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Erasmus as Head Coach of the Springboks in 50 tests

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2025, 16:13
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11 Nov 2025, 16:13#1

The match against the Springbok Head Coach in 50 tests played by the Springboks - the 50th test was on Saturday agaibnst France lsdt Saturday:-


He was Head Coach during the periods 2018-10 and 2023 to 2025 - in the period 2021 to 2023 he was Director of Rugby involved in Management of Development programs in charge throughout South Africa iro All SA Super Rugby and URC frnachises was part of his function. The develpment of palyes resulted in S outh Africa has become the leading country in development of players in the world.


In his coach career the teams he coached .won the following trophies:=


Curry Cup 2005, 2006

URC - Munster 2017

Rugby Championship 2019, 2024, 2025

Mandela Chakenge Plate 2019,2024, 2025

Freedom Cup 2024-25

Qatar Airways Cup 2024, 2025

Prince Williams Cup 2024


WORLD CUP 2019, 2023


In his career he was the Best Coach of Rugby in 2017 (Munster)

Rugby Chapionhip Coach in 2019

World Coach of the Year in 2019


In the period Erasmus was Head Coach the Springboks win 37 tests in 50 played with the winning percentage 74%


Bearing in mind the above Erasmus was the Best Coach the Sprigboks ever had.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2025, 16:43
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11 Nov 2025, 16:43#2

The coach with the best winning record in international rugby (among those who have coached a significant number of tests) is generally considered to be

Sir Steve Hansenwith the All Blacks, who achieved an 87% win percentage.

Other highly successful coaches include:

  1. Sir Graham Henry (New Zealand): Coached the All Blacks to 88 wins from 103 Tests for a winning percentage of 85.4%.
  2. Mike Ruddock (Wales): Achieved a high win percentage of 85.71% in the Six Nations, which included a Grand Slam, but this was over a very limited number of matches (seven championship games).
  3. Sir Clive Woodward (England): Had an 80% win rate during his tenure with England, which included the 2003 World Cup victory.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2025, 17:06
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11 Nov 2025, 17:06#3

Woodward was more of a manager - added no value in terms of tactics or technically


One only needs to read his rugby takes or hear him in the studio to conclude he is no rugby expert


He had coaches doing the coaching while he took the glory

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2025, 17:17
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11 Nov 2025, 17:17#4

Woodward was more of a manager - added no value in terms of tactics or technically


That's SIR CLIVE to you, you disrespectful little shit.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2025, 18:19
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11 Nov 2025, 18:19#5

Mozart


Just give us the number of tets played by h e coaches you refer t, Also give us the nuber of trophies won bmy the t hree coaches to get a comparison of whatn the three cpaches achoeved. You are a very mentally deprved sick indivdual dimness,


I remmeber your comments onm this site when ERrasmus was appointed as Head Coach in 2018 - namely that it would have been better to retain Coetzee as Head Coach ahead of contracting Erasmus as Head Coach.. A hate-ileld BS ter supreme.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2025, 18:35
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11 Nov 2025, 18:35#6

MozartHall Of Famer

47,340 posts

Dec 03, 2017, 01:01


We had PdV, whose teams were largely self coached......and Coetzee who delegated far too much to Smith and Venter. None of these guys have been in charge. Now we have Rassie in the High Performance Centre apparently all set to pull the strings of a new coach.....the candidates for coach clearly being below the standard of the coaches of top international teams.

This is all nonsense. The Springboks are the High Performance Standard for the country. The best way to improve things is to get the Boks winning with positive rugby. That example will radiate out to all South African teams, down to school level.

If Rassie wnts to be coach, he should ask to be considered. Save the funds from the HPC, add them to the head coach salary and get the best coach on the planet. And above all, get a hands on coach who wants to be accountable.



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clevermikeHall Of Famer

56,353 posts

Dec 03, 2017, 01:32


What did we have as coaches over the last 13 years?

We had White - a good coach of forwards and utterly ignorant when it comes to backline play.

