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Desert Disaster's lies exposed

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 14:48
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21 Jul 2015, 14:48#1
Here is what the stupid liar wrote about the various incidents involving De Allende and what really happened:-
 1st Half


00:12 - Aussie runs ball straight at S12 inside Wallaby 22 after kick-off from first phase. S12 positions himself to stop Attacker with inside shoulder, but cannot stop momentum of run. S6 comes in from inside S12 and stops attacker with S12 hanging on, holds him up and pushes him to ground.


This was a simultaneous tackle by De Allende by Louw and De Allende - there was no momentum and the ball-carrier went straight down.  The description of Disaster was utter BS. 

01:39 - AUS L/O, Bok territory. Wallabies run it into seam behind lineout. S12 dives inside and grabs A14 by lower leg, has little effect in the tackle as S7 downs the attacker well behind the gainline.


Perfect tackle by De Allende.  Coetzee came into the picture when Horne was already going down and there was no advance "well behind the gainline.

02:51 - SA L/O, Wallaby territory: Set Move; 11-12-13 run up flat, S13 holds his line until a moment before S10 passes, S11 and S12 begin fade out with S13 cutting in front of them back inside. S13 ends with a straight run at outside shoulder of defender and gets behind gainline. Note that in this move, S12 was the wide option to attacking the edge of the defence which is A13s outside shoulder. S13 was the straight runner into traffic.


The description was basically as indicated.  It was an angle run by Kriel and did not involve De Allende at all - nobody "faded out" 



03:05 - 3rd phase of the same sequence off previous lineout. S12 is now stationed on the short side and attacks outside shoulder of A7 near touchline. Presents quick ball for S9.


Basically correct version.


05:40 - S12 binds onto ruck offering S9 protection on ruck fringe as he clears ball on Bok 22m line.


Basically correct description

07:00 - SA Scrum. S14 at first receiver, S14 takes ball to the line with S12 running hard and flat just inside him. The decoy interchange between S14-S12 holds the drift and gives S10 a bit of space to attack out wide with S13-S15-S11 spreading out the rest of the opposition defence.



07:22 - Wallabies move the ball wide after A12 won turnover from poor S15 offload. S12 is stationed on the edge of the defence out wide. A13 runs towards S12s inside with S1 drifting and following him every step. S12 chooses to hold his position and cover A13 and leave A6 free along the touchline. A13 naturally passes long to A13 who gallops into open space making significant ground before offloading back to A13. The Wallabies are now just outside Bok 22 on the front foot.


This is utter rubbish.  De Allende had to defend against 2 players - there were no other defenders available.  Kuridrani had the ball in hand and passed it to Fardy just before reaching De Allende.  If he did not cover Kuridrani while the latter was carrying the ball - the howls of indignation would have been unending and De Allende would have been wrong.  Because he did, he did wrong according to Disaster.     


08:00 - Wallabies on the attack and use box formation in the middle of the field on 6th phase just inside of Bok 22. This ropes in the entire Bok midfield and leaves Australia with a 3 v 1 out wide. S12 is now the edge defender and scrambles out wide to cover the space. As he is running laterally, A11 steps inside him and gets in behind a tackle by S2 to take the ball deep inside Bok 22.

Another garbage description with De Allende trying to cover an overlap and Bismarck missing a tackle on the inside.  Nothing came from this attack anyway.

10:26 - AUS L/O, Bok territory. A13 targets S12s outside shoulder from first phase. S12 goes low and ankles clasps but has no effect in the tackle. A13 is put down by S13 who cuts back inside to support S12 after his failed tackle attempt. Australia on the front foot and gaining ground.


There was no failed tackle attempt - it was a perfectly good tackle with Kuridrani going down by the time Kriel got involved - the failed tackle attempt is an outright lie 

11:53 - SA Scrum; just outside 22, centre field. S8 runs it to the off the back of the scrum passes short to S9. S10 runs a hard line close to S9 to pull two defenders together. S9 passes long behind S10 to S12 who runs into acres of space with S14 along the touchline on his outside and S9 supporting him on his inside.


More or less accurate description 


14:15 - SA L/O inside Australia territory. S12 at first receiver and attempts to crash it up flat into seam behind lineout. S12 is driven backwards by A7 before Bok POD arrive to secure and clean possession.


