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Hansen feeling the exodus sting; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Apr 2015, 18:57
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14 Apr 2015, 18:57#1
The decision of All Blacks flyhalf Colin Slade to head to Europe after the World Cup has made coach Steven Hansen very aware that the exodus of New Zealand players is not yet over. Slade is the 10th All Black so far to announce he is heading offshore at the end of the year, to join French club Pau. Still to confirm their post-World Cup futures are Julian Savea, Sam Cane and Ryan Crotty and, coupled with expected retirements and the impact of the Olympics, coach Steve Hansen is bracing for a difficult 12 months following the World Cup in England. Cashed-up European clubs, who once targeted players in the twilight of their careers, assisting the All Blacks into an easy rollover of talent, are now creating a talent drain by luring up-and-coming stars. Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder, who stands to lose two flyhalves to French clubs in Dan Carter and Slade, put a positive spin on the losses. "It's a good opportunity for some young guys to put their hands up and for us to start again almost," he said. But with the New Zealand Sevens squad also able to call on All Blacks for the Olympics next year, Hansen admitted 2016 would be "one of the most difficult years" for All Black rugby. "Not only are we losing people as it's time for them to go overseas or retire, and we've lost one or two other people we didn't want to lose, but we're also going to lose some guys to the Olympics," he told stuff NZ. "We could lose up to 15 players out of our current 31-man squad - which is massive." The 17-Test Slade may not have been the All Blacks' first choice flyhalf, but he was crucial to Hansen's plans because of his ability to cover wing and fullback, his sound defence and coolness as a goalkicker. New Zealand's player exodus also includes Carter (Racing Metro), Ma'a Nonu (Toulon) and Conrad Smith (Pau), who are near the end of their international careers. But Charles Piutau (Ulster), Francis Saiili (Munster), Tom Taylor (Bayonne) and Frank Halai (Wasps) are just starting theirs. Tight forwards Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester) and Ben Franks (London Irish) are also considered valuable squad members while not necessarily first-choice selections. Talismanic skipper Richie McCaw, 34, deflected questions about his future, but the indications are he will retire at the end of the year along with fellow Test centurions Keven Mealamu, aged 36, and Tony Woodcock, 34. With the bank accounts of the European clubs bulging, New Zealand Rugby Players Association chief Rob Nichol expects more All Blacks to depart despite the effort going into keeping them in the country. "They've [European clubs] still got another couple that they're working through, but we'll just let that process pan out," he told Radio Sport. "We're going through that two-three month frame where guys are making really big decisions about their future. "You've got guys that are committing [to New Zealand] and you've got guys that are heading overseas. We certainly feel that we're taking a bit of a hit at the moment but it's a long-running battle." At Super Rugby level, in the space of 12 months the Crusaders will have lost three All Blacks - fly-halves in Carter, Taylor and Slade - while former New Zealand Under-20s star, Tyler Bleyendaal left for Munster last year. "It's a concern every time you lose a player because it's taking away another brick from the wall, and if you take too many away, eventually the wall will fall over," Hansen said. "I understand in some circumstances there's a really good reason for some people to do it, but in others I just wish they'd hang on and chase their dream a bit more." AFP
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Apr 2015, 18:58
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14 Apr 2015, 18:58#2
 Shame to lose Slade to Europe even if it is temporary. He has developed into a fine player and bounced back from some horrific injuries. Real talent & character. I hope he will be back.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2015, 23:54
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14 Apr 2015, 23:54#3
 I have always rated Slade highly and felt that he is more consistent and reliable as a flyhalf than Barrett and Cruden.  However, Slade - at the age of 27 may feel with justification that his road to international selection is barred by the two players mentioned and that probably counted heavily in favour of his decision to rather makes his fortune in Europe. 
Most of the other departing players are already past their best and there are indeed doubts whether some of them should be anywhere near the present AB side.   I think that the AB side would find the talented younger players to replace the golden oldies even in the shorter term.   What should really worry them is if players like Cane and players of his generation of players depart.
Where will $BW head to next?        
AW
Awesome1Rookie81 posts
15 Apr 2015, 00:43
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15 Apr 2015, 00:43#4
 The Crusaders are the ones to suffer most given Carter and Tom Taylor are also leaving. Who will be their next standoff? 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Apr 2015, 00:54
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15 Apr 2015, 00:54#5
 Wonder why Les Bleus  are struggling ? Could it be they are buying up imports at the expense of local talent ? No wonder native French players are p!ssed off when they cant crack a run on for a French club let alone compete against all the newly minted 'Frenchmen ' in the national team who think the "Marsellaise " is some form of condiment .
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 01:09
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15 Apr 2015, 01:09#6
 Wardad
I am afraid that what you stated above I have written repeatedly in the past.   Too many imports clog up  a lot of positions in the Top 14 tournament allowing for too few French players to come through in those tournaments.   Where the French clubs attracted younger players as well some of them ended up as playing for France as well.
Even though the present situation can enhance rugby as a game in France, it has a negative inasmuch as it stifles the development of local players in key positions.        
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Apr 2015, 02:19
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15 Apr 2015, 02:19#7
 Ali Williams thinks the southern migration is bad for international rugby Link to article
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Apr 2015, 08:50
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15 Apr 2015, 08:50#8
The professional era, not much they can do about it. People go where the money is. The IRB could enforce a cap of two or three foreign players at a club, thereby forcing clubs to reduce the number of foreign players.
From a players point of view, I get it, rugby players don't normally have very long careers, so why not cash in while you can?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Apr 2015, 08:50
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15 Apr 2015, 08:50#9
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2015, 13:34
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15 Apr 2015, 13:34#10
Makes for sad reading.....more so for the Kiwi's as they don't select overseas based players  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Apr 2015, 14:10
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15 Apr 2015, 14:10#11
Kiwi will select players who have played overseas if the come back & play for local teams, eg SBW , so it is bad losing these players but the ABs will fell they effect but not as dramatically as it first appears,
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
15 Apr 2015, 14:27
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15 Apr 2015, 14:27#12
Gosh.....and now you all finally start to realise what folk like me have been saying since the game announced it was going professional !! Well, you caught up eventually !! And yes, we did all say it would turn the game into a form of second rate football too....but hey ho, what do we know ? All professionalism has done is suck the soul from the game and make a few people very rich. Let's hope it was worth it. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Apr 2015, 20:39
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15 Apr 2015, 20:39#13
Here is a different opinion, Fitzy says they will be back as long as the Black jersey has it's pull Lin
Anyway there is no way the tide of professional rugby could have been stopped & the sport has grown in part because of it. Young players have the right to earn a wage. Nevertheless the money will continue to result in changes some of which we won't like. 
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