How dom was that!

Meyer is a decent man and passionate about the Boks etc. However his approach to this game was as dom as it was against the wee abs!The Argies are a physical side so he decides to play the papest lock ever to play international rugby. Wee matfield then looses the ball in contac as he is always dominated and then fails to clean out as he cant budge a flea. Poor Beast has to scrum little support at scrum time from the 105 kg lightweight. Then wee matfield is suppsoedly so great in the lineouts and kickoffs - (Kickoff were alsoa problem). He calls the throw ins to the other lineout forwards and only takes a few himself. However against Japan who have no lineout ability he call all the ball to himself. With this simple ruse he fools his delusional groupies with consumate ease!Why didnt Meyer start with Lood and give Du Toit a nice run. Only he and the EGG strewn matfield groupies know.But celebrations must abound as the most disasterous player ever in the cause of Bok rugby history must finally be gone.But as lame as limp wee matfield was more damage to our cause was done by Meyer and his daft tactics once again. Here I refer of course to Pienaar emulationg Fourie Du Preez in kicking our ball away repeatedly. The Argies then retain possession for long periods and all we can do is tackle. One dom commentator repeatedly said the Boks were being forced into make tackle after tackle. We were not forced but gave our possession away against a team that loves to mount pahese after phase. This had two outcomes. Firstly it ruined out backline attack opportunities. Secondly, it is an exhausting way to play the game!!!What was needed was a player like  Faf de Klerk - the most dynamic scrummie in the super 15 bar none (Outplayed Aaron Smith by some distance). He should have started with Reinach with his blistering speeed on the bench.
Meyer simply doesnt see the game being played any other way than to kick away possession. I seriously doubt he has the tactical nous to compete at this level and his player selection, apart from quotas forced on him, is also not great. Looks like we need a new coach.
Nice to see Trevor getting more involved. Malherbe landed more EGG on Dr Mozz and cohorts. Lood and Eben are simply the best two locks playing rugby. Strauss added energy to the pack. The loose trio was good with only a bit of pace being an issue.
The sad conclusion was that Meyer lost the plot some two years ago and never kicked on.

 Congrats to the Boks, well played Argies. The Argies tried to play but did not have the offloading they had in prior games. 

 JW I am not concenred about the Argies who are improving every season.I am most concerned that once again we played dom rugby kicking away possession and spending long periods of the game defending. That is as daft as anything the dark duck has ever done.I cannot think of a more stupid strategy that we could have employed. 
It looks to me that Meyer has to go. Will he be saved by the fact Du Preez and Pienaar should be gone? As well as wee matfiled!!!!!

 I found myself wishing Paige would come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beeno, yes from what little I saw of the game it was a poor one. Boks simply putting up a defensive wall, in the tackle grab the guy & hold him up to try & get the maul & win the ball, if it goes to ground send in the fetcher... repeat endlessly.
There is hope Beeno, come and be an AB supporters, take the plunge & lower your misery levels, switch to the ABs. It's tough but fate may well determine that you take the leap.

 JW its hardly a step forward supporting a team who should have lost to the Boks even though the Boks were playing dom rugby.
Try and be reasonable oak. The wee abs are way over hyped and should not be in the final and neither should Oz.

 Ex Super rugbyMore egg lkands on Dr Mozzz the Fix and cohorts!

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer likened this contest to “kissing your sister” a week ago and with the muted atmosphere it wasn’t hard to see, at times so flat that it resembled a training game. If World Rugby are really serious about making the World Cup a bigger spectacle then a game like this should be scrapped, no matter what it means to the tournament revenue.

Still it was hard to get excited about a contest where both teams looked out on their feet, and incredibly unwilling at times to take too many risks.

That was probably understandable from a Springbok perspective, where Meyer would have felt his job depended on the result, but it also showed a side that is intent on their own low-risk game plan that they stifle their own creativity.

When the Boks did try and run, and they did more in this game than in any of their knockout matches combined, they looked stale, unable to find the space and unwilling to be as bold as their public wants them to be.

But to give the Boks all the blame for the stale match would be harsh. In the end it is still a test match, and needed to be won. But their lack of enterprise has been the biggest whip they’ve given their critics to beat them with. They may have ended third in this World Cup, but the disappointment of losing against Japan earlier on and against the All Blacks will continue to haunt them, with unanswered questions still remaining about the future of the side.