Hooper was off-side when he ran to tackle De Allende from an off-side position.  When he tried the tackle - De Allende went backward a step - spinned out of the tackle and went forward with another Aussie player coming up to help in the tackle.  De Allende fell forward in the final tackle situation.  Penalty awarded and Pollard converted same.

16:58 - S11 brings down A13 out wide, S12 attacks ball and slows down Wallaby ball considerably before being cleared aside.


Correct description

18:45 - Wallaby attacker runs directly into S12 and looks to be breaching it on the inside but for S19 coming in and holding him up, S12 then proceeds to drive attacker laterally inside and forces him to ground eventually with S19 halting his forward movement completely.


Looks like nothing - De Allende tackled him and he went straight down.  De Jager joined up after Toomua was going down already.   

20:00 - AUS Scrum inside Bok half. A13 attacks S12s outside shoulder and drives S12 back a long way before S13 grabs the back of A13s jersey and pulls him down.


This description is weird.   Kuridrani went down in them low tackle - but fell forward -disentangling his feet from the hold of De Allende (regarded statistically as a missed tackle), but Kuridrani could do nothing with the ball as he was already surrounded by other Springboks.  No long way gained as alleged by Disaster.     

29:23 - A13 runs at S10 to hold him, S13 is ball watching and does not see A15 coming into line. A15 receives offload from A13 and he breezes past the outside of S13. S12 fans out to catch A15 but slips the tackle attempt and easily gassed.   


This is another weird description and foolish as well.   Since there is an overlap on the outside it is obvious that De Allende had to go out wider.  In that process the ball was passed to Horne that went inside.  There was no slipped tackle attempt and nobody was gassed as claimed. 


31:42 - A12 runs across the face of S12 and draws him out of his channel and pops a pass back inside before S12 smashes him to ground. Australia get well over the gainline through S12s channel and are on the front foot deep inside Bok territory.


What Disaster means here is totally unclear.  After the tackle by De Allende the Aussies lost possession of the ball -  so what happened in the De Allende channel to take them deep into Bok territory.

32:50 - AUS L/O, just outside Bok 22. A12 at first receiver fixes S10, he has A13-A10-A13 in a staggered formation with A13 leading. A13 runs a hard decoy line between S10-S12 with A10 running across the face of S12 behind A13s advance. Essentially they are running a blocker line, with A13 running a big unders line and A10 running in behind then across the face of S12 to pull him out of his channel and allow A13 to attack that space
upn receiving an inside ball from A10. This is exactly what happened. S12 should have left A10 to S13 and covered A13 and Australia would have been shutdown for, at most, minimal inches. As it was, A13 scored a crucial try because S12 was too reactive and exposed his channel yet again. Clearly Australia are concentrating on S12 as their main entry point through our defence, in this play they had three players target him on his outside and inside shoulder. Not much direct running, they are encouraging him to move and expose his channel and sendsupport runners or a concealed strike runner into that channel.


I could not make out anything from the drivel written here - bar that De Allende according to Disaster covered the wrong player and should have covered S13 and let the outside center (Kriel) cover the flyhalf.  This personal opinion cannot be sustained factually by anything in existence on the field of play.  


35:15 - A13 runs clean overs line against S12 and gets well in behind him as S12 grabs his ankles and only just disrupts his footing sending him to ground.


This is totally false - it was a very good tackle with Kuridrani going straight down. 


37:12 - Boks deep in wallaby territory, on third phase a POD is at first receiver to draw in defenders and have S12 attack the edge of that defence. A similar setup to what the Stormers have been using all season for Damian. Australians do not take the bait and instead drift out immediately to swarm S12 who cuts back inside and manages
to turn in the tackle of A2 and gain some space and momentum for that POD to secure and clean possession quickly.

This is what happened - but what is the POD?  


39:54 - S15 at first receiver on third phase. S8 runs a decoy line with S12 taking the ball deep. The Wallaby outside-in defence appears to have him well contained as A14 attempts to grab him from the outside, but over-commits and S12 breaks free and cuts outside A13s outside shoulder as A13 cuts inside to cover that space. S12 breaks that tackle and makes good ground before going to ground as A12 takes him down from behind.


