Dave JJ is finally the world's best.....

Moz maybe you should try catch a wake up......I'm not going to say much more than ask you whether I have selected him to start in any of my sides this year? Huh
As for when JJ played for the Boks, as his highlights footage confirms, he was outstanding for the Boks......his game against the Kiwi's was the best we have seen from a Bok 13 in years.
The way your hero Meyer treated him confirms just how poor Meyer is......there is no surprise we lost 4 of our 9 major tests last year......this is a product of a poor coach.......a coach who thinks like you do.
Hope this clears things up for you unless you can find a Bok side I have selected this year that has JJ at 13......Meyer killed JJ off......he has long lost his mojo......no surprises that he is off to Japan.
You are such easy pickings as always

JJ is a wing and we should all realise this. He is being wasted at 13! The mind boggles that this elementary fact is still not seen by some folk. One swallow does nt make a summer ou snapster. 
What was pleasing was the excellent debut by Kriel. He and Allende were excellent.Should Jean fully recover our centers should come from Allende, Jan, Jean, Kriel, Vorster and Mapoe.

 JJ was a tragedy in 2013. Another man who can run fast but can't play rugby. How unfortunate. This oaf was getting bounced well before the RC of the aforementioned year. His All Black test was a flop. 

Once a dud...always a dud. Class act my ass!  

 Mozart
At this stage it is unfortunate that we should rather forget about Frans Steyn, Jacques Fourie  and even Jean de Villiers - who withdrew himself from the Springbok squad to play CC rugby to become match-fit and get his confidence back.   Your assessment of Vorster is as sick as your assessment of De Allende was and as poor as your favourite two center selection of Fat Fransie and  Fatter Jacque have been,

Tokkie why not Jordaan?  

Mozart
Because Jordaan had no rugby since October last year and I am not stupid like you to punt non-performers for selection.   Comprehende.

Oh you are most definitely stupid enough. Stupid enough to tell me that Morne lost a test that was level when he was subbed, and where his replacement had a hand in two tries. I would say not only stupid, but dishonest. Stupid enough to actually think you could get away with such a ridiculous assertion and dishonest enough to conceive of the idea in the first place. 

 Desert Disaster
You are the complete idiot on this site.  Morne missed 5 kicks at goal in the Dunedin test - most of them sitters - and that would have had a major impact on the outcome of the match.   He was subbed because of those misses and the fact that his kicking out of hand was piss-poor as well - so much so that in the case of two such kicks the commentators - even on the air - called those kicks BS.
That was why he was subbed and the two tries story is BS in extreme as well.   Look idiot before writing things on this site check what really happened on the field of play and be logical.
We also have the famous Perth test last year when Morne was the sole reason for the loss of the test.   So what else can we deduce from your misguided musings based on dishonesty and misrepresentations. 
But then - what can one expect from a person who attacks a player for performance in a match that never took place - now that is real stupidity and dishonesty.
You are a joke you know.     

Moz, you found any teams I have selected this year with JJ at 13 for the Boks?
Your post has fallen flat on its face.

 So, Morne lost us the Dunedin test becaus he did not leave Goosen a safety net before he was subbed........

 Yes Cera. Test are lost by not taking opportunities and Morne was poor on the day and we would probably have won if not for missing all those kicks. There were some other screw ups by the rest of the team, but Morne's had the biggest impact on the result. That being said, other than the majority of rugby punters, I do believe Morne should be part of the Bok setup as our no. 2 FH. Lambie should be utility back off the bench...at best. Lots of players have bad days. Morne had 2. Big deal, he deserves to be a bok.From yesterday's game, it is clear that Jannie and JP does n ot deserve to be there anymore. 

 Morne's kicking collapsed in the Dunedon test and we lost atest we should hve won comfortably. Frans also missed a few as well.
I did observe at the tim ethere could well have been ball tampering. Some kicks were headed slap between the poles and as the got near veered away!!!  One day the truth about this might emmerge and it wouldnt surprise me at all that foul play was being perpertated by the kiwis yet again. 

