MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Jul 2015, 17:46#2
What a fine turn of phrase.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Jul 2015, 17:49#3
3 Jannie du Plessis (South Africa): One of only two players to keep their place in our weekly selection, Du Plessis highlighted his value for the Boks, despite only lasting one half. He's one of those players South Africans love to moan about, but his scrummaging over the last fortnight has secured his ticket to the World Cup.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Jul 2015, 19:40#5
I liked this part:The 32-year-old, along with his fellow Sharks front rowers - brother Bismarck and Beast Mtawarira - have had the upper hand against both the Wallabies and All Blacks at scrum-time this year.
Our locks had the upper hand and when Vermuelen and Coetzee are back the Bok pack will really demolish the wee abs!Hansen is a worried man.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
27 Jul 2015, 20:37#7
They had troubles last year with Eben and Lood as well last year! The Matfield haters were very quiet on that.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2015, 20:50#9
Disaster
What problems are you talking about? There were bigger problems with Matfield buggering up two line-outs in the tests against the AB's last year and then going to pieces in the EOYT. Matfield was BS before he went off the field against the Aussies - De Jager was ten times better than he was. And our scrum improved without Matfield in the Aussie test. That is certain proof that Matfield turns our Tight 5 into a Tight 4.
Anybody not seeing that is suffering from a serious degree of lack of rugby knowledge or is preferring not to see what is really going on with Matfield.
DEDezertFox
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27 Jul 2015, 20:51#10
It's true. The first Argentina test had Bakkies with Lood, the next had Eben and Lood! We were clouted at scrum time in both games. Fact.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2015, 20:54#11
True Fox, but putting the blame on the locks alone is stretching reality a bit.
DEDezertFox
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27 Jul 2015, 20:57#12
I'm not blaming the locks. I just noted how we struggled with and without Victor. I also noted in the past that our flanks were not contributing at scrum time.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2015, 21:05#13
In both cases the problem was with Jannie and in the first test the sh!tpoor Steenkamp and in the second test it was Jannie and Beast.
If you Matfield at 105 kgs contribute to scrums, you must have your head read - you are seriously delusional.
I second DbDraard's comment : Fox BS
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2015, 21:19#14
Fox, yes you only "noted" but imlied all the same,... not?
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2015, 22:31#17
Blik, the lad did exceptionally well, coming off the bench, too early, replacing the god of locks in SA. He did not deserve to be anywhere near the team, but he grabbed the opportunity regardless. There were some other locks more deserving of a spot on the bench, but it looks like an off form player was given the nod, to make an old hasbeen look good when replaced in the last 20? Stupid conspiracy BS from me? Of coarse, but why else play a rook of a couple of failed tests from the bench when we have in-form players to make up the numbers? Lood did not deserve to be there. Why was he on the bench in the first place? Good on him for making the most of it.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jul 2015, 22:38#18
Wrong Blik, Lood was just as good last year....he was very good in a poor Cheetahs side in last years S15 side......making the TOW on a regular basis.
Lood has always been good.
Its testament to how poor Meyer is given his call for the return of Bakkies and Matfield.....when we have the likes of Etzebeth, Lood, PSDT, Willemse, Jacques du Plessis, Ruan Botha and Lewies.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Jul 2015, 23:39#19
Last year the Bargies owned Lomp, hard men who brooked no nonsense. This year Lomp has faced Simmons and Broadhurst....whooo scary. Not! The only worthy opponent he faced was Whitelock....for 19 minutes.
I fully agree he was good on Saturday, but let's see him confirm that form against better locks.
DEDezertFox
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27 Jul 2015, 23:43#20
Only two players in your list have shown anything at test level: Eben and Lood. So no. But Victor still offers a lot. His work rate is still much higher, his leadership still excellent, his lineout prowess still such that the opposition shuffle through their options helplessly. To say Victor does nothing is a lie that has been debunked.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 00:13#21
Oh what utter rubbish.....the Argies did not come close to owning him.....utter garbage......that is about as accurate as your take of Matfield schooling PSDT this year.....another joke
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 00:15#22
Fox stop speaking utter fucking rubbish.....Matfield is an old man playing a young man's game.....he is utterly useless these days.....the biggest liability in the Bok side since his return......a physical liability......a joke at test level.
DEDezertFox
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28 Jul 2015, 00:34#23
Not even close. The biggest liability has been your man Damian?
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Jul 2015, 00:36#24
Fckkk Fox, at the start of the season you had Eben as lazy and Lood as useless. Make up your mind.
DEDezertFox
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28 Jul 2015, 00:40#25
Not once did I say Eben was lazy, and my concerns were in 2012 and 2013. What I have said all through this year is Eben looks hungry. Lood has been nowhere this Super rugby season, so what's your point there. You are straining for coherency.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2015, 00:41#26
Fox is a joke.....worst rugby observer I have ever come across.....he is so bad that at times I think he is just taking the piss.
No-one can possibly be this rugby ignorant - surely??
BObobbok...
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BObobbok...Captain10,129 posts
28 Jul 2015, 01:14#27
Ag nee ouDawie, Fox undoubtedly has his moments but that crown remains firmly on your sloping forehead . You asked the question .
DEDezertFox
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28 Jul 2015, 01:24#28
Really? Want me to post your foul up where Barnacle schooled you again? Lol! Where are all your big picks? Nowhere. And it appears I was once more correct with Damian. The videos there if you think you can put your money where your incessant blab hole is. I back up what I say foo!