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Dud Toit Mozcroscope…2nd half

Started by Mozart43 REPLIES901 VIEWS· 10 Nov 2025, 19:30
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2025, 19:30
#1
10 Nov 2025, 19:30#1

42.30 ….Ramos easily steps the charging Dud, covered by Dud Allende


43.30 Dud runs up on Ramos, but he’s too slow and the French launch a dangerous move up the right, out 5 metres from the Bok line..we see this again and again in this game, he just doesn’t have the pace


46.00 Ntmack tackled low …Dud comes in high and bounces off


49.40 Dud makes his first clean one on one tackle of the game


50.20 Boudehent hands off Dud and rounds him


55.50 Once again Dud over the ball on the ground and is rolled off.


61.00 Dud Toit takes an uncontested lineout


61.15 Dud gets ball, Dud goes down near the line, no attempt to offload.


67.00 Dud gets ball, goes down immediately…no struggle, no attempt to keep his feet.


76.15 Dud’s best contribution of the game… running to get back in line he inadvertently

cuts off Ntmack’s path to tackle Sacha who waltzes around Dud and Ntmack to score.


78.00 He makes his first pass of the night, but the ball had been knocked.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 13:09
#2
12 Nov 2025, 13:09#2

I never saw a Mozcroscope that was not distorted lies and total BS. So I would not even bother to check what really happened,


76.15 Dud’s best contribution of the game… running to get back in line he inadvertently

cuts off Ntmack’s path to tackle Sacha who waltzes around Dud and Ntmack to score.


Just to add if that really happened the try would not have been allowed dimshit



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
12 Nov 2025, 13:13
#3
12 Nov 2025, 13:13#3

Surprised you even bothered to click on this biased and ignorant rubbish, ou Maaik.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:12
#4
12 Nov 2025, 14:12#4

When DuToit plays a bad game, it is usually just an average game by the average team's standards.

The only time I have seen DoToit play a truly bad game is right after a long injury layoff.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:29
#5
12 Nov 2025, 14:29#5

So I would not even bother to check what really happened,


Surprised you even bothered to click on this biased and ignorant rubbish, ou Maaik.


Well, this is one of the problems on this forum. The ones too lazy to actually check anything accusing those who do take the time of being biased and ignorant without bringing a shred of evidence for those claims.


Every event checks out. Some of the time stamps are a little off but it's not hard to find the event around that time. I can add a comment to one or two, like the charge on Ramos at 43:30 may not have trapped him in possession, but it did pressure him into throwing a somewhat lobby pass outside. But for the most part, it's accurate and it's also just about the entire show for PSDT in half 2. Want to know why he was so quiet? See the last image - that's where he could be seen spending quite a bit of time in the half - out on left wing while most of the play was taking place infield.


Up your game, boys.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:46
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12 Nov 2025, 14:46#6

I appreciate that Pakie….it stuns me that fans are so locked into their beliefs that they can’t process any dissonance. But I guess 400 years ago our species was still burning heretics at the stake…we have progressed enormously technologically but I think Mike would set me alight if he could.,,,LOL!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:50
#7
12 Nov 2025, 14:50#7

Tired of reading Dud...Dud...Dud...this and Dud Dud Dud that...yes I bet the event's are factual but slightly slanted to the negative...and if he was hanging all the way on the left wing, it was on Rassie's instruction as part of the game plan for the day, not because he decided he fancies himself as a winger. He's a team player after all...the team 1st...that much is obvious...and the game plan and the team effort on the day turned out to be very effective...but let's go and look for some negatives just to prove a spiteful point on Ruckers...really? Up your own game.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:58
#8
12 Nov 2025, 14:58#8

‘...but let's go and look for some negatives just to prove a spiteful point on Rucker’s’


Actually I looked for negatives and positives. Why did I do this piece. Well Dud got an 8 rating. Wiese got an 8 rating. That to me was blatantly unfair, so I started to look at the incidents.


To be clear. I buy that team contributions aren’t always obvious and I wouldn’t replace du Toit until a player like Hanekom becomes available. The point is his contributions are routinely overstated.


Last week some French paper made him world player of the year, was that a world player of the year performance? Honesty is not spite.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2025, 14:59
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12 Nov 2025, 14:59#9

No problem with him edge forwarding - it would absolutely be trained and part of the plan although sometimes it irks me like when he gets in the way of the wing - already brought it up before so not gonna hammer on it again. I mentioned it here because that's where he spent a lot of time towards the end of the half, and it effectively takes him out of play unless the ball goes wide, hence partly explaining his fairly little involvement in the half, which may seem incredible to those who maintain that he still did more than most loosies in the game would do (Marcos Kremer for one would like to have a word). That's it.