Basically a correct description. 

40:57 - On 11th phase, Boks run a box formation in the middle of the field, with S12 the pocket runner. The idea is to use the forwards to hold the defenders in their channel and have S10-S12 attack the edge of the defence. Australia do not commit to the ploy - another similar setup the Stormers use to get Damian on the outside - and S10 decides to carry the ball back inside where a POD of S8-S3-S1 are on hand to secure possession.



41:16 - 14th phase, S12 is positioned on the short-side. He takes it off S9 and carries it into traffic. S2 lends a helping hand with a monstrous clear out.


Basically a correct description.

41:48 - Australia attempt a breakout from their own 22. A15 and A10 have a nice little interchange before A10 attempts a behind-the-back flick pass which floats over the top of A13. S12 is in the vicinity and gathers the loose ball and gets behind A13 and A6. A3 takes S12 by the lower leg and brings him to ground midway into Wallaby 22.


Basically a correct description.

 
2nd Half

40:40 - A13 runs at S12 and beats him cleanly breaking the attempted tackle.


This is one of the tackles missed by Dw Allende

43:47 - S12 runs off S9 and cuts inside A2 who grabs him and doesn't let him go. This is compounded further by A4 coming over the top as S12 goes to ground but he does get the ball out quickly.

Correct Version

50:45 - A13 runs it back after high ball from Boks. Defence is drifting, but S12 makes a school-boy error and turns his back to his inside, A13 darts inside S12s channel and beats S12 cleanly gaining good ground before S10 brings him to ground.


The "school boy error" story is absolute rubbish.  The defense was lined up according tow hat was happening and the implication is that De Allende must abandon his position to cover  something that could maybe have happened.  That is what can be dreamt up after the fact - and is as comments absolute BS. 


51:58 - Australia going through the phases, working the ball from side-to-side. A21-A14. S12 sees it coming and takes A14 down quickly with a nice strong hit in the mid-section.


Correct description

56:53 - A15 runs across the face of S12 back inside and beats S12 cleanly. S12 manages fingertip grasp with no effect. S4 takes A15 high and halts his charge.

Correct description - De Allende missed tackle

61:46 - Wallabies run another box formation, but with A7 attacker pulling out and the other (A1) being a decoythreatening to attack space between S10-S12. Box morphs into staggered line of 3: A12-A15-A13, with A14 stretched out wide along the touchline. A10 takes ball to line just inside S10, so S10 is being held both inside and outside and the strike runner A12 coming in behind that A1 decoy to attack space between S10-S12. The ploy is to get some separation between the two, the staggered line is condensed and the extra man causes problems. S12 is per-occupied with A15 and does not pick up A12 coming in behind A1, so he drifts too far out and leaves a space that is too great for S10 to compensate for and A12 is away. But for A15 losing control of the ball, Australia would have had a certain try!

Absolute clap-trap.  De Allende was covering Folau - who was in the line at that stage.  if he went for Kuridrani and the ball was passed to Folau there would have been a certain try.   As it was the ball was passed to Folau afterwards - he knocked it on. 


63:56 - Boks win a turnover after a highball reception by A15. S9 sends a long pass behind S8 and two other forwards out to S10. S10-S15-S12. S12 is in open space out wide with S13 along the touchline. He runs a clean overs line against A7 who scrags him by the ankle. S12 offloads to S13 who comes back inside instead of passing to S14 who would have been free for a run down the touchline.


This is also claptrap - De Allende could pass to Pietersen - who was on the sideline and would have been pushed out of play with ease - that is why he went inside.  Pietersen was not in the clear and with the speed deficiency of Pietersen there was no chance that he would not have been pushed out of play.   

64:05 - Boks are losing ground as a result of S13s prior error and almost lose control of ball. S12 grabs bobbling loose ball and straightens up the attack and forces his way forward in the tackle of A18, who is around his ankles, and A13 who takes him high. Eventually he is forced to ground after A13 stands him up for a moment. Boks have some much needed momentum now.


Correct description

66:17 - S8 tackles A7 from behind with S12 assisting and attacking subsequent breakdown.

