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Five lessons that should have been learned by Boks

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2015, 12:36
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19 Jul 2015, 12:36#1

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Five lessons from the opening round of the Rugby Championship, according to SIMON BORCHARDT.

Pre-planned substitutions can backfire (Please note CC - as I pointed out to you)
Bismarck du Plessis had an outstanding 49 minutes in Brisbane, before being replaced by Adriaan Strauss. The Boks, who were leading 20-7 at the time, suddenly lost a couple of lineouts and started to struggle at scrum time, allowing the Wallabies to come back into the game (Blame also heineke at loosehead). Heyneke Meyer's pre-planned substitutions were done to keep players in the mix and give them game time ahead of the World Cup, but the match was far from safe when they were made (I CAN TAKE THIS LOSS ON THE CHIN IF IT MENT MEYER HAD LEARNED SOMETHING LIKE CULLING MATFILED OUPA AND HEINEKE FOR STARTERS - THEN THE SUBS WILL HAVE BEEN WORTHWHILE). Du Plessis had been the best Bok on the field and should have stayed on for much longer.

Schalk Burger can be a like-for-like replacement for Duane Vermeulen
Burger showed in Brisbane why Meyer decided to start him in the No 8 jersey ahead of Warren Whiteley, who had worn it against the World XV. Burger is a more physical player than Whiteley, whose linking game doesn't suit the Bok game, and has a similar skill-set to Duane Vermeulen. The 32-year-old played the full 80 minutes, gaining 30m from six carries, forcing a couple turnovers and making five tackles. If Vermeulen doesn't recover from neck surgery in time for the World Cup, Meyer will be glad to have Burger around.(PRETTY OBVIOUS STUFF ALL ALONG AND IT TOOK NO GENUIS TO RECOGNISE THAT BURGER COULD PAY 8 WITH DISTINCTION)

The Boks need to learn to close out games
When Jesse Kriel scored an outstanding try early in the second half, and Handré Pollard slotted the touchline conversion, the Boks led by 13 points and looked set for a bonus-point win. But they sat back on that lead, failed to hold on to the ball and didn't kick accurately out of hand, which allowed the Wallabies to fight their way back. The Boks also had numerous opportunities to score again, and put the result beyond doubt, but failed to take them. Hopefully they will learn from this defeat and ensure it doesn't happen again if they find themselves in a similar situation at the World Cup.

The All Blacks are vulnerable when defending lineout driving mauls
It would not have escaped Heyneke Meyer's attention that both of Argentina's tries against the All Blacks in Christchurch on Friday came from lineout driving mauls. The hosts put too many players on one side of the maul, which allowed the Pumas to rumble over with relative ease, with a furious Richie McCaw lashing his players on the second occasion (wHERE WAS WEE MCAAAAW WHEN THE pUMAS SCORED THEIR SECOND ROLLING MAUL TRY! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH). The lineout driving maul is one of the Boks' biggest strengths and you can expect them to use it often against the All Blacks at Ellis Park this Saturday.

The All Blacks are making greater use of short restarts
Dan Carter gave his side the best possible chance of regaining possession from restarts in Christchurch by kicking the ball short, often only just over the Pumas' 10m line. While Carter hasn't travelled to South Africa for the Ellis Park Test, it's something the Boks should be expecting from the All Blacks on Saturday no matter who wears the No 10 jersey

P ITY WE WILL BE AT ABOUT 50% WHEN WE PLAY THE WEE ABS. WILL IT BE ENOUGH?.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Jul 2015, 12:57
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19 Jul 2015, 12:57#2
Beeno: you are ahead of schedule as your pre-game excuses normally start on Mondays
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:09
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19 Jul 2015, 13:09#3
 Hi JW, I cannot find Beanheads pregame post re Boks will win the Test hands down. Dont tell me Beanhead sneakerly tried removing the post before he thought anyone noticed. Talk about putting your whole leg into your own mouth.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:13
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19 Jul 2015, 13:13#4
 Hi Hakwa !Well he was prolly hungry  seeing as how his vege diet is probably making him all lusty for meat .So hence the legs in the gob thingy .
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:18
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19 Jul 2015, 13:18#5
Hi there hacked waaaugh I was wondering when you would show up like the proverbial bad penny! Ou warped DUD has done his best to play the nutter in your abasence and has succeeded spectacularly!
We threw the game away to give guys a chance via pre meditated subs. Trouble is our daft coach, who is dafter even than any kbbs, is drawing all the wrong conclusions.
Fire the coach, send the show pony packing, get rid of quoata players and lets do what we can to win the RWC. Always remembering a Bok side at 70% is usually enough given a fair and competent ref.
Trust a kiwi TMO to shaft us. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:23
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19 Jul 2015, 13:23#6
 
Hey Chubs ... still throwing stones ... not wise when living in a glass house.

Now before you get that fatty filled heart of yours all a beating and become all emotional ... learn from the wise ...

Oh and didn't I tell you to put that pork pie down??

What's the matter with you , Fats??

Beandip ... not sure where you got the idea that I favour using the bench no matter what.

Meyer doesn't have the brain to select a strong match 23 nor does he have the ability to play the match tactically from the sideline.

He's a loser ... a lost cause ...