Yeah, a few players catch an unbalanced amount of attention here, and the more hyped the more attention. Whatcha gonna do. Hoë bome vang die meeste wind en al daai.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 15:00
#10
12 Nov 2025, 15:00#10

Draad I agree with you.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2025, 15:06
#11
12 Nov 2025, 15:06#11

Draad I agree with you.


Well, that went quickly from "it's distorted lies and total BS" to "let's rather not talk about the player anymore".

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2025, 16:32
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12 Nov 2025, 16:32#12

Pakie...I simply don't have the time to watch the game again...I can recall PSDT being active in captaining tbe game and I saw him a few times...Moz went to watch the match again to prove PSDT was less deserving of the 8 than Jasper...where's the time stamp Mozroscope for Wiese?...but, but unfair?...fed by his nonsensical bias.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2025, 16:37
#13
12 Nov 2025, 16:37#13

No worries Draad, I know not everyone has time and I'm not fussed about it. I sometimes don't either or simply can't be bothered depending on my mood at any given time. It will be nice though if people who don't know say, like you do, "I don't know because I don't have time to watch again" rather than just calling bullshit on stuff they haven't even bothered to review.


I can do Wiese, let's see what comes up. I want to highlight some other things about the game too, the French came damn close to running away with it in that first 20 minutes of the second half.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 18:20
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12 Nov 2025, 18:20#14

Here’s the Planet Rugby rating:


7 Pieter-Steph du Toit: The hardest working Springbok yet again. He competed superbly in the lineouts, carried well, tackled even better and saw out the game as captain. Never disappoints in the big matches and today was no different. 8


It’s nonsense he “carried well’ …..’tackled even better’. He never beat one tackle or made any yards….and he missed several easy tackles. Yes he did take two lineouts….on our throw…..one was contested.


This is the rubbish that is being peddled in the media. We can either be sheep who believe what they feed us or look at games with our own two eyes. Everybody makes mistakes and misses things, but there ought to be some relationship to what happened on the field, in fairness to all the players.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 19:26
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12 Nov 2025, 19:26#15

Mozart


Draad taught you ta lesson and you reverted back to your obsession with Du Toit


Let me take you back to 2013-14. Mattfield retired from rugby and in his idiocy Meyer convincd him to sretrun from retirement. It was then that Dave and I wrote on site that it was a stupid thing to do and thet Du Toit would be a better option. You went into a hysteria state and wrote on site that DUD was useless and should ebver oplay in the Springbok team. ,


A fter he returned from retirement Mattfied was a a serious failure in tests and there were manmy examples of thatm In the case of Mattfied we poined out serious deficincies in his 2014 and 2015 perfomances and every time you defended Mattfield - but your defense always ended up in an attack on DuToit.- but the onsession was always uyoou can nevebe wrong on anything.


Since then you wanted to keep provin g that your asessment is always negative proof to use But you wanted to justify your statenmebtt on Du Toit was correct and that you are never wrong, You got more serious and hysterical. Du Toit did beccome one of te top players in the Springbok team - but your original statements must be defended at all costs, In matches D u Toit must be demeaned because you had to support your own statements of twelve years ago by negative attacks on Du Toit - because according to you you can never be wong. So it became an obsession with you - by repetitive postings on how poor Du Toit is you mentally your comments in 2014 was ight since Mozart can never be wrong - a real problem in people who regard themselves as superior human beings who cannot be ronmg on anything.


De Allende fall under the same catgory as well The gret Mozart cannot be worng on anythng. , . . .

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 19:42
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12 Nov 2025, 19:42#16

Lies you keep repeating, but Victor came back very successfully. Three months after he returned:


‘South Africa defeated Australia 28-10 in the match played at Newlands in Cape Town. Matfield, a legendary lock who had come out of retirement earlier that year, was awarded the honor for his exceptional performance, particularly his leadership and work in the line-outs.’


Obviously a very deficient performance. The deficient player in 2015 was Lomp who missed Kaino for a decisive try in our exit to NZ



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:05
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12 Nov 2025, 20:05#17

This isn't player evaluation, it's: " let's get something to complain about Dud....again and again and a fcn gain...SIES!!!!"