66:51 - A13 cuts inside after a long pass out. He breaks the tackle of S13 who jumped the line and turns in the tackle of S12, getting in behind him. S12 has him by the shorts but A13 is marching forward until S4 stops him and puts him to ground. Australia on the front foot inside Bok 22.


Crap Kuridrani was marching nowhere and he went straight down 

67:44 - Australia turnover ball via gathered over-throw by S2. A21 sends a long pass out to A22 who runs at S12 and beats him cleanly on the inside. S6 knocks him to ground.


De Allende made a clean tackle - Louw came up later and it was in fact while the player tackled by De Allende was already going down.   

68:05 - A23 runs at S12 out wide and goes to ground willingly and presents clean ball for the return phases in the opposite direction.


Weird - "the player went down willingly"  when he ws tackled by De Allende - there was nothing "went down willingly" involved, he was tackled. 

68:32 - A20 runs at S7 and S12 jumps the line to cut him off from the outside and assist in pushing him to ground before moving out quickly to take up defensive position.


More or less correct

68:45 - Ball popped out to S12 from ruck deep in Bok half, S12 is near touchline. He readies himself to attack the
outside shoulder of A23 before ref blows whistle.


????

69:40 - AUS L/O, Bok 22. Australia maul. A long pass out to A22. A22 runs out then in, and attacks S12s inside shoulder beating him cleanly. S? puts him down by covering the space between himself and S12 very closely. Perhaps Meyer instructed him to be weary of that little ploy by the Australians.

What has this weird deduction to do with De Allende?


69:50 - Deep inside Bok 22. The third phase of the previous attacking sequence. A5 runs at S12 but loses the ball trying to twist in the tackle as he is going to ground from a low tackle by S20.  


It was a perfectly good tackle and De Allende got the ball going forward in this case.  he commentator said good tackle and that was it.

76:40 - A23 looks up and targets S12. He drives his way forward as S10 assists S12 in the tackle. Eventually they all go to ground with little ground gained or lost. Penalty Australia.

Drives himself forward and no ground gained????????


78:46 - S12 attacks ruck but is cleaned out quickly.

79:10 - S12 Attacks ruck. Slows down ball, Bok surge wins turnover.

81:07 - Boks defending desperately deep inside their 22. S12 assists in tackle out wide. Pulls out quickly to take up defensive position.

81:33 - Right in front of Bok tryline now. 10th phase and A13 runs at space between S12 and S6 - S6 being the interior defender. S12 is the first to make contact with a low tackle that allows A13 to get behind S12 and move in the subsequent tackle against S6. S12 slipped off tackle. Try Australia. 
What can be deduced from the above is clear.  Disaster knew he would be laughed at if attacking De Allende in respect of other facets of play - so he decided to go for his defense.  That is where he cooked up the worst lies imaginable and made some really weird comments about what to his mind De Allende should have done.   On the whole he was totally inaccurate and in some cases just lied straight out about what happened.
    
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
21 Jul 2015, 17:11
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21 Jul 2015, 17:11#2
Oh Michael, you are in over your head. But don't worry, I have a video coming soon! You will be in even deeper water then.

Also, interesting little diagrams there! LOL!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 17:31
#3
21 Jul 2015, 17:31#3
 Weird stuff. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 17:42
#4
21 Jul 2015, 17:42#4
Disaster 
When the commentators said - good tackle and you said it was a missed tackle - seeing with our own eyes what really happened - who must we believe?   The commentators or the lies and pollution you spread on this site? 
I have no worries about your video production - I already said where De Allende missed tackles - so don't bother about those incidents - just produce those where you lied.   
 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 17:48
#5
21 Jul 2015, 17:48#5
 Perception can be a bitch sometimes. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 17:50
#6
21 Jul 2015, 17:50#6
 Draad
You mean prejudice as well?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 18:03
#7
21 Jul 2015, 18:03#7
 Jy weet dan Mike! 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 06:03
#8
07 Oct 2015, 06:03#8
So I stumbled upon it after all. 
01:39 - Actually, I should ammend that description. Damian had the attacker by the waist and was then slidding off the tackle completely. At no point did the attacker go down until Coetzee smashed him from the side.
02:51- Movement off the ball as part of a set play. The move was a rangy. This is a significant role he played. 
08:00 - Another lie, Damian was the primary defender and got beaten. Bissie did not miss a tackle, he was the one who put him down! And to allow a burst into our 22? Hmmm. And the Aussies did not lose the ball but got a quick recycle.
10:26 - Watch the footage again, Kuri was standing in the tackle until Kriel put him down. Wrong again!
14:15 - If you watch more carefully, Damian literally takes three steps backwards. THREE! And Hooper was clearly onside.
18:45 - Toomua stood him up and Damian was going backwards until Lood came in and took them both to ground.
20:00 - I cannot make out what this is supposed to mean. Simply put, Kuri ran at Damian and as Damian was holding him by the waist Kuri was fighting his way forward until Kriel put him down.