Morne has always been profoundly useless....has never been a test standard rugby player....not even close. Had he been a Kiwi he would not have smelt a single test cap.
They don't select talentless players who's only strength is the ability to kick a ball.
Utterly useless player who's selection epitomises the conservatism of our useless coaches.
Lambie, Pollard, Jantjies and Goosen are twice the players 

JJ was playing very well on the wing down here before the bulle, seeing his class, snapped him up. Unfortunately the bulle blundered yet again and tried to turn him into a center!! Okay experimenmtation is fine but one needs to be able to spot that it is not working.Nothing wrong with Jan, Vorster and Mapoe. Vorster looks like a class young center - great feet and nice pace and over100 kg. To dismiss him out of hand is daft. Mapoe is apretty solid player and has performed well for the Lions against good test class opposition.One other plkayer who has been missed is Van Wyk who by all accounts was a center before moving to the wing. 
Dr M ozzzzz very off the pace re our center stock. 

JJ was fine at 13 in fact at times he was bloody great....look no further than his performance against NZ....in particular his sublime beating of Savea.....something we have not witnessed from a Bok 13 in the last decade.
JJ's move to 13 was a good call....we now just need to wake to making the same call on v/Wyk of WP.

 Ceradunce
Hell you are dense and more so than ever.  Lets look at the following:-
"So, Morne lost us the Dunedin test because he did not leave Goosen a safety net before he was subbed."
Morne missed FIVE KICKS at goal and his kicking out of hand was equally atrocious.  The blame put on Goosen for losing that test is utter and unadulterated BS.  There were other rubbish as well in that test.  Kirchner cost us a try by being totally out of position.  Have you forgotten about Greyling - his sh!t display - including a yellow card and a few other misfits - including the fat and useless Francois Steyn.
Beeno is right when he said that point opportunities should be used - not the way Morne Steyn squandered them.   Because of that we lost a test we should have won.   Morne spells disater for teams he plays in - because he is clueless about decision-making.
One wonders at times how the three Village Idiots on this site manage to make false deductions about what happens in matches and then entertain us all with there weird conclusions.   Happy idiots day to you - you thoroughly deserve that.     

Despite Morne's five missed kicks, we were still level on score....... and then Goosen came on. The same Goosen who cannot even make the bench for his club in France.  

 Ceradunce
The thing is we would have had a good lead if the dense Morne converted those sitter kicks - he missed them all.  However, what was further true is that Morne throughout 2012 sh!t poor - his normal self.   You should know something about rugby before commenting on rugby issues.   Why do you think Morne was benched in the Funedin test in any event?  Because he was so poor.
By the way the issue of Goosen at Racing Metro has nothing to do with your mad ideas - you really knows nothing about it.   If Goosen was that bad would Racing metro not be happy to release him from his contract - like Stade Francais tried unsuccessfully with Morne Steyn - unsuccessful because nobody was stupid enough to fall for it.
    

Uhm Goosen has received an ultimatum in no uncertain terms. What was it his coach said again.......? He has a three year contract and if he doesn't pull himself together, he might not be around in the third year.  
Your idea of Stade Francais wanting to get rid of Morne is just another of your typical BS stories. You have, to this day, not been able to provide anything of substance to support your fantasy. In fact, both Morne and his club denied the rumour. 
As far as your fantasy about Plisson and Morne goes.......... Maybe SF was wrong to prefer Plisson after all. Plisson was one of the main reasons why SF had to settle for playing in the 2nd tier European competition. They were plodding along in the Top14 until Plisson got injured and then ended up winning the competition. 

Don't waste your breath. You may as well be communicating in groans and grunts for what it's worth.

