 7's squad and that is a negative insofar as the Stormers is concerned.   It is likelythat th move was made to counter SB Williams in the NZ' 7's squad and since he will oppose Williams it is likely he will do to Williams what he did in Super Rufby - ie making him (Williams) look silly in the process.           
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lunaticClub Pro305 posts
20 Nov 2015, 11:44
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20 Nov 2015, 11:44#5
 Jones, like most people, will go where the money is.  We see this from many professional sports people both players and/or coaching and admin staff.  Very, very few of us would stick with our current jobs if we are offered a job four times the salary.  Jones did what he did for reasons he will be able to give, but why coach a mediocre regional side if you could have a chance at coaching a prestigious national team - one of the top teams in the Northern Hemisphere? And especially if you are nearing the twilight period of your coaching career.
We are not privy to the actual content and discussions of Jones' contract with the Cape based franchise, thus all discussion would be based on assumption - however the actions and behaviour of Jones does not look good in the eyes of the public, and especially so if you are a Stormers supporter (and maybe even for a few England supporters) .
Let's hope for Jones' sake he did not jump out of the frying pan into the fire!   
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2015, 11:59
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20 Nov 2015, 11:59#6
 For ou rooitwit and my good friend brycy to note:So while I am excited about the opportunity to coach England - in arguably the biggest international coaching job in world rugby - I'm very disappointed to be leaving the Stormers. (Just as Beeno said!!)

And while it might sound like lip-service to some I am absolutely convinced that the talent amongst the coaching and playing staff here will continue to see Western Province excel at all levels in the future." (Well with backs like ours I doubt it but lets see what the final squad looks like and who the new coach is.)

LUNATIC NO COACH IN THE WORLD CAN TURN DOWN COACHING ENGLAND FOR A SUPER 15 FRANCHISE. He would be a lunatic if he did. Bwahahhahahahahaha
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2015, 12:00
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20 Nov 2015, 12:00#7
 Hey JW Lunatic has an avatar that would make you proud!
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lunaticClub Pro305 posts
20 Nov 2015, 12:12
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20 Nov 2015, 12:12#8
 There is an echo in here - some folk like attention and would thus paraphrase any logical statement to make it seem as if they have had some form of epiphany, sadly the world mostly just frowns upon them.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2015, 12:22
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20 Nov 2015, 12:22#9
 So lunatic you speak for the world do you. Interesting form of neurosis!
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Nov 2015, 12:29
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20 Nov 2015, 12:29#10
Lunatic (in this case I am not referring to Beeno although he certainly is one), good to read your posts.
Beeno, Jones' nice words don't disguise his actions, he took one look at the stormers & booked a flight for the rain soaked land of the Poms; he traded a pair of sunglasses for an umbrella, galoshes & a rubber duck
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lunaticClub Pro305 posts
20 Nov 2015, 13:08
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20 Nov 2015, 13:08#11
 Beeno1
 
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November 20, 2015, 12:22:41

 So lunatic you speak for the world do you. Interesting form of neurosis!


Above is a perfect example of a totally illogical and irrelevant answer to a post. It bears no resemblance to the post it endeavours to comment on, made only in an effort to sound intelligent and to try to get some attention focused on the author.  You have failed my friend, just as you fail in covering your veiled snotty answer in the Jonah thread and as your various failed attempts at trying to defend your version of Christianity.  The biggest issue with you and your "Christianity" is that you are in total paradox to what your Christ teaches and wishes his followers to be.  You are so full of yourself and your warped opinions it is sickening.  If this is the perfect example of a Christian then I can understand the growing numbers of Atheists in the world as you are clearly not doing the Faith any favours with the way in-which you behave (as your answer hereto will once again prove)
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Nov 2015, 18:34
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20 Nov 2015, 18:34#12
This immediately makes England a bigger threat at the next world cup. They had a few good young players at the WC that would have learnt a lot from the experience IE what happens when you fall. Would be good for England to turn out a decent team again. Maybe the timing is right for them. They've had some cracking players in the past. Still we await the Meyer decision though. I wonder if the public has made enough noise for Meyer to be sacked? Man I hope so. It hearts my heart to know that other countries are getting Eddie and we might keep Meyer. I'm starting a collection box to take out a hit on Meyer. My nephew says he can hire a contract killer on the dark Web. I believe him. NO NO NO! Don't send me all your money. Easy now. I was kidding.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
21 Nov 2015, 02:01
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21 Nov 2015, 02:01#13
 Plum that's irresponsible thing to say in light of what is happening around the world lately. Meyer is a gentleman unlike Jones and Jake.
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