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Du Plessis, Louw out for Pumas; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2015, 13:43
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28 Jul 2015, 13:43#1
South Africa will be without Jannie du Plessis and Francois Louw when they face Argentina in Durban next Saturday. Du Plessis (knee) and Louw (rotator cuff), along with Victor Matfield and JP Pietersen (both hamstring injuries) will miss both Tests against the Pumas.  On the bright side, none of these injuries will put their World Cup participation at risk. Saturday’s other injury victims, Vincent Koch and Warren Whiteley (rib cartilages) should be fit and available for selection next weekend. In some good news for the Springboks, they could have Jean de Villiers, Fourie du Preez and Willem Alberts back while at this stage their medical team is optimistic of delivering a fully fit squad to the selectors for the World Cup. De Villiers, Du Preez and Alberts are three of seven players whose fitness will be assessed on Monday as they complete the final phase of rehabilitation while players such as Duane Vermeulen and Coenie Oosthuizen are progressing well with their rehabilitation. Jan Serfontein (hip and knee), Marcell Coetzee (knee), Pieter-Steph du Toit (knee) and Steven Kitshoff (knee) will also be assessed on Monday with a view to being available for selection against the Pumas. Frans Steyn is recovering well from a pectoral muscle injury and could be ready to play Argentina in Buenos Aires. Frans Malherbe has a bone bruise in the hip, which he picked up in the Brisbane Test. He will consult a specialist in Cape Town and will also be re-assessed next week in Durban. "All of these players have worked hard during their rehabilitation and although we still have to put them through a final assessment on Monday after we’ve re-assembled in Durban, I’m hopeful that they should be fit to face Argentina in at least one of the two forthcoming Tests," said Springbok team doctor Craig Roberts. "We’re continuing to work very hard with Duane and Coenie and at this stage it’s looking very likely that we will have a full complement of players available for selection when the final squad for the World Cup is named at the end of August." Bok coach Heyneke Meyer said that the national selectors may have to consider possible cover at tighthead if Koch and Malherbe are both ruled out of the Tests against Argentina.
"We’ll have a look at Vincent and Frans in Durban and if they are not fit, we may have to bring someone in," said Meyer. "It’s wonderful to see a number of players returning from injury and all of them will be considered if they are passed fit by our medical team. "I’m also very glad Pieter-Steph is back . He was in the selection frame last week but after consultation between our medical team and that of the Sharks, we decided to stick to the original plan regarding his return to play, which is that he will turn out for his province in an Currie Cup warm-up match on Friday. "While it’s never ideal to lose experienced players to injury, it provides others with opportunities. We wanted to mix things up a bit in the two Tests against Argentina and the next players in line will now have to show they can perform at the highest level before we finalise the World Cup squad."
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2015, 13:43
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28 Jul 2015, 13:43#2
Injury update will please some & leave others less so.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Jul 2015, 13:47
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28 Jul 2015, 13:47#3
 True, JW. According to some, both injuries should be a blessing in disguise.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 13:54
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28 Jul 2015, 13:54#4

Louw is no loss at all and the return of Alberts and Jean is no blessing at all.


Worst news of all is that Matfield is not out of the WC  

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
28 Jul 2015, 14:00
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28 Jul 2015, 14:00#5
Saffex, so glum.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2015, 16:54
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28 Jul 2015, 16:54#6
 I posted a separate thread on this issue - but would like to repeat my comments here:-

There are a serious problem with the possible return of Alberts and also question marks about Fourie du Preez and Jean de Villiers.


Alberts has been utterly useless for years now and the question is what is he doing in the Springbok squad.   He had three matches since June 2014 and in all three was atrocious.   A disaster if he ever makes the WC squad.


Fourie du Preez should get some game time - he has not played a single match since March 2015 and in the period June 2014 to March 2015 he had 9 matches.   When he returned to rugby in June 2014 he was clearly not fit - his performance was barely average to poor - and he lasted exactly one and a half-match before he was injured.   That after he was short in fitness in 2013 already when he could not play successfully in succeeding weeks.  At 33 what is he going to be now?  I think there is about a 5% chance of him being match-fit by the time the WC comes around..


Jean de Villiers will present as much selection problems as was stated in another article.  Is  he going to slot in at 12 or 13?   Will he be good enough to improve on the top class performances of the two inc umbents?  My guess is he will be given bench selection for probably both Argentina tests.


Matfield missing both Argentina tests is no surprise.  He is so useless as a lock, any further games before the WC will just expose further how really useless he is.   The great saboteur of the Tight 5 will not be missed against Argentina..  

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 17:02
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28 Jul 2015, 17:02#7
Meyer is so fucking useless that he thinks that they lost the recent tests because of a lack of experience.....so come the WC all the geriatrics will be back  
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
28 Jul 2015, 17:03
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28 Jul 2015, 17:03#8
 Irrespective of your individual views of injured players it is good news to hear about them making these recoveries from serious injuries.
Trust they are not placed at additional risk of re-injuring themselves by being selected to play to early in their recovery process.
The guys who cannot recover from their injuries (old age, like Victor) should be retired permanently. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 17:04
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28 Jul 2015, 17:04#9
Vic should have stayed retired some 5 years ago  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2015, 17:20
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28 Jul 2015, 17:20#10
 Dave
The problem is two-fold.  If Meyer goes for the geriatrics - the chance of being successful in the WC will be equal to what it was in 2011 - near to zero.  The upshot will be that -
*   on the negative side the Springboks will be disgraced and we will all feel ashamed about it; and
*   on the positive side Meyer would be out as Springbok coach and we will hopefully get somebody who does not select players because they are his pals and where performance is not a consideration.
If he sticks with the team on Saturday - making minimal changes to cater for better players returning from injury the chance of victory in the WC will be circa 35 to 40% - same as that of NZ - if we listen to what Hansen, McCaw and  and Meyer said about the situation.   That may save his skin as a coach.         
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