31:42 - Damian exposed his channel and the Aussies broke into our 22. Simples.
32:50 - All was as described. Kuri ran an unders line meaning he ran at Damian's inside shoulder and into the space between Pollard and himself. This had the effect of fixing Pollard and isolating Damian. Then 10 ran at Damian's outside shoulder and had AAC running the same line but deeper. Damian moved out to tackle 10 but that meant AAC ran into the space he was defending and scored a try. If Damian had guarded against AAC, Kriel was on hand to account for 10 and the entire move would have broken down!
35:15 - I did say Kuri went to ground, but descibed how that happened. Kuri got behind Damian and Damian was slipping off a high tackle but disrupted Kuris footing at the last moment.

66:51 - Wrong. Kriel missed the attacker. Damian had him by the back of the shorts until Eben put him down. The attacker got from outside the Bok 22 to well inside it.

68:05 - Watch again! The attacker takes the contact, then drops to the ground to recycle quickly. Quite clear to see in fact.
69:40 - Damian was beaten cleanly. Pretty self-explanatory!
69:50 - What? Damian didn't get to commit to a tackle. 
76:40 - I said little ground, not no ground !
There we have it. Game, set and match as per the norm.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 06:26
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07 Oct 2015, 06:26#9
 Listen BSter - you suddenly found this thread and now comes up with even moire drivel.  I think your second descriptions were even more inaccurate than your first ones were,  I do not think you realize how you carry on about things that was different from what you wrote originally.   Now a new version as false as some of the things you wrote originally.   No further comment needed anyway.  Too many original falsehoods and deceptions - so a second attempt in the same vein would not help.      
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 06:38
#10
07 Oct 2015, 06:38#10
 Not a new version. Merely a rewording. I tried to simplify things for you but you seem to even more perplexed! I'll post the video if you like. Or will you just admit you are wrong and end it now? I know you won't, you are much too stubborn!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 07:15
#11
07 Oct 2015, 07:15#11
 Balls - a New Version in many respects.  Bad caught out lying and then ahve to try and cover up!!!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Oct 2015, 09:59
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07 Oct 2015, 09:59#12
 
Mike ... surely you know by now that everything Inbred spouts is devoid of fact.

Conjured nonsense.

Ask him about the origins of the Dodo bird!!




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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2015, 10:23
#13
07 Oct 2015, 10:23#13
Spot on Mike, this idiots version of anything rugby is a load of biased rubbish......not worth the time of day.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 10:30
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07 Oct 2015, 10:30#14
 CC
Problem is he and Mozart always act in consort - in this case Mozart thanks Dim Fox on his excellent descriptions, but went quiet when I said that the stuff written was hogwsh and a concoction of lies.  You would also note that even if a bloke carries a ball 24 meters there is no mention of territory gain - thus distorting the players achievements - except when he favours a player than everything is given in glorious detail.
I nearly LMAO when he gave a description of what Steyn did in the Stormers game.  every second sentence read - Steyn took up his position in the backline, while mentioning squad of importance done.  He then went ahead and rate Steyn's dismal performance higher than De Allende's - even though De Allende was named the 12 of the round.  He ended  with his normal debunk story.   Too funny to believe as a reasonable story.  
The contributions by Dim Fox, Mozart and Ceradunce is of equal quality - a concoction of disinformation and outright lies and they are supported from time to time by their co-geriatrics supporting Pakie.  
Whatever they write is mostly to be disbelieved since it is so far removed from reality.   
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Oct 2015, 11:55
#15
07 Oct 2015, 11:55#15
 
Pakie Poef doesn't like you ... so as expected he's joined forces with the three stooges (Dof Doos, Inbred and Moffie) 

Moffie has made an arse of himself so many times these last few years that he needed a like minded imbecile to try validate his absurdity. That's why he's selected the re-tar-ded Fox.