 
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:24
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19 Jul 2015, 13:24#7
No Beanhead that was all your own doing. From Bismarcks attempted clearance kick, to Burger caught behind the gain line, to Straus going backwards in the scrum at knots to your replacement prop illegaly sealing off the ball. This was a Wallabies Team that was playing together for the first time.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:28
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19 Jul 2015, 13:28#8
 Anyhow nice to see you back hacked waaugh as JW needs some help!
CC I have questioned your premature dumping of Jean but thats all?
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:41
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19 Jul 2015, 13:41#9
 
Ok.

Tell me then, why would you have the better of two benched or playing out of position?

Not only does De Allende tick all the boxes ahead of Jean but Jean has to now contend with the mind games that an injury of that nature obviously brings.

Jean was great.

I just don't want another John Smit debacle. 

Select the best player in each position and choose a strong captain to unite them.
 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Jul 2015, 13:54
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19 Jul 2015, 13:54#10
 So clut you really are a fatty are you ? Obviously seeing as how the subject seems to upset you so ? Did my picking onyour friend hit a sore spot ? Do you really have such a prediliction for pies that you feel the need to mention them so often ? Was it a pre-emptive attack to cover your girth ?I really dont care what you shove in your mouth so why does my calorific intake fascinate you so ? Are you dieting to lose that fat gut of yours ? Do you want to live vicariously imagining men eating pies ?You really have some strange obsession there .I presume that theres a site to cater for you ?Good luck with that and cheers porky !
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 14:15
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19 Jul 2015, 14:15#11
 
And your point is??

Come now Chubby, surely you can muster a better comeback than that feeble attempt?

Try to post something that'll touch a nerve ... like I did ... ok, Fatso??

Now try again!!!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Jul 2015, 14:30
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19 Jul 2015, 14:30#12
One lesson Bok fans seemed to have missed is consider yourselves lucky because the Wobblies could have done much better if they got their selections right.
Just imagine if Wobblies selected their best back-line & started Phipps and Toomua & if they selected po.ock. When the Wobblies made these changes we saw a different level of play. So it is not just that Meyer got tactics, subs & some selections wrong it is also that Wobblies got things wrong also.
What would the margin of Wobblies victory be if the Wobblies got it right?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Jul 2015, 14:49
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19 Jul 2015, 14:49#13
Hi Haka: our mate Beeno has a new ploy, i.e. he makes a prediction & then gives a percentage for the quality of the team selections. This is a new version of excuse making & pretty sophisticated. I wonder if Dr. Moz gave him some help

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 14:54
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19 Jul 2015, 14:54#14
 
Well I never ... can it be possible ... ??? ... never thought I'd see the day ... Just Win does indeed have a brain and can actually think for himself!!

And to think, that in all this time, I regarded his primary function as this board's copy and paster.

I stand corrected!!


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Jul 2015, 14:58
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19 Jul 2015, 14:58#15
Glad to see you are capable of learning CC
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Jul 2015, 15:00
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19 Jul 2015, 15:00#16
 So you reckon you touched a nerve ? How exactly ? I see that you have a thing for chubby guys but your barking up the wrong tree there lumpy ,you are an old lumpy geezer arent you ? What arent there any women on here to trawel with your sad old guy come ons ? So you get off on thinking about me eating your fave pies eh ? eerrghh ..get a grip ..or not .See ya creepy !
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Jul 2015, 15:12
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19 Jul 2015, 15:12#17
5 things learnt:
Meyers confirms he is utterly useless and an insult to Bok rugby.
Matfield is a liability and Lood is twice the player......you need physicality at test level....Lood and others provide that.
You can't play with 3 openside as your loosies even if none of them are true open sides.
Pienaar is a waste of space at 9
Malherbe is better than Jannie at 3 when partnered with Beast and Bismark. Heinke v/d Merwe is not a test players backside.....Meyer thinking he was about sums useless Meyer up.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 15:12
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19 Jul 2015, 15:12#18
 
Hmmmmmm??? .... not bad ... still a way to go though.

I'll give you a 3/10 for that attempt.

Keep trying.


WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Jul 2015, 15:18
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19 Jul 2015, 15:18#19
 Well I know you think your a pscychological demon eyed troll of the first order but...obvios troll is a wee bit too obvious old chap .You should stick to trawling through DeviantArt .....
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Jul 2015, 15:34
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19 Jul 2015, 15:34#20

You really are a bitter man, Chubs?

I'm not the one shoving those pies down your throat.

You did that all to yourself ... deliberately ... for years on end ... pie after pie after pie ... and whatever else was within reach ... washed down with gallons of beer ...

Don't blame me fo r your condition, Fats.

Still ... there is always hope ... thing is though ... do you submit to that calling pie and keep feeding your ravenous face ...

I guess you'll need to grow a spine first, Fats ... somehow I doubt you have it in you ...

A spineless fat slob.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
20 Jul 2015, 07:03
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20 Jul 2015, 07:03#21
 Hey baldy ,you should see about transplanting some of that hair from your gut and shoulders to that barren pate of yours .Then all those girls at the bars you prop up with that hairy old man gut mightnt laugh quite so hard behind your back .Dont tell me your going to step me outside on the internet are you old fella? Would be in keeping with someone the wrong side of 60 and no real clue s. Cheers  [ I would call you gutless but that wouldnt be right now would it ?] old man .
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