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Eddie Jones at the Stormers

Started by clevermike10 REPLIES554 VIEWS· 12 Nov 2015, 18:20
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2015, 18:20
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12 Nov 2015, 18:20#1
The following from Superpsort Rugby:-
"f there is a top flyhalf available that the union can afford to recruit, new DHL Stormers coach Eddie Jones would be interested in opening negotiations.

He says, however, that he is happy to take on the challenge of developing the young players already on the Western Province books into stars who can win the Super Rugby title.

Jones hosted his first press conference as Stormers coach at Newlands on Thursday, and what he said would have been welcomed by those Cape and South African fans who are hoping to see the former Australia and ACT Brumbies mentor bring a new dimension to the local game.

“I am obviously new in this job but if you go back and look at the history of the union you will note that attacking rugby is what it is all about and what the fans expect, and we will be looking to develop a distinctive style that we will be known for,” said Jones.

“What we will be looking to do is develop an attacking style off a traditional South African base, which means forward domination and strong set phase play, which is pretty much what everyone chases after.

“I haven’t seen too much of the players I will be working with, but I have spoken a lot to assistant coaches and the rest of the management members over the past few days, and we are in agreement on what style we want to play and everyone seems very excited about it.

"I did watch a bit of the Currie Cup, maybe six or seven games, and I know that this is a squad that still has a lot of hair on the head, meaning that they are very young.

“We may lack a bit of experience in some areas, but there is a lot of young talent, and I will be looking to develop that talent into the style of rugby I envisage us playing. So you could say we will be looking to develop the talent that is available. Obviously that could take time, and it is difficult to say how long.

“If there is an experienced flyhalf that can be brought in to help in the meantime while the other players are developing, then I will look at that. The flyhalf and scrumhalf touch the ball more than anyone and determine what kind of game you play. But he would need to be affordable and the top guys are really expensive.”

Jones said that what he did know was that WP had a lot of really talented backs coming through, while he had been impressed by what he’d seen from some of the Stormers forwards who were involved with the Boks at the World Cup.

“That Frans Malherbe is a young player who really did well at the World Cup and appeared to develop really well, didn’t he? And Eben Etzebeth is quite a player. We have a strong front row and then we have Eben pairing up with Pieter-Steph du Toit in the second row, and we have the likes of Schalk and (Rynhardt) Elstadt in the forwards. We definitely have the players in those areas.”

Jones said he would be working closely with the age-group coaches to ensure that the message of the style of rugby he wants to play would be passed on and inculcated among the younger players coming through and those fringe players who might be needed during Super Rugby.

“That is obviously up to Gert as he is director of rugby, but in my meetings so far we’ve had all the other coaches in. It is important to ensure that everyone is equipped with the skills that will be required to play the game I want. Skill is what it is all about. We need players who can catch and pass while running at pace. That is the key to the attacking game. You can’t play attacking rugby without that.”


Jones is down to earth and a real coach.   He knows exactly what the Stormers strong points are and in the article indicated no real problems with the forwards - but it is clear he has a problem with the backline players starting off his remarks  with the need for a flyhalf.  I think that young Robert du Preez is a youngster with promise - but he needs experience and further development.  Jones referred to the need to contract a more experienced flyhalf - I am still hopeful that he can somehow get Goosen to come back and play for the Stormers.

He believes that there must be a strong junior players in the age group players and I think we will see Jones hand in their further development.

I believe that we will see a lot of new faces in the Stormers team next year - especially since three of their backline players are away on 7's duty.   

It would be interesting what Jones is going to do with the disfiunctional Stormers backline.  I think that players like Juan de Jong and Leyds will be searching for contracts elsewhere.   I think that the only player sure of a place in the Stormers backline is De Allende.    

 



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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:15
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12 Nov 2015, 19:15#2

They should work hard at getting Goosen over to the Stormers. I do like the look of young du Preez at 10 though......big physical player who takes it flat like Pollard does.


Eddie has plenty to work with:


15. Taute/ EW Viljoen

14. Kolbe / Senatla / v/Wyk

13/12. de Allende / v/Wyk / Kotze  / Huw Jones / de Jongh / du Plessis

10. du Preez / Coleman

9. Groom / Schreuder

1/3. Kebble / Koch / Malherbe / Wilco Louw

2. Scara / Mbonambi

4/5. Etzebeth / PSDT / Jean Kleyn / Ruan Botha

6/7/8. Carr / Kolisi / Schalk / Elstadt / Cloete / Notshe


No doubt there will be a few more acquisitions before the start of the season

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:30
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12 Nov 2015, 19:30#3
I would like Pat Lambie to move to the Stormers...a loss to the Sharks but who cares...nobody has any future under the circus that now prevails at the Shark tank...but a huge opportunity to be under the coaching of Eddie...he will prove his true worth that's been handicapped by indecisive coaches...in fact EJ will bring out the brilliance that is there...this would be to the national side's gain.
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:50
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12 Nov 2015, 19:50#4
Goosen, Swiel all young South African fly-halfs who may flourish and improve  under eddie jones managment 

Possibly Pat, but don't think he'd leave the sharks. Janjties if he'd leave the lions
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:50
#5
12 Nov 2015, 19:50#5
 Botha has signed for the shaarks.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:52
#6
12 Nov 2015, 19:52#6
 APD, There were rumours of Marnitz being pursued by Small when Goosen wasn't available. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:53
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12 Nov 2015, 19:53#7
 Keep Jantjies as far away from CT as possible please! 
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
12 Nov 2015, 19:54
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12 Nov 2015, 19:54#8
 Another decent choice, Boshoff has all the foundations at being a good flyhalf, he does a lot of things well without being spectacular and he doesn't have a lot of blatant holes in his game. It will be good to see how he improves if he does go to the stormers.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2015, 22:27
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12 Nov 2015, 22:27#9
 I liked him as well, but he is not the finish product yet and will only hamper the development of our other up-and-coming 10's AND he has already shown a lack of BMT. Hope I'm wrong about him though, regardless of him moving to Cape Town. Loads more potential than most other SA 20's.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
12 Nov 2015, 22:49
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12 Nov 2015, 22:49#10
 "Skill is what it is all about. We need players who can catch and pass while running at pace. That is the key to the attacking game. You can’t play attacking rugby without that.”
This bit does it for me, then again it's common sense although our history tells us it's not common to South African rugby.
One step for WP rugby, one giant step for SAFFA rugby.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Nov 2015, 11:22
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13 Nov 2015, 11:22#11
Denise have you found that evidence yet you lying scum bag?  
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