The Bok team will be remembered not for the games they grinded out for victory, but rather their lack of adventure, their low-risk approach that may have got them to third, but never looked like getting them all the way.

And Meyer certainly does have questions to answer. Why when the Boks were 24-6 up and in control of the game in the last 20 minutes, did he persist with Ruan Pienaar and not give Rudy Paige a run? Paige was again the last substitute on the field with less than five minutes left, when he certainly could have started this game.(Paige is not in the class of Faf De Klerk or Reinach but I was calling for his introduction early in the match)

Third place may well be “acceptable” as defence coach John McFarland said earlier in the week, but more was expected of this Bok team and their own laager mentality after losing to Japan hasn’t helped them much.

So there we have it. I am afraid Dr Mozz , the Fox and and cohorts will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the real,brand of Bok rugby. T ime to throw out this impostor

 Who are the candidates for HM's job ?  No foreign coaches to be included .

A real winner knows when to quit. Guess Matfield, JDV and Schalk never saw that meme.
Totally agree on Faf, Trevor, Malherbe and would actually love to see Redlinghuis(spelling), Kitshoff(spelling) in the mix along with Jaco Kriel. A young, strong and dynamic pack that could play together for many years to come. Combined with the youth in the back line, there is a serious long term team that has the potential to emerge. 
Saru, and only Saru would be able to duff this up.
As many critics as Greame Smith had, he is to this day the Proteas most successful captain. He was given the captaincy early in his career, very early. And i wonder if maybe the Boks should follow the same route. It would certainly be a better option than hanging on to old guys for their "experience". 
Waiting for Cera to wiki the shit of me with more successful captains that took over captaincy later in their careers haha

 cerudunce always get is wrong! HahahahhahahaIndeed Plum only saru could get it wrong but the chances regrettably are high that they will.

 blobbok
This issue was discussed repeatedly in the past and it was clear that Meyer did not meet requirements.  Meyer is a limited coach - his knowledge are based on what he introduced while coaching the Bulls.  No knowledge of backline play was included in that experience.   The scene basically was for the flyhalf or scrumhalf to kick the ball, for the 12 to crashball  and for the rest to pass balls to the forwards - nothing else really counted,  
There was abundant evidence of that in the present tournament - an example was in evidence yesterday.  A turnover was won and the best thing Pienaar could think of was to kick the ball straight to the Argentine full back handing possession back to the Argentinians - it constantly happened all the time.
I call it BS and I think most observers would agree with what has been produced this WC and the main problems in that was Pienaar and Du Preez.  Du Preez was slightly better than Pienaar - but that was an easy achievement.  Both in fact were useless. 
I could live with Meyer as a coach - but his assistants should be fired and the idea to use a forward as an attack coach is grossly inappropriate.  Just to think that Matfield was the atatck coach of the Bulls and was involved with the Springboks is indicative of the need for a a total enema necessary in that case.                

Maybe one day some people will come to realise that in the final stages of any competition, the important part is to win the game. Beautiful, flowing, running, expansive and whatever else you want to call it, means nugger all. 
Having said that, how k@k was the "enterprising" captaincy towards the end of the game by Duane Vermeulen with those penalties. His crap captaincy was only topped by Pollard's execution thereof. And a lot of people were punting Vermeulen for the captaincy. 

 I still think he is the only real option as captain ATM.

This is absolute BS from the Dimmest BS on the site.  Winning rugby does not entail playing clueless and predictable rugby.  Matter of fact that is losing rugby.   We played a injury denuded Welsh side and abrely managed to scrape out a win with clueless rugby - we lost against the AB's doing the same and now this dumb BSter crows about the Springboks beating the Argentinians.
What we played yesterday was the same brand of rugby that lost us half the games we played from the RC last year.   
The dumbest C U N T that ever captained the Springboks was the useless Matfield.   He was in the game because Meyer wanted to give him a farewell game.  His decision-making of using forwards when the ball was supposed to go to backline players are really the worst.  Perhaps he wanted it because he was constantly moonlighting in the backline frustrating the real backline players.   The kicking game of Pienaar was the pits - a nice way of giving back to the opposition hard-won possession.   If Matfield knows anything about rugby - he would have nipped that idiocy in the butt 
The idiocy reigned  supreme as per normal.  Asked you in the past to stop interfering with infantile idiocy when adults discuss issues.    
             

