Hey Denise, yes Denise

You initiate a post calling me a liar, I refute it and ask you to provide evidence of your assertion only to be met with this clear evidence of your ducking and diving ie your GUILT

You have been exposed for the pathetic liar you are......am I going to let this go......NO......this board will be polluted with this crap until you apologise or provide the evidence

The choice is yours  

 keep it going....

Would it be possible to keep this altercation to one thread instead of starting a new one every 5 minutes?

 well if you won't stand then the obvious thing to do is to sit.
Why don't you?

 You own me? You have to be kidding and hey while my arse points  to the ground you in for a never ending wait. Chow now.

Yeah I won you.....take as long as you like - I'm going nowhere.......you can run for a few days as you usually do but the minute you return I'll be on your deceitful back......run rabbit, run rabbit, run, run, run  

 Actually Dope I own you.......you're waiting on me, I'm not waiting on you!

 Dave y ou lied about your opinion on Nonu....the lie is doc.umented on the Board.

Moffie provide the evidence you fucking prick, trust you to fuck it up as well......equally stupid as Denise.....but join the party......lets just see if you are man enough to provide the evidence, for we know your lap dog is not  

 removed...removed... removed...Sounds good.

Keep ducking Denise  

 Geez Dave you are coming across as unhinged....what's happened, been ejected from the fen or something? Let us share your pain.

 If I could just weigh in with my thoughts, I've done some searching and I can't find anywhere where Dave has said that Nonu is 'average' or has 'butterfingers'

Only could find him saying that Nonu was past his best in the last few months but to be fair we're all guilty of thinking that may be the case as Nonu hadn't put in a vintage display for a while. It's hardly a stick to beat Saffex with, Nonu really did pull it out the bag this WC, and kudos to him. 

What else I found was when listing his top 5 centres in the world Dave had Nonu down there.

Is anyone surpised by this? Moffie and Dense have proven themselves to be both cowards and liars over a long period of time. Why is anyone surprised that they're too gutless to admit their lies and who seriously thinks either of these two disgusting human beings might be man enough to admit to lying about anything?
Dave, get over it. These two reprehensible slugs are not worth the effort and you're not adding any value to the board with this campaign.

I can only add that Saffex has actually told me off good and proper, in the past, when we have been discussing Centres because he has highly rated Nonu and I have not rated him so highly !!! 
That is the only time I recall us discussing him personally......but I don't think it ended too well  

" If I could just weigh in with my thoughts, I've done some searching and I can't find anywhere where Dave has said that Nonu is 'average' or has 'butterfingers'

Only could find him saying that Nonu was past his best in the last few months but to be fair we're all guilty of thinking that may be the case as Nonu hadn't put in a vintage display for a while. It's hardly a stick to beat Saffex with, Nonu really did pull it out the bag this WC, and kudos to him. 

What else I found was when listing his top 5 centres in the world Dave had Nonu down there."
Daddy feel free to weigh in and out of respect for you I'll give you an response. Firstly the issue goes a lot deeper than what's on the surface and it has deep seated roots in what has happened in the past. Not your concern but I'm giving you my perspective seeing that you've decided to "weigh in." I'm not going to cover everything but I will point out certain issues that's brought this about.The thing about Nonu being an average player with butter fingers is neither here nor there and it's something I brought up with Saffex a while back, he denied it then at a time when he and others were singing the said man's praises. Firstly I don't recall accusing Saffex of lying in this example as I can't find the post but I did call him a liar with regard to his statement about always rating the said player. The Liar allegation I made was based on the post Mozart found where Saffex claimed that Nonu was "past it" which clearly contradicts that he has always rated Nonu. That post is till floating around.All that can be washed aside because we all make mistakes, when I say all I'm including myself but what irks me is that Saffex is beyond reproach and he has gone on record as saying that he has never lost a rugby argument and that he is always right, furthermore anyone who disagrees with him cops a bucket full of abuse and insults.You would have seen this with your own eyes hence the reason I refer to him as a "World Authority."So, I've taken it upon myself to poke him in the ribs when I see a need.Only last week as an example I posted a nonsense about one of Saffex's favourites Lood De Jager, I said he was a media hype. Anyone whose read my previous comments on the said player would know that I rate him, as an aside I know Mozart doesn't, I do, but I posted that to entice an reaction from Saffex. Clevermike disagreed with me and gave his reasons but the frothing Saffex waded in with abuse and insults, totally uncalled for. The man's immaturity is mind boggling. This forum prided itself on zero censorship, he has been the prime reason why we now suffer censorship with foul language being removed. You'd think he'd stop.Why do I and others have to sit back and suffer his abuse? What does it matter if I think that Wynand Olivier is a carthorse and he doesn't?And here's the bigger picture, our membership is stagnating. There are reasons why. We are not going to encourage new members to stay if they are to suffer his abuse.Anyone who's had a go at attracting new members will tell you how difficult it is, you should try .....as a matter of fact just under four years ago when Beeno, Mozart and myself joined here this board was in it's death throes....ask around, there's plenty who know. I personally set about growing the board and it worked well as membership grew in leaps and bounds with the idea of creating a board with international membership as opposed to just SAFFAS. A rugby family.Well I can tell you now that even though I'm tempted to recruit.... I won't for fear of new members suffering abuse and insults on a mere disagreement.
No-one here has the right to abuse their privileged position, we don't pay for membership, we are all visitors and we owe the owner common decency by respecting his wishes.As I've said earlier I won't cover all of the issues but that's enough for the time-being. I rest my case.

Denny, that's all sound mate, all I was weighing in with was the bit about Nonu being 'average/butter fingers', which as far as I know wasn't said but like you said that's by the by. 
Plus, I'd add that being 'past it' doesn't necessarily mean you don't rate a player, it could just refer to being past their best but still a good player. For instance, I think over the WC, Matfield was decent but he was still past it. Habana was good but also past it. And I suppose you could argue JP, Jannie and Beast too. Obviously I still rate all of those, but they're by definition 'past it.'  I'm merely playing devil's advocate here as I don't really know what Saffex meant but there's a possibility there was just a misunderstanding? 

For what it's worth, I don't agree with some of the names being thrown about above this post about you. on the contrary, I think you're a good poster, I don't really have a problem with anyone on here - the forum would lose something if anyone left. 

Here we go again . . . the same pitiful and attention-seeking "I started this message board and no-one appreciates me" garbage from Dense.

Dense, I'm not sure when the penny will finally drop but please note that your odious and humourless personality, your foul mouth, your complete ignorance on all sporting matters and your low-breeding have actually chased many potential posters away.

Rather just shove off if you're feeling all victimized and sorry for yourself. No-one cares about you or your whiny attempts to take credit for this board and no-one is here because of you. Okay? Now shut up and speak when you're spo ken to.