Then there was De Villiers whose garbage was so unbelievable that a clique of players took over with one objective - to protect their own interests without any regard to the interest of the team.

Next was Meyer - totally ignorant about any game plan and stuck on players he knew and as far as he is concerned believe that backlines are there to make up the numbers and to defend only. In competition with De Villiers and Coetzee as to the worst coach imaginable.

Then there was Coetzee - totally clueless as WP/Stormers coach and then based on the principle that everyone is promoted to his own level of incompetence was appointed as coach. The problem was not his assistants - the problem was the main coach.

Time to get an NZ coach and stop the rot.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2025, 18:37
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11 Nov 2025, 18:37#7

So there we have it, I utterly condemned Coetzee and suggested Rassie stop dicking around in the High Performance role and put himself forward as head coach. You wanted a NZ coach.


The egg flows like Niagara. Perhaps this will teach you to stop your disgusting lying, but your whole life is a lie, so why would you stop now?

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
11 Nov 2025, 18:48
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11 Nov 2025, 18:48#8

"The match against the Springbok Head Coach in 50 tests played by the Springboks"


Se weer?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2025, 19:02
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11 Nov 2025, 19:02#9

Sir Clive is such a Doooooos - no one likes him here

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2025, 19:52
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11 Nov 2025, 19:52#10

Mozart


What t he h ell h as dothatn to do with Ersmus appointmnt in A pril 2018.


Rassie knew thatn SA is self=desrtructing with shit like Meyer and Coetaee as coaches and when h e signed his contract with Munster there was a condition in his contract that he would be released is SARU needs him as SA Coach. That stateemnt about Rassie in your above posting was BS supreme as a result.


None knew at the time pf your posting whether SARU would fire Coetzee - but you got one point correct - SARU in fact send their President at the time and Roux late in January 2018 to Ireland to start negotiation with Erasmus to get the best ciach in th e world appointed. Erasmus set a number of conditions , namely if they want his services -


  1. He would accept the positon of Director of Rugby and in view of the upcoming RWC he would acy as Head Coach until after the RWC
  2. He will recommend.who should be appointed in the coaching staf and Saruwould apporve his recommendations'
  3. There would be no selection committee in future - the Coaxhes will select the squad and teams in future.


Realizing that the Sprin gboks were self-destucting - they even lost a test against taly in November 2017 - and the mpral of t he palyers were rock bottom.and SA ranked as the no 7 ranked tema om the world - SARU finalized his conract in April 2018 and Erasmus was faced with a major problem.


The first test against Wales was in late May 2018 followed by 3 tests against England was scheduled for JUne 2018/ Ersmius snd a team to Washinton to play against Eales, Consisting of 5 established Springboks to play against Wales- he rest of the squad were newbies and the test was lost Ny some emans Erasmus managed to get a team that beat England 2=1 in the June tests, The rebuilding f the team started and by the end of 2028and by the end of 2018 th impovmwnt ws ntable - but the rebuilding of a squad started and by the end of 2018 the eam was ranked 5th in the world. Id the 14 tests played in 2018 8 matches were won and of the 13 maches loat by 6 happned in 2018, Nobody in the world gave the Springboks even a remote chance to win the RWC in 2019.


So back to your hate remark you made in April 2018 about Erasmus' appointment - you thoroughly dsgarced yourself in April 2018 after his appointment was finally announceed. You are too ashamed to aconfirm that you made an utter fool of yourself.


In the emantime you side-track the issue/ I did not say Erasmus was the ebst coact ever. ub the Wworld - Said he was the ebst Springbok coach ever. So live with it shothole.


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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 20:57
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11 Nov 2025, 20:57#11

Do you speak for the entirety of England now, Saffolk ?! ;)

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:00
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11 Nov 2025, 21:00#12

Well all my English mates think he is a complete prick - let me guess you like him?

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:00
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11 Nov 2025, 21:00#13

No, I don’t rate him at all……and it was a joke !