When two idiots agree on the same stupid theories it doesn't suddenly change that theory.

Horseshyte is horsehyte ... no matter how you dress it up, it remains horseshyte.


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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 13:50
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07 Oct 2015, 13:50#16
 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 13:58
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07 Oct 2015, 13:58#17
 Put the whole game on and then we can compare with your comments.  Selected clips is no use - so try again.   The clips you post is concentrated on certain issues only - and tries to portray only a few defensive lapses everybody has seen and admitted as defensive deficiencies - but not the whole match, because you refuse to see positives and stress only negatives.
Your clips se lected to paint only negatives are worthless and stupid.    
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Oct 2015, 14:34
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07 Oct 2015, 14:34#18
 Fox if you prove something with a video clip one of two things will happen;
1) As Mike just did in the post above the Dogs will ask for a different incident, while being completely incapable of producing anything themselves...or
2) They will simply deny the evidence staring them in the face.
And there is no point engaging Pervert ....he is a stupid old mong, with BS for brains. I doubt he even has a Matric.
We function at a pathetically low standard here.
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 14:43
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07 Oct 2015, 14:43#19
 Too true Moz, but I will leave them by saying that the whole point of cutting out footage was so that everything that DID involve Damian could be isolated and more readily viewable!! He wasn't involved anywhere else, so what difference does it make if I post the entire game up? Good lord in sheol, outer darkness, tartarus and wherever the hell else exists!!! Is this that difficult? It's like asking a person a question and then giving them a choice of answers: A, B and C. But the poor sod thinks he is a smartazz and says I'll go with D, and gives you a cocky smirk. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2015, 14:44
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07 Oct 2015, 14:44#20

When I had a look at that clip, DA impressed me which is exactly what he did against Oz, he was even more impressive against NZ.....the kid pair of de Allende/Kriel made Nonu/Smith look like amateurs......it was one hell of a performance considering their infancy.


On the strength of that  performance alone a coach with substance would invest long-term in these two. There is no sterner test than facing the AB's  

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 14:50
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07 Oct 2015, 14:50#21
 Actually, Kriel and Damian failed to take control of that NZ game. It was a very scrappy structureless game, one in which Damian should have thrived. He didn't, and despite dominating NZ at the breakdown, they were unable to be the difference and Damian was still weak on defence though he didn't have alot of direct pressure. Was NZs worst performance since the 2009 home Italy test!
And if you like this Aussie performance, then you have very low standards. The most effective thing he did was run into open space. LMAO!!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2015, 15:08
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07 Oct 2015, 15:08#22

Stop lying you prick. Are you saying based on the stats below that the Bok pair were outplayed by the AB's you profoundly stupid man?


Stats vs AB's


de Allende 11 runs, 46m gained, 2 clean breaks, 6 defenders beaten
Nonu 4 runs, 17m gained, 0 clean breaks, 2 defenders beaten
Kriel 11 runs, 76m gained, 2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten
Smith 6 runs, 18m gained, 0 clean breaks, 0 defenders beaten

 

IDIOT - read and weep.......oooh wow it was NZ's worst performance was it......so it had nothing to do with the Bok centre pair completely dominating the old farts? You are an insult......but there is no hiding away......I know exactly who kicked arse that day......all your lame excuses carry about as much weight as your take in Kurandrani vs BOD......a laugh a minute

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 15:25
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07 Oct 2015, 15:25#23
It seems I need to go over this game too. No trouble, I already have my notes and game video
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 15:55
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07 Oct 2015, 15:55#24
 Look dim Mozart and dimmer Fox
The performance of players are NEVER assessed based on ONE or TWO or even three  Incidents in a match - it is based on performance during the WHOLE game.  You must look at both positives and negatives in any game.
The kind of clips were incidents are selected with a view to discredit a player is absolute BS and if you are not aware of that yet you never will be.  So what you two BSters are trying to do is as clear as daylight and dishonest as you normally are. as well.
Mozart used to write what he called Morsoscopes and when you look at that it was even more rubbish than Dim Fox write.   It was all aimed at covering up for players he likes and discrediting players he dislikes.   This is basically dishonesty and despicable. You call that player assessment - but nobody really believes you.
In dealing with De Allende I criticized his defense in that game - but also give him credit for good play in the match where he did well.   I would not dare to write the false description of incidents - which you two specialize in.  Why are you so obviously dishonest.