 Ceradunce
I had a chat with Meyer Bosman's mother - Meyer was with her for the past ten days and he must have told her a few things since the SA players in Paris regularly communicate with each other.
The Goosen issue had nothing to do with Goosen's rugby playing - it had to do with the fact that he is making too slow progress in learning to speak French and according to the Club Management was unacceptable.   She said that the other story about him not attending training sessions was totally untrue and dreamt up by a reporter.   She also confirmed that Goosen's wife found it very difficult to settle down in Paris - but is now adjusting better.
All in all - if Racing Metro was so unsatisfied with Goosen they would have released from his contract - and your interpretation of a "threat" is BS.   The only reason for the release of Goosen after another year will entirely be determined by his progress in French - nothing to do with his rugby issue.
Your story about Morne and POlisson is utter tripe.   Morne earlier this year was as poor as he was in the tests last year.   He got lucky and got some games when Plisson was injured.   He managed to be accurate in goal kicking - the rest of his performance in both his latest games were BS.   His defense was as normal with him more than half his attempted tackles - also standard with Morne.
Anybody rating Morne Steyn as a good flyhalf must have his head read.   Plisson being the reason for Stade Francais plodding along while Morne made a difference  was the biggest load of rubbish I have read for a long time.   Morne is the real flyhalf that would turn any backline into plodders 
By the way there were newspaper reports that Stade Francais was trying to off-load Morne and it was clear nobody else wanted him.   I am glad for his sake he has a third year in Stade Francais because nobody else would want him near their team - he is too poor - and a third year should boost his back balance further.            
  

 You have nothing to back up the BS that you are spreading Ou Tokkie. Nothing. Meyer Bosman's mother said.......... What utter crap 

He makes a whole lot of tosh up. Acting as though he is the confidante of South African rugby, the man' s vanity knows no bounds. Wherever there is a murky grey area to operate, he will be there. Most often that can be found on scrum.com.

 I just love the rubbish the three idiots dish up on this site.  If they get nowhere with their BS arguments - they get personal.  What is for sure the three combined has the knowledge about a parakeet about rugby.
They can concoct rubbish and are not shamed to spread it on this site.   There rugby comments on matches they have not seen or in the case of a rugby match that never took place - tell everyone what you can expect from the three village idiots.
However, what I enjoy is playing with them like puppets on a string and then see what they come up with.   It is amusing to see how they turn lies in their little minds into truths and then together swear it is true.   The absence of logic is also another cause for mirth.
Anybody who rates Morne Steyn, Fat Francois Steyn,  Fatter Willem Alberts and Ouma Victoria Matfield as good rugby players must have a sense of humour or a fatal shortage of rugby knowledge.   It is fun to play with them and see what rubbish they concoct in the process.      

By the way Desert Disaster did you not concoct the story that Mermoz is a monster that would savage De Allende?    
        

 Mozart


Stupid comments - but really funny.   The recipes sent to Frans must have been unhealthy and fattening - because he could hardly walk because he was so fat when coming back to SA from France.  Ask her also to send the recipes to Fat Willem - he would really bring her great glory - Fat already he would get fatter still.
Is Fat one of your requirements for selection to the Springbok team?  You also favoured jacque Fourie who was gross when he turned up at the Springbok training camp?   You love players with boepense it seems?     

Tokkie if I like people with boep  pense you would be top of the pops given your photo. It's never too late to slim down. 

 Neither is it too late for Fat Fransie, Fatter Jacque and Gross Willem to slim down.   
And I do regard you as a friend and actually like you despite our so-called disagreements on this site.  

"They can concoct rubbish and are not shamed to spread it on this site."

Morne Steyn...... Paris Saint Germain. Bakkies Botha...... Ali Williams. 

Stupid was blaming Yoko Goosen for Gooses failings on and off the pitch. But maybe you know Goosen's father, who happened to tell you these things. Of course *rolls eyes*

 Desert Disaster
You are the supreme idiot - do you understand anything in life?   A chap got married - his wife has problems in settling down in Paris (fact) and according to you it is weird that it has a negative impact on his state of mind and his work situation and you cxan joke about it.  
Not only a rugby ignoramus - also a piece of sh!t in all other respects.    

Moz insulting your boep again Mike! Next he'll whip up the "yo momma" insults! Top class Moz!!