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:05
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11 Nov 2025, 21:05#14

I still love you

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:10
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11 Nov 2025, 21:10#15

Awww I know you do :)

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:34
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11 Nov 2025, 21:34#16

Sir Complete Prick also has a ring to it.

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 21:37
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11 Nov 2025, 21:37#17

Bit harsh….

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
11 Nov 2025, 22:00
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11 Nov 2025, 22:00#18

Did Sir Clive receive his Knighthood? England and there titles….what a pain:)

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 22:14
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11 Nov 2025, 22:14#19

Yes, he is a Knight of the Realm

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
11 Nov 2025, 22:23
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11 Nov 2025, 22:23#20

Oh my goodness Becs, I just got a very sharp pain in my backside:(


Must be all these English titles flying about! :)


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2025, 22:23
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11 Nov 2025, 22:23#21

For his services to rugby after winning the 2003 World Cup, MP.


We're still waiting for Sir Jonny Wilkinson, of course.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Nov 2025, 22:52
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11 Nov 2025, 22:52#22

Poor Mozzie is a Never Rassie hatter so he

can't bear to give Rassie the credit he so richly deservrs

The Boks were in the doldrums when Rassie took over. Steadily he built the Bok squad and the rest is history to all but the Mamparas Union.

I saw a video today where Brown was giving credit to Rassie and saying the thing that strikes him the most is the way the players sacrifice for each other and the team. He said he had never seen anything like it before.

Rassie has built an extraordinary team culture. This all flies way over Mozzie head.

After all how do you statistically measure something like this. Hence Mozzie has a very limited appreciation of rugby based on faulty stays taken out of context. Hahahahahaha.

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 23:03
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11 Nov 2025, 23:03#23

Yes, Sir Jonny and Sir Martin have never appeared for some strange reason, Pakie.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2025, 23:08
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11 Nov 2025, 23:08#24

They deserved it far more than that pretentious twat - Woodward

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Nov 2025, 23:35
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11 Nov 2025, 23:35#25

They did. But it’s always the Coaches that get it.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 01:57
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12 Nov 2025, 01:57#26

For you Dumb Mike:


So where will Rassie alight

Forum » Rugby » So where will Rassie alight


MozartHall Of Famer

47,342 posts

May 08, 2018, 05:25


Rassie is a coach steeped in Bok rugby and Irish rugby, which are quite similar.....conservative, traditional role for the pack, a flyhalf who can control territory and a penchant for experience. He has also had his biggest success up north and will respect that experience.

So I expect more NH players than fans are expecting and a few stabilizing older Boks. As well as a tranche of new players of colour. The team could look like:

Willie

Lleyds/Nkosi

Am/Venter

Allende/Esterhuizen/Frans.

Dyantyi.

Pollard.

Faf.

Beast/Kitshoff

Marx/Bismarck

Wilco/Nyakane

Etzebeth/Willemse

Lomp

Du Preez/Stephanie

Kolisi/Louw

Vermeulen/Whiteley

Not necessarily my team, but ticking the overseas/experience/quota boxes and so quite possible.



8 players who played last Saturday against France

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 02:04
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12 Nov 2025, 02:04#27

Versus you Dumb Mike


clevermikeHall Of Famer

56,357 posts

Apr 26, 2018, 15:48



Mozart

There is a problem here and that is that some players ae looking good recently. Like Beast Nyakane is looking an improved player this year and that may be part of the influence of Mitchell n Bulls on player performances.

However, Rassie is going bananas here - it is not about individual players that excites him - it is how they compare with other players competing for the same position in the Springbok team. If they are playing better rugby than the players who "excites" Rassie are they going to be considered foe selection?

The "excites" statement is as nonsensical as Meyer's statement of he "knows what players are capable to do" forgetting that the same players were poor by the tine of the utterance.

Kolisi has ben shit-poor this year - is that what gets Rassie excited!!!!!!!!!!!!