F@k maar jy bly maar so toe soos 'n kleios se gat. I was talking about this game in particular and the final stages of competitions in general but you are firstly too thick to refute what I have said, and secondly too blinded by your deep rooted hate for Matfield that you cannot put two sentences together to make any a sense. 
It is a waste of time and effort to read through that entire piece of "aasvoëkots" that you have dished up. 

We tried the enterprising running game in the RC and were outdone by all three opponents; our centres were unable to create anything or make any meaningful contribution.

 df as per usual you fail to see the point mike is trying to make.
one be tactically inept in various tiers not just one. the boks actually look a lot better with ball in hand than with the boot.
winning rugby is total rugby all facets need to be on song and the like of the aussies and nz are way ahead of us there. 
if you kick and you cannot find grass dont kick simple basics.if you do kick followup not kick 30 meters ahead of one poor chaser that is trying to make a bad kick a good one. 
losing possession in the modern game my dear old df just turns over the ball to attacking based patterns that will run at you all day long until you crack on defence. just takes one mistake and its 7 points....
the meyer fiasco does not even try to ask questions of the opposing teams defence and meyers game plan with stupid predicable kicks that you can read a mile away when the no 9 pivots his legs just once again shows the massive gaping hole there is in our pattern and the rest of the world's pattern.
stats have some the games nz has lost was games they did not win more than 50% of the ball possession stakes but people like myself and mike and the rest of the posters must should be burned at the stake for our far out views it seems.
df if you enjoy this mindless drone rugby may i suggest taking a strole to a local primary school and enjoy aimless players running around. yet i do think there is more collective intelligence in there play more so than the drivel we were forced to watch this past rwc

 "The dumbest C U N T that ever captained the Springboks was the useless Matfield. "
A confirmation of what a spineless revolting lowlife s c u m b a g ou Tokkie really is.

 Dofdoos
The return of Matfield to play test rugby - or for that matter any rugby - was the dumbest thing anybody with a brain could do and that was the basis for my utter disgust of this player.  He was what I said by doing what he did in the last 18 months.   .  

 Ou cerundunce windpomp getting it all wrong again. Listen to uncle Mike windpomp. He and Muncher are spot on. You could learn a lot!
The strategy adopted by Meyer is putrid. The domest rugby ever!
I had high hopes after the test with the abs when our backs ripped them apart. however Meyer fouled up big time. The game we played against the Argies is the final straw. Mayer has not got the brain power we need.
Lets just hope that other dimwit Alistair Coetzee doesnt take over. Will we ever get it right.
All I can say is thank heavens for tennis. I have been watching the superb WTA finals. Radwanska has to be the tennis player with the highest tennis IQ and skills - male or female. Its a really decent game. No cheating etc. Next to nothing in gamesmanship. Just honest competition.

Tokkie is a very strange old bachelor who loves the kids and hates older players. I mean literally hates...for eample above on Matfield. All his favorites who become his avatars are pretty boys. The pattern is totally obvious. The conclusion is obvious...totally bent.

 Well look how rediculous sharkbok looks with the slim boet matfiled avatar - would you buy a used car from the villain!. Obviously not!  
Much rather have an avatar of a real lock like Steph. A powerhouse lock who doesnt shirk the rough stuff like long hair airlight, wanabee backline player wee victor.

 I do not like BS from any players and that is why I take a strong stand against BS players and those have been flagged by other posters as well.   It si not addicted to any specific players.  I have no addiction to anybody and my avatars are of those sportsmen I admire for the contributions they make.
Afe has nothing to do with the players I admire - performance remains the key.  
Mozart always find it impossible to counter factual arguments and he then turn personal with all kind of BS stories.   I am not interested in anything he constantly alludes to.
What is wrong in his case is the constant addiction to older players in the desperate effort to deal with his own situation.      

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 Ou cerundunce windpomp getting it all wrong again. Listen to uncle Mike windpomp. He and Muncher are spot on.

 That bis a new one from you Beeno. Never thought that I would see you defending someone who calls someone who he doesn't know a C U N T. Puts you firmly in the same bracket, IMO. Come on. Nail your colours to the mast. Do you agree with that or not?

 Dofdoos at it again - just ignore the twit Beeno.  

 Wat? Kots jy nog steed ou b eesblaas?

Mike ... Not liking and having an opinion on a player is one thing, but your obsessive vitriol and pathetically juvenile personal attacks smack of someone who needs serious professional help. From the bottom of my heart I pray that you are not a South African because if you are you embarrass us all. I don't care how many posts you have or how much you think you know you sir disgust me.