GATVOL doesn't even begin to describe it....and it's not just now or since Rassie's tenure...there's a 2 decade patern of this k@k.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:17
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12 Nov 2025, 20:17#18

And still no comment on Mike’s lies on the Erasmus 50 test string. You just can’t be honest can you. Who gives a damn about your ‘pain’. This was a legitimate play by play review of Dud’s game which demonstrated clearly a 6 would have been a stretch. If that hurts your tribal angst so be it..,,you are one of the most dishonest posters on the Board, M had you spot on.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
12 Nov 2025, 21:10
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12 Nov 2025, 21:10#19

Pieter-Steph du Toit's contribution to the team transcends mere statistics or video replays or endless AI regurgitation.


If someone doesn't get the value he adds then that's their problem but we just don't need to hear all this negative almost evangelical squealing non stop for a decade.


I think that's the point Draad is making.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 22:36
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12 Nov 2025, 22:36#20

Oh nice, suddenly he’s Draad and not Squeaky Toy? See how I create harmony on the Board. But your argument is Dud Toit has huge value to the team. That has to manifest itself in Win/Loss records. But I find since Dr Lucky arrived Dud has played 61 games for the Boks, leaving aside draws and been on the winning side 42 or 68.8% of the time.


Since Lucky became head coach (including the period Nienaber was pseudo coach because Dud played in that period) Erasmus oversaw 64 wins and 24 losses excluding draws. That gives him a win ratio of 72.7%.


So the conclusion that Dud Toit adds to Bok performance doesn’t meet a simple statistical test. The Boks have done better when Dud isn’t there.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Nov 2025, 02:14
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13 Nov 2025, 02:14#21

......but we just don't need to hear all this negative almost evangelical squealing non stop for a decade.

It's repetitive, negative and boring.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 03:24
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13 Nov 2025, 03:24#22

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2025, 04:15
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13 Nov 2025, 04:15#23

Very successful - what a farce you make in rugby. LOL.


2014 - test against the AB's. The AB's got penalized and a successful line kick led to Line out 5 meters out. The ball goes to Mattfield he fumbled it and the driving maul opportunity is gone - with it the win of the test is gone. Spo for a change the ball went out along the backline and on the other side of the field De Jager came out of t he breakdown standing virtually on the sideline when Du Preez had a brain fart and passed he ball to him instead of passing it to the waiting backlne. Two AB players pushed De Jager ovee the sideline and H allelujah De Jagerr, is the reason why the envisaged try was not scored. When the issue is pointed out - t he excuse of Mozart is not te fumble of the ball in the first line out by Mattfield because an AB player touches his arm in th jump - it nver happened but te whole saga is blamed on De Jager,


In 2014 in other tests an effort is made to form driving mauls after Mattfield caught the ball. Instead of co-ordinatd the drive as is normal by catcher in such line-outs ended and the drive started Matftfield on a number of cases ended up on the grass outside of the maul easily pusjed out by the opposing players


Next test against he AB's in a line out 10 mters out from the ANb tryline. Throw in by the Boks and Whitelock outjumped Mattfield and the AB backline attacked and scored a converted try. and put the AB's a 1 point lead in the test, The AB's buggered up by an off side play 55 meters out. Lambie kick at goal and converted the try. Another comment by Hansen before the match stating that they know what to do woth Morne at flyhalf - but they do not know what to expect from Pollard. Very true Pollard scored two of his career 6 tries in etsts in that that match. But the Springboks in the test won in 2008 occured in two tests - in both Mattfield was a key that lost the first one and nearly caused the loss of the second one.


Then came along the 2015 RWC. According to Smit the only game plan applicable in the test against Japan as to have the dominant Bok forwards were to win the match for the Springboks. Matffield - as leader of the forwards did te excct opposite to Meyer's instructions. So what happned - the ball went to the scrummie - the scrummie passe the ball - also Du Preez when he came from the bench - passed the ball back to foreards and in 4 such cases Burger knocked on the ball passed to him. An unholy mess and I was amazed - not by the loss - blamedby Mozart as the only reason why he disasrter occurred in the Japan test and the Springboks lost the match. The one thing I would enve forget was the looks ofamazement shown in the faces of both De Villiers and Mattfield after th final Whistle. That match saved SApringbok rugby since it led to effective firing of Meyer as coach, End result - the only reason why the Springboks lost the unholy mess was disregading of the Meyer instructions


The next test De Villiers and Mattfield got injured adn tha was te last test De Villiers and the loss is blam,ed by Mozatrt on the scoring of thwinning try was to blame only Kriel for the fact that the Japs made a successful backline try. Mattfied did not play again for the Springboks until the semi-final against the AB;s, S o in th e seind hlf Mattfiel relaced the over-played and tired De Jager, First line-out after Mattfield came on there was a line-out throw in by the Boks. Whitelock outjumped Matfield and the AB's got the turnover ball. About ten minutes later the Springboks got a penalty making for an easy conversion - but Mttfield had other ideas. A neck-wrestle by Mattfield let to the peanlty being reversed. Instead of a potencial win by the Springboks.- they lost the match,


Easy reason for the loss were invented by Mozart, Blame it all on De Allende and De Jager - not on the foul ups by Mattfield. By the way it was another Mozart fable distorted by Mozart - as a result of which Mozart made a statement confrming he was the best performance evaluator in the world.