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 02:05
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12 Nov 2025, 02:05#28

Stop telling lies about me and I’ll stop exposing the truth about you Saaiman….there, you won’t get a better deal this year.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 02:25
#29
12 Nov 2025, 02:25#29

What lies - Site Liar in Chief?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 03:37
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12 Nov 2025, 03:37#30

This lie:


remmeber your comments onm this site when ERrasmus was appointed as Head Coach in 2018 - namely that it would have been better to retain Coetzee as Head Coach ahead of contracting Erasmus as Head Coach.. A hate-ileld BS ter

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 13:03
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12 Nov 2025, 13:03#31

You wrpte that Mozart - I did not invent it . You are always snakeshit supreme as a liar and are just plainly disgusting.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 15:09
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12 Nov 2025, 15:09#32

Draad comment on your buddy Mike’s honesty..,,read the last few posts. Let’s see if you can finally put the truth ahead of tribal loyalty….without any sliming out.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:06
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12 Nov 2025, 20:06#33

Mozart


There sis no Kraal and has not been sinmce he 1950's. I h ave never been in a kraal - no aorry Iam wron g I regularly went to the kraal where my father's Jersey cows were kept

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:16
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12 Nov 2025, 20:16#34

Tribal se gat, I've skipped over most of this nonsense...the Boks are better now than they've ever been in the last 40 years, yet you are complaining more now than when we were in the doldrums for years...yes, ou Maaik is full of sh!t, but you are even more so...this nonsense are so fcn stupid...stop looking for the negatives! The glass is half empty because we just drank it...and there's more where it came from.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:19
#35
12 Nov 2025, 20:19#35

No Man DB, Drink less!:)

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:25
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12 Nov 2025, 20:25#36

Rubbish I have never deliberately lied on this Board….Mike does it every day. There it is 10 posts above…a flat out lie. Call it.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
12 Nov 2025, 20:56
#37
12 Nov 2025, 20:56#37

The Grumpy old men . . . each one absolutely convinced he's right and the other is a liar.


The levels of childishness we see from these two makes me think senility is fast aproaching this board's resident geriatric double act.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2025, 21:54
#38
12 Nov 2025, 21:54#38

Actually senility is thinking Columbus’ sailors had been vaccinated and that time stamp’s change when posts are edited.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Nov 2025, 06:35
#39
13 Nov 2025, 06:35#39

"This lie:


remmeber your comments onm this site when ERrasmus was appointed as Head Coach in 2018 - namely that it would have been better to retain Coetzee as Head Coach ahead of contracting Erasmus as Head Coach.. A hate-ileld BS ter

"


I can't remember if you said it or not...I do know that you always disliked Erasmus...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2025, 07:02
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13 Nov 2025, 07:02#40

This is what Clever said on the Du Toit rating string:


Another joke is you supported 10 man rugby played under White and Meyer and calle it "Traditional Springbok Rugby" until 2017 and - then surpirsingly turned that term around and said "Traditional Springbok Rugby:: was not played while Erasmus was coach


Wheras I actually said this, which he knew because he responded to it below. He has told this lie before and been corrected before:


Nov 12, 2025, 05:14



Best decision Rassie made this year

Forum » Rugby » Best decision Rassie made this year


MozartHall Of Famer

47,347 posts

Nov 25, 2018, 17:45


1 Bringing back our traditional physical game

2 Bringing Faf back.

3 Switching Thomas back to loosehead.


And your response Saaiman, showing you know I credited Erasmus with bringing back our traditional strengths:



clevermikeHall Of Famer

56,361 posts

Nov 26, 2018, 09:44



Mozart made valid points 2 and 3 and AO came back with a bugger-up. Point 1 could be true - but for a weakened lock combination in most tests and a poor selection of two of the three loosies - his decision to play Du Toit as a loosie was spot-on - the other three loosies used was way off the radar.

Was Snyman better than Etzebeth and even than Du Toit starting in one test at 4? No way - even when Etzebeth was lukewarm in most tests he played in. Although never used - Schickerling was better in SR matches than Snyman and so was the rarely used De Jager. Another brain fart - AO?


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