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I see Cheika is....

Started by Denny13 REPLIES688 VIEWS· 13 Jul 2015, 12:42
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Denny
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jul 2015, 12:42
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13 Jul 2015, 12:42#1

hyping up Quade Cooper....remember him? ...well maybe not, won't knock you if you don't, co's he was the wonderboy everyone was ooing about until they found out what a gutless wonder he was....in fact he was that gutless  they made him hide behind the goalpost as the last line of defence.....and that mind you was in a World Cup semi final!


Damned if I know how any player can hide in a WC but hide him they did. Well another WC, a new Wallaby coach and although Cheika's no fool he must be desperate to run with Cooper....cos once a yellowbelly....always a yellowbelly.


http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/150713/Cheika_boosts_Cooper

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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jul 2015, 12:57
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13 Jul 2015, 12:57#2
Cooper is an awesome player.......more measured these days......skills to create like no other.....I am 100% behind Cheika on this one......pure class is Cooper.....that's the difference between Oz and NZ, they embrace the likes of Cooper, we instead find favour in useless plodders like Morne.....go figure  
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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jul 2015, 13:20
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13 Jul 2015, 13:20#3
Denny 
I cannot remember - but was