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Depth to burn seven of the best

Started by Saffolk 43 REPLIES439 VIEWS· 03 Dec 2014, 15:15
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:15
#1
03 Dec 2014, 15:15#1

We need a new Bok coach who is open to recognising and embracing the ridiculous depth in quality young talent we have at our disposal. Lets ignore the over 30 year olds as they don't lend themselves to long term investment.....that does not mean they are excluded from selection right now.


Teams in order:


A Team


15. Willie 14. JP 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Senatla 10. Pollard 9. Hougaard 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Marcel v/d Merwe 4. Willemse 5. Etzebeth 6. Coetzee 7. Arno Botha 8. Vermeulen



B Team


15. Taute 14. Sithole 13. de Allende 12. Frans 11. v/Wyk 10. Goosen 9. Reinach 1. T. du Toit 2. Strauss 3. Coenie 4. Lood 5. PSDT 6. Brussouw 7. CJ Stander 8. Mtembu



C Team


15. Jessie Kriel 14. Rhule 13. Hanekom 12. Esterhuizen 11. Jordaan 10. Lambie 9. Faf de Klerk 1. Kitshoff 2. Cooper 3. Malherbe 4. Jean Kleyn 5. Jacques du Plessis 6. Carr 7. Elstadt 8. v/d Walt



D Team


15. SP Marais 14. v/d Heever 13. Pat Howard 12. Mnisi 11. Kolbe 10. Jantjies 9. v/Zyl 1. S. v/d Merwe 2. Visagie 3. Nkanyane 4. Jandre Marais 5. Lewies 6. Kolisi 7. Labascagne 8. Whiteley



E Team


15. Coetzee 14. Hendricks 13. Tyler Fisher 12. Frans Venter 11. Skosan 10. Boshoff 9. Groom 1. Mellett 2. Scara 3. Maks v/Dyk 4. Peet Marais 5. Ruan Botha 6. Kriel 7. Oupa 8. Rhodes



F Team


15. Visser 14. Mapoe 13. Sadie 12. Odendaal 11. de Jongh 10. Catrakllis 9. Luithers 1. Kebble 2. Coetzee 3. Redelinghuis 4. Quinn Roux 5. Mostert 6. Louw 7. Ettienne Oosthuizen 8. Ross



G Team


15. Beyers 14. Mvovo 13. Rohan Janse v/Rensburg 12. Watermeyer 11. Sergal Petersen 10. Swiel 9. Schrauder 1. Cayleb Oosthuizen 2. Ackers 3. Dreyer 4. Bresler 5. Carl Wegner 6. Schoeman 7. Hattingh 8. Britz  



H Team


15. EW Viljoen 14. JP du Plessis 13. Heimar Williams 12. Vortser 11. Mjekevu 10. Coleman 9. Paige 1. Chadwick 2. Mbonambi 3. Rossouw de Klerk 4. Bullbring 5. Bernado 6. Whimpie v/d Walt 7. Minnie 8. Prinsloo 


 

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:45
#2
03 Dec 2014, 15:45#2
Jurgen Visser  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:48
#3
03 Dec 2014, 15:48#3
 Damn I forgot him, have amended
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:52
#4
03 Dec 2014, 15:52#4
 Trevor Nyakane was good this year 
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:56
#5
03 Dec 2014, 15:56#5
Bjorn Basson  
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 15:57
#6
03 Dec 2014, 15:57#6

Bongani Mbonemi

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:01
#7
03 Dec 2014, 16:01#7
Lourens Adriaanse  
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:02
#8
03 Dec 2014, 16:02#8
An ton Bresler 
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:04
#9
03 Dec 2014, 16:04#9

Johan Sadie

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:04
#10
03 Dec 2014, 16:04#10

Boom Prinsloo

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:06
#11
03 Dec 2014, 16:06#11
Sh aun Venter 
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:08
#12
03 Dec 2014, 16:08#12
Ross Cronje  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:14
#13
03 Dec 2014, 16:14#13
Geez I wouldn't have "put my money" on Dave missing one player in his new list. And it appears he has to start all over again. But I like the concept....next time we play the ABs we field 7 teams against them....damn that should cut down on that pesky open space.
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:29
#14
03 Dec 2014, 16:29#14

Shall we vote on them?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:33
#15
03 Dec 2014, 16:33#15
What in South Africa......nah, just take an executive action.  I say the team with "Vortster" would beat the rest.
Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:36
#16
03 Dec 2014, 16:36#16
  Julian Redlinghuys?

CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:37
#17
03 Dec 2014, 16:37#17
 David Searle jnr?
CL
clevermike.Club Pro177 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:38
#18
03 Dec 2014, 16:38#18
 @chippo
hahahahaha
I like that. dont think everyone will understand.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 16:53
#19
03 Dec 2014, 16:53#19
Geez I am losing it Nkanyane! !!
No man.....amended
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 17:07
#20
03 Dec 2014, 17:07#20
 Added Bresler and Sadie. The rest are not better except maybe Prinsloo and of course Minnie
Flash Redelinghuis was always in.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2014, 17:08
#21
03 Dec 2014, 17:08#21
IP Man?  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 17:14
#22
03 Dec 2014, 17:14#22
 He is the wa terboy
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Dec 2014, 19:03
#23
03 Dec 2014, 19:03#23
 Saffex
Sorry - but as fr s I know Kirsten has retired from rugby  after his neck injury.    
Fat Fransie in your B-team - have you lost your marbles?   I know Mozart has - but I did not expect the same from you.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 19:50
#24
03 Dec 2014, 19:50#24
 Um Mike you know full well I am a big Frans fan and anything you say about him is a load of rubbish.
I did look up Kirsten retiring but could not find anything other than him being advised to but I stand to be corrected.
The list of S15 movements does mention him as retired. That is a pity as he was a good young tighthead.  Dreyer would have to replace him then.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
03 Dec 2014, 20:58
#25
03 Dec 2014, 20:58#25
 Saffex, just because you can name 105 SA rugby players doesn't automatically mean you have great depth. The Bok team that has just finished it's Europe trip had a few players out at times and lost badly to Ireland and performed poorly vs Wales.I would've thought those results showed the exact opposite of what you are spouting above?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,290 posts
03 Dec 2014, 21:05
#26
03 Dec 2014, 21:05#26
Lots of depth in the forwards, but many of the backs will struggle to make the required level of SuperXV
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
03 Dec 2014, 21:22
#27
03 Dec 2014, 21:22#27
We need trials like in the old days.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2014, 21:37
#28
03 Dec 2014, 21:37#28
The trials were always great fun...unfortunately gone along with long tours. Instead we get bloodless S15 matches.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 21:40
#29
03 Dec 2014, 21:40#29
 Moola if you actually took note on here most of us are in agreement that our coach is selling us short and that the Bok side selected this year was no representation of our strength. You get the picture?
Sharktwat stop speaking crap about the backs. ...my guess us that with your rugby ignorance you don't even know who most those players are?
Every single player on that list is s15 standard with many beyond that standard. 
Tyler Fisher,  Skosan, Odendaal, Luithers for instance would not let a Bok side down
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
03 Dec 2014, 21:44
#30
03 Dec 2014, 21:44#30

The major advantage of trails were that players could be evaluated under the same playing conditions.

 

CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
03 Dec 2014, 23:11
#31
03 Dec 2014, 23:11#31
 Willem Alberts?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2014, 23:14
#32
03 Dec 2014, 23:14#32
I did not bother with the 30 odds and over as my opening states  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Dec 2014, 00:08
#33
04 Dec 2014, 00:08#33
 Dave for the record - here is a report on Kirsten:-
Bulls prop Frik Kirsten has been forced to call a premature end to his rugby career following a serious neck injury. The former Junior Springbok player suffered a neck injury in March whilst playing his 34th match for the Bulls and underwent surgery after that.  Although the surgery proved successful, medical advice was for the 26-year old player not to play rugby again.  Kirsten, who studied B.Comm (Accounting) at the University of Pretoria while playing professional rugby, graduated with an honours degree and will now pursue a career in accounting, hoping to become a chartered accountant. Xander Janse van Rensburg, High Performance Manager at the Blue Bulls, said it was sad to lose a player of Kirsten's ability, but applauded the fact that the player prepared for a career after rugby while still playing. "We continuously tell all our players, especially in our junior structures, that they should prepare themselves for situations where injuries can cut short their careers.  "Frik is a fine example of someone who continued his studies despite his rugby career and can now face the future with confidence. He will leave a massive gap as a player and leader, but his health is more important than anything else. We want to thank him for his contribution to the Bulls family of which he was part from schoolboy level up to Super Rugby. Go well Frik."  Bulls coach Frans Ludeke, who picked Kirsten for the first time in 2009, thanked the player for his dedication and contribution towards the team. "Frik was part of a great era and of the squads that won Super Rugby and Currie Cup titles. He was also called into the Springbok squad last year and had a great career ahead of him.  "It is very unfortunate to lose him now, as tighthead props are prime assets, but that is rugby and life. He will be missed, no doubt and we wish him well in his new career," Ludeke said. Kirsten thanked the Blue Bulls and his team mates.  "I had wonderful times at Loftus Versfeld and made friends for life. It was great being part of a fantastic squad who achieved many targets and milestones.  "It is not the ideal way to end the game, but I am fully focused and prepared for the new phase of my life. I will still be around, supporting my younger brother, Jannes (Blue Bulls Under-21), and the rest of the boys. Allow me to thank all the supporters as well, as they kept us on our toes and often reminded us that we also played on their behalf."
For th record further - F rabnsie was statistically and factually the worst inside center in Super 15 two years in succession.   Plumtree is right - he is not a center's arse - or perhaps he is.   He was useless in the tests in 2012 and worse eve r since.    
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Dec 2014, 00:14
#34
04 Dec 2014, 00:14#34

Ah thanks that confirms that then re Kirst en


Would that be the useless Plumtree that got sacked? 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Dec 2014, 00:52
#35
04 Dec 2014, 00:52#35
 Dave
Sure - it ws Plumtree who got fired.   However, the coach who idolizes  Fransie was also given a choice - resign or we fire you.   One reason for that was the putrid performances of the Sharks backkline kept the supporters  away from  Sharks matches  - and who was to blame for that - Fat Fransie.
We will see what Venter makes out of that one in Super 15 - my bet is a permmanent move to full back.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Dec 2014, 00:54
#36
04 Dec 2014, 00:54#36
 Mike you are speaking utter shit.....Frans is a class act always has been
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Dec 2014, 01:06
#37
04 Dec 2014, 01:06#37
WAS a class act - but for performances since 2012 - w hen he came back from France when he was anything but
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Dec 2014, 01:38
#38
04 Dec 2014, 01:38#38

Disagree he has been good since his comeback and sadly for you Venter is a big fan of Frans

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Dec 2014, 07:24
#39
04 Dec 2014, 07:24#39
 We will see - Steyn will have to adjust his playing style drastically - or he will be a goner.   
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Dec 2014, 11:38
#40
04 Dec 2014, 11:38#40
 Nope he just needs to keep doing what he does best. He needs to play a SBW role for us and has at times. Need to see more of him imposing himself physically and offloading in contact.
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