Mattfield very successful because of a win against the Aussies in which Matfeld happened to play implying that .Mattfied is the only reason why the Aussies got beaten.


LOL LOL LOL - those whom the gods wish to destroy they drive mad. Very good description when dealing with Mozart and Pakie. Anybdy believing that shit and the Pakie pictures must be kidding. Rugby is not a stagnant game - in the blink of an eye things happned that proved rugby is not a stagnant game easily destroying still pictures placed on site - in fact is proving bugger-all.


So lets face facts according to some posters on sitte Erasmus - called Lukcy by some site idiots - is a failed coach. So call him lucky and insult the team playes is the way to go. So similar statements match after match is really weird.


.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 05:18
#24
13 Nov 2025, 05:18#24

Matfield’s last match….the Bronze medal win over Argentina


16 tackles/1 missed/no turnovers conceded


5 runs/3 passes/23 metres/no penalties


Victor Matfield goes off into a second int retirement with the standing ovation he deserves

— Tristan Barclay

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 06:00
#25
13 Nov 2025, 06:00#25
60'
South African lineout and we're back to the driving mauls. They've pushed this one from the half way to the 22. New Zealand wary not to give away another penalty...60'
Player substituted - Lood de Jager , South Africa60'
Substitute on - Victor Matfield , South Africa


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 06:03
#26
13 Nov 2025, 06:03#26

NEW ZEALAND TRY!

Wow, first try of the game! Boks have been rattled back and Kaino has notched the first five points down the right flank. The All Blacks have eventually managed to stretch the Boks line and some nice handling from Kaino keeps the ball in play and Lood de Jager's last ditch tackle can't reach the flanker who plants down in the corner.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 06:05
#27
13 Nov 2025, 06:05#27

Actually it was a poor description of the tackle de Jager went high and Kaino swotted him off. You can’t even get the right incident.


How many times do you have to lose before you stop trying.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Nov 2025, 06:25
#28
13 Nov 2025, 06:25#28

over-played and tired De Jager


Already debunked multiple times on this forum. De Jager at 22 years old had played 309 minutes of rugby in that World Cup, Kaino at 32 years old had played 349 minutes. The silly excuse that a guy couldn't tackle another guy 10 years his senior + 40 more minutes of game time in the tournament on the clock because he had been "over-played" is just nonsense.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Nov 2025, 07:09
#29
13 Nov 2025, 07:09#29

"By the way it was another Mozart fable distorted by Mozart"


Golly, distorting one's own distortion.


We have no chance against this layered deception. These fabrications, intertwined with illusions, and held together by deception! How is a man to think when these misinformative demons rattle around the inside of my head, questioning me, mocking me and denying me even the slightest shreds of truth.


We are done for, Mike!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Nov 2025, 07:11
#30
13 Nov 2025, 07:11#30

Draad...facts over feelings, unless it's something you feel strongly about, right?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
13 Nov 2025, 07:13
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13 Nov 2025, 07:13#31

Ffs ouMaaik .... 4.45 am & you're posting not-so-short short stories.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
13 Nov 2025, 08:42
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13 Nov 2025, 08:42#32

This is repetitive:

Ouch........

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2025, 11:44
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13 Nov 2025, 11:44#33

Mozart the hate spreader


The discussion dofdoos was about the Matffield situation in 2014 and 2015. The truth hurts BSter First ting is the diversion to the Kaino try is a diversion again.


By the way the Bronze medal games is a real fun issue.the weakest players in the squad is used by repetitive teams in each RWC and was evident in 1999 and more so in 2015, To make that an example is a real joke. .


Pakie the real dofdoos.


The RWC squad is made up of 31 players for a very good reason - during a tournament players neeeds rest games and doeees not play in all the matches, Meyer selected 8 players who were unplayable in matches and the result was that De Jager had to play in every match up to the Semi-final. So you defy even that basic concept and as a result talks shit in capital letters.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Nov 2025, 11:50
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13 Nov 2025, 11:50#34

Kaino also played in every match. De Jager was 22. A 22-year old who can't play an average of 60 minutes of rugby per week for 5 weeks need to find an office job. He only played 26 minutes against Samoa. That's as good as a week off. And only one full game - against Wales.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2025, 12:37
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13 Nov 2025, 12:37#35

Did he?