  
   
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 16:24
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07 Oct 2015, 16:24#25
Michael, these clips are everything Damian did in the game. I even include set plays where he wasn't the designated runner. Restarts, rucks, movements off the ball. I show everything, the good and the bad. If you think there was something else to add in this game then give me the time and I will post it . Simples.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2015, 16:32
#26
07 Oct 2015, 16:32#26

It should be entertaining trying to find positives in the 13 - 2 drubbing handed out by the Bok pair in terms of clean breaks and defenders beaten


Only an idiot like you could attempt it


Good luck yo  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 16:36
#27
07 Oct 2015, 16:36#27
 Well if that is the case it is fair.  I did not look at it - because we have gone through this before and your description of incidents dealt with in detail,  Why go through iot again and again.  
I was very clear in what i said about De Allende's defense - that it was inadequate in the game and needs to be improved on.   I also said that eh did some good things in the match and gave a balanced report on the issue of his performance \overall in the game. You went overboard on the defense issue - giving numerous falsified descriptions as to what happened when tackles was made or missed - and is mentioning it in every post of yours as if that was career-defining.   It was not and you are showing a massive degree of prejudice in this case.   If that vanish from your match descriptions than people can believe you and give you credit for your efforts - if your descriptions are devious then you discredit yourself.              
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 16:55
#28
07 Oct 2015, 16:55#28
No amendments made. Everything as described. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 17:35
#29
07 Oct 2015, 17:35#29
 Apparently you did nto reaf my comments oon your initial comments and that was it.  In cases 2wherethe commentatior said good tacklle and you make it out as not good - is an example.  I did not read all your revised comments since it was just re-recording of your previous inaccurate statements - and that is a fact as well.   What you write now are as false as it used to be.  So get your facts correct. 
 Take for instance 14:15  - Hooper was penalized for being off-side.  Secondly I have never seen a player going back three steps and then go forward in the tackle.  That incident alone is an outright lie.
The following extract from the match report:-
 150 - 3Pollard - penalty goal Where did that penalty conversion come from? 



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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 18:03
#30
07 Oct 2015, 18:03#30
Damian took exactly three steps, watch the video. If you want to know how he got forward movement, watch the video! You got your rump tanned, just in time for Summer! No need to thank me.
As per the commentator, he was wrong. Again, consult the video. Stop ducking and diving. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2015, 18:24
#31
07 Oct 2015, 18:24#31
 Get a room you two!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 18:40
#32
07 Oct 2015, 18:40#32
 That was BS  in great volume again - What happened to the denial of the penalty allegation to the effect that Hooper was off-side????
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 18:49
#33
07 Oct 2015, 18:49#33
 Get a room with Michael? And end up like this? Naaaa!!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 20:25
#34
07 Oct 2015, 20:25#34
 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2015, 21:11
#35
07 Oct 2015, 21:11#35
 Aag nee man Fox, that was uncalled for! Not funny. Never took you to be that hairy.
PS, Mike, why you laughing, nothing funng man.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 21:31
#36
07 Oct 2015, 21:31#36
 Because I have never seen anything sillier that the BSter came up with now.  That is an atrocious photo to place on this site, But then he is so bloody stupid that I could not help myself.     
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2015, 21:42
#37
07 Oct 2015, 21:42#37
 Still no laughing matter Mike!....
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
07 Oct 2015, 21:46
#38
07 Oct 2015, 21:46#38
 Who said I was joking? Oo'
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2015, 23:09
#39
07 Oct 2015, 23:09#39
 Draad
What else can one expect from a Low Life creature  who is  copying his Low Life pal Mozart?    
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2015, 23:14
#40
07 Oct 2015, 23:14#40
 Mike, I can sort of understand why you take things personal,  but this is the internet afterall, so don't worry too much about it.
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