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Goosen or Lambie at 10?? Who and why?

Started by Boklogic50 REPLIES1,195 VIEWS· 22 Jan 2013, 07:44
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EkPro1,464 posts
23 Jan 2013, 11:26
#41
23 Jan 2013, 11:26#41

Capone, I like your Lambie at 12. This solves alot of issues on attack i think. I would however change that a bit.

9. whoever feeds fast and is in form/ Ruan for Tactical Game - Nooo Kockett, not a fan have never been, good player but I don't like his attitude.

10 Goosen

11 Habana

12 Lambie

13 Steyn ( If he loses a bit of wieght. I would like his size and pace on the outside as Lambie and goosen aren't the biggest okes artound and we need at least one big guy there.)

14. Peterson

15 Taute.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:16
#42
23 Jan 2013, 13:16#42

With repect - if Steyn does not make it at 12 - he will be a disaster at 13.   He is way to slow and too interested in crashball to make it further out from the flyhalf.   Do not specifically like Lambie at insid center as well - but can live with that.

My future backline would be as follows:-

15     Taute

Wings :   Pietrsen and Habana

Centers :   13   Jordaan

                  12  De Allende/Lambie

Fkyhalf   :   Goosen/Lambie

Scrummie :  Reinach

Notes:

*   Pietersen and Jordaan playing together for the Sharks was a deadly combination.  Jordaan would even made Habana looking better than he already is.

*   De Allende has a number of advantages over other contenders - he has speed, a very strong boy and strong runner (can break the line) is a top off-loader of balls in tackle situations and has all those aspects Steyn lacked in this year.

*    I still prefer to see that Goosen and Lambie compete for the flyhalf position and will use them on a rotation basis.

*    Hougaard is not my idea of a scrummie - he has limited ball skills and ball sense and cannot read the game.  I prefer a youngster like Reinach.    He has some way to go though.

I will watch carefully all theaboveplayers in Super 15 and as time goes on comment on the progress of the above players. 

*  

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:21
#43
23 Jan 2013, 13:21#43

Boklog I CAN say Goosen is a better flyhalf than Lambie because he is just that. I dont even think its close, I really rate Lambie be it at 10 or 15, more so at 15, but Goosen at 10 is the real deal. This kid has the x factor and will prove to be the best 10 since readmission I reckon.

 

It would be complete madness and a classic case of letting SA rugby down if Goosen was ever wasted on the bench. No coach would be that stupid and its just not going to happen. No coach would ignore Goosen after that performance of his against Oz.......that performance set the standard and blueprint for what is required at 10 for the Boks.

 

Goosen is a certainty to start at 10 and therefore logic dictates that Lambie should be selected at 15 and not wasted warming the bench. These two selections are amongst the easiest ones to make. Goosen at 10 is one of the first names on my teamsheet, along with Frans, JP, Bismark and Etzebeth.

CA
CaponeClub Pro176 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:29
#44
23 Jan 2013, 13:29#44

Frans who? Not Frans "dontknowmyassfrommyelbow" Hougaard, I hope.

Not Frans "fatbellygettingintheway"  Steyn either ... surely??

As one of the first names to go on the team sheet???????

Please say it's not so ... PUHLEEEEEEEAAASSSSSSSSE SAY IT'S NOT SOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:32
#45
23 Jan 2013, 13:32#45

Yeah that will be Frans the lad who along with JP achieved the highest player ratings of all the Bok backs against England - maybe there was a reason for this???????????????????????????

CA
CaponeClub Pro176 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:51
#46
23 Jan 2013, 13:51#46

Well, well, well ... ain't that a kick in the head.

Must confess ... never saw that coming.

You came across as a knowledgeable sombody.

A Hougie fan I'm afraid upsets the applecart a tad.

That is one lad I do not rate at all. Not as a scrummy (no talent what so ever), not as a wing (too small, poor work rate) not even as an orange peeler left back in the change room.

When it comes to selecting the Bokke, his name doesn't even come to mind.

Sorry ... we differ here big time.

Also your comments on the Goose being vastly superior to Lambie. On what do you base this. The test match against Oz? Don't you think that's jumping the gun a bit?

We will see hopefully this season what he can do. He has shown potential. He has talent, sure. Cooper did the same and then he exposed himself as inconsistent. A fraud. Nothing to write home about.

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jan 2013, 13:58
#47
23 Jan 2013, 13:58#47

Capone

Those ratings are made by some journalists and if the suit fits them  - liberalluy used by members to augment their imaginary arguments.

Frans Steyn - whose only noticeable contribution in the POMS test was when he had to make a relieving defnsive kick five meters from the goal line and the ball rolled along the ground putting the whole Springbok team off-side nd gving the POMS free reign as a result. Francois - whose only idea seems to be crashballing and doing nothing with the ball and did not have one single game to show he was not mediocre.

Frans Hougaard - who was rightfully dropped as scrummie after his fifth diusaster and went on to disgrace himself on the wing. 

In the case of Saffex both are preferred candidates - after all he prefer mediocre backline performers.

CA
CaponeClub Pro176 posts
23 Jan 2013, 14:22
#48
23 Jan 2013, 14:22#48

I can see that now, CleverMike!!

Some people, even though they have something staring them in the eye, still refuse to acknowledge it and persist with their nonsensicle ignorant comments - it just drives me insane. 

One can't have a discussion with them. They get all emotional and before long a hissy fit overcomes them tipping them over into a complete delusional state. 

Poor dear!!!! I guess we had better be a little patient with the lad. Clearly he's not well.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jan 2013, 14:39
#49
23 Jan 2013, 14:39#49

Capone

I do not agree with you about Goosen - he is talented  and showed massive skills for the Cheetahs last year and for the Springboks in Pretoria.   He is no showpony like Cooper - but a brainy player.   In many ways Lambie and Goosen are alike and there are some elements where Goosen has the upper  hand and others where Lambie is better.   Very little to chose between the two of them and I am  delighted that we have two great flyhalfs available in SA.

 

CA
CaponeClub Pro176 posts
23 Jan 2013, 14:46
#50
23 Jan 2013, 14:46#50

You are right ... the man has talent ... of that there's no doubt.

We are all writing him up as though he's the next best thing to Dan Carter. I need to see a little more before I jump onto the same band wagon. That's all.

There's more to a class player than just raw talent. You know that.

Let see what this season produces.

I'm looking forward to it - big time.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jan 2013, 14:58
#51
23 Jan 2013, 14:58#51

Al pretty fresh coming from a clown who has just exposed his rugby ignorance by declaring that Hougaard is talentless - wow that is almost as bad as Beenkop telling the world that Matfield was crap.

 

Its good to see we have anothe dumbass on board - welcome aboard sir or is it madam, I wish you a bumpy ride!!

 

Your thoughts on Kings of Leon while you are at it?

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