Kaino was a class act throughout his career - De Jager just a good lock in his first series of tests he played in.


I will sum up the B S easily.


Denny and a few others suffer from TDS

Mozart and Pakie suffer from EDS



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2025, 13:25
#36
13 Nov 2025, 13:25#36

"Mozart and Pakie suffer from EDS"


There are two strains of EDS on this board . . . Erasmus and Esterhuizen.


Ou Maaik, your hate campaign against Andre Esterhuizen is no less repulsive than the anti-Rassie bile spewed by Moffie and the Servile Gimps.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Nov 2025, 14:48
#37
13 Nov 2025, 14:48#37

How about being truthful. The biggest DUD on this board is mozzietard.

Now the deceitful loon is trying to pretend he is objective about the Boks, Rassie Du Toit and Allende.

Its truly incredible this DUD has been trying to smear and belittle the Boks, Rassie, Du Toit and Allende for somewhere around a decade now!

Its been unrelenting, completely biased and has completely fooled poor Pakster who has become the Arch Gimp of the board. Pakster is so feeble of mind he thinks poor mozzie is the victim here, that this devious loon is simply an honest truth teller! Bwahahahahhahahahahahahaha

The only guy more bent that mozzietard is his good friend the Card best know as Alucard although he has had any number of names.

Now all this is hilarious but seeing this tripe day after day is tedious.

To recap

The Boks are the top ranked side in the word and have been at the top for many weeks during Rasie's tenure.

Two RWC wins

Rassie coach of the year.

Du Toit twice Player of the year.

Boks team of the year

Is it three Rugby Championship trophies including back to back wins.

Lions tour win.

The Bok team is now rated as on of the best teams ever and some say the best.

But all poor mozzietard does is moan and complain and argue how this success is due to luck, poor opposition, is all hype and that the entire rugby world is wrong. He and his tiny cabal of crazies are of course right.

AGAIN I SAY NAME ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS GOT IT AS WRONG AS MOZZIETARD. UNFORTUNATELY MOZZIETARD HAS INFECTED OTHER WITH HIS BS AND SO THEY TOO TODAY LOOK AS FOOLISH AS MOZZIE DOES. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

BUT HOW HOW ABOUT CUTTING THE DISGUSTING DECEPTION. ADMIT YOU HATE THE BOKS, RASSIE, DU TOIT AND ALLENDE AND CANT STAND ALL THIS WINNING AS IT NUKES YOUR FALSE NARRATIVES.

YOUR FEEBLE ATTMEPT TO SAY YOU ARE OBJECTIVE ETC ARE TOTALLY ABSURD.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 15:06
#38
13 Nov 2025, 15:06#38

I never claim to be objective, I claim to report what happens honestly. Do I like Rassie’s style…nope, never have since he let the Boks down in 2007. But would I lie about anything to ‘get’ Rassie….nope.


Your return to Board warrior is interesting after years as a political blogger. What happened HasBeen. You are full of vitriol, so whatever it was, I’m guessing you flopped.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2025, 15:25
#39
13 Nov 2025, 15:25#39

Honestly from you must always be doubtful. You are totally derabn ged when it comes to Erasmus and Du Toit. Your Morzoscoes was so bad in distortion that it contrasted totally from what actually h appened. In th e end you stop your Morzoscope system - becauase every statement made by you was so weird it was unbelievable and struictly remaisn witrhin the lie=spreading way.


Ask Dave about that one. Mozart was so sickly - he snet me an e-mail to cofoirm hat Dav was fat and mya nswer as not what he wanted to get. That is what Mozart really is. What he regard as honesty is vastly dfferent from what honesty means in the real world.


Now some truth - Erasmus left the RWC 2007 coaching squad becauee there was no contribution he could make that White would accept. Erasmus believe in proper game plans and tesams be trained to implement game plans - White nto so. Erasmus never made an statement on why he left the coaching staff because he did not want to disgrace White any further than has since been proved at least 3 times by White getting sacked by his emploayers because he was a deficient and clueless coach.




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 15:48
#40
13 Nov 2025, 15:48#40

‘Erasmus never made an statement on why he left the coaching staff because he did not want to disgrace White any further than has since been proved at least 3 times by White getting sacked by his emploayers because he was a deficient and clueless coach.’


Actually White had never been sacked by 2007, so once again the idea that Lucky said nothing because he didn’t want to embarrass White who was a deficient coach ….is a lie. As he proved by winning the WC two months later





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