Fox, Moz and Ceradyne:

 You can add Morne to playing at 12 as well, but that would have ou Tokkie and Saffex making backflips and crapping in their Sunday School dresses again.

What they don't know could fill a book. But Dave makes up for that by writing long lists. Or as I like to call them, future rugby obituaries. It's like that movie Deathnote. 

 Two of the three Village Idiots supporting each other's BS.  They must be hoping no 2 turns up as well.  Let me be straight - Morne is a sh!t 10 and a sh!tter 12.  Useless - because he is incapable of ever attacking the gain line.
Frans also played at 10 and 12 - both with the same result - the sabotaging of backline play - Morne is second in line in that.
Mention a start ball-sense player when the issue relates to two of the dimmest robots in SA Rugby.  That is stupid beyond believe.   Carter can play in various positions because he is a ball-player.  Morne and Fat Fransie cannotbecause they mess up any form of ball play.
So happy Idiots Day to both of you.
        

 I bet you cannot even remember a single that Morne played at no 12, you plank.

Ah the mob is howling this morning. Let me help. Kriel  and Allende are different cases. Kreil has no senior rugby at 13. His performance in the tests has been way above any reasonable expectations. Allende is very hard to put away...no doubt. But that's all he offers. He hasn't learned the finer arts of centre play after two full S 15 seasons....and it's looking increasingly likely that won't change. And his tackling is unacceptable in the position, inside centre, that is the fulcrum of the defence.

Start ball sense player?

"Draad, (1)I don't think that you would find a post where I said that De Allende is not the answer for the Boks at 12. I did not pay very close attention during the game and have not yet revisited it but I am also concerned about our defence in the midfield. I remember that I wanted to have a look at De Allende in particular but I got distracted  a number of times during the game. I did see a number occasions where I thought to myself that (2)he was totally out of position and there was the odd occasion where he looked a bit hesitant to defend or to move away or something. I don't know what exactly it was but his body language, at times, looked like he was unsure what to do or where to be. On attack, of course, it is a total different story. He seems to eb quick to decide what to do and where to go. I got more or less the same feeling about Kriel on defence but less so than De Allende.

(3)One thing that I have to say, and I have said it before, I jumped on Saffex' back when he punted Kriel for outside centre but in hindsight, he got that one correct. I was of the opinion, when the initial squad was announced, that it should have been between Kriel and Willie to start at fullback, and the other one as the starter's sub on the bench. (4)It now seems that Lambie looks to be - correctly - the cover for Willie and Pollard. Then, lurking somewhere in the background, there is of course Morne Steyn. But I would rather not go there because that would cause another brand new explosion of seismic proportions. "
1. Well that's why I asked, and if I understand you correctly, you want to see more of him in that position before making up your mind, me too.2. He is a bit nervous on defence, but I think that will get better as he finds his feet at test level. It does not help his case when playing with rooks on either side of him. Pollard also slipped a few tackles, which added to the pressure. It does not worry me too much at this stage because he does not shy away from contact. It's more like hesitation and that should get better as all the players start to be a team. It was only their 3rd game together.3. Agreed, I still think it's stupid to play someone out of position, but it looks like it's the Bulls and not Meyer that's guilty of that one in his case.4. Lambie is a confidence player and he did not play enough at 10 this year to have his confidence high. It looks like he will wear the "utility back" tag to the RWC.
I'm of opinion that our 10, 12 and 13 brings more to the game on attack than they take away on defence. I think the defence can be fixed by coaching and will get better as they start to get familiar with the structure in the team. Yes, mistakes were made, but our defence were tested against to very good attacking teams and it seemed to have stood up well...Oh, wait, we still lost?True, but we made a few tactical blunders here and there and had some bad luck. We competed more than well in both games and were beaten by a whisker. Not all doom and gloom. Once we get a couple of wins under the belt and the belief kicks in, we might win a few of these close encounters in the future.

 Mozart
"But that's all he offers. He hasn't learned the finer arts of centre play after two full S 15 seasons....and it's looking increasingly likely that won't change."

I am always amazed about the prejudice and consequential idiocy on this site.  This from the Village idiot who has not seen facts:-
*   The player with the highest number of tackle breaks in Super 15*   The player who was in the top 10 in line breaks and effective off-loads of balls*   The player who was rated as the best 12 in Super 15 in 9 of the 16 games he played in.*   The no 12 center regarded by 90% of the commentators as the best 12 in Super 15 this year.
Now that is in the absence of the "finer arts of center play".   So what is this "finer arts" that you throw around if it has nothing to do with performance?  I would like to be enlightened and informed who in SA Rugby has the "finer arts" that De Allende according to you lacks.
     

Damian's problems on defence are too severe for a coach alone to fix. 

 BS as per normal.  I ask Mozart a question and you responded with your horror show in defense lie.  He did miss some tackles in the Aussie match admittedly - but then he made 21 tackle attempts which is excessive for a center to make.  Making 15 tackles in a match is NOT A HORROR SHOW.  Fat Fransie would not have attempted 6 and he would have missed at least 2 of those.   That is below his average number of misses per game.  Against the AB's there was nothing wrong with his defense - so what the hell are you bad-mouthing about?  
Normal unadulterated BS from the person who says that De Allende lacks upper body strength - the biggest idiot ever.  Just one question - how do you explain the difference between the above factual situation and your comments on De Allende?  

Out with the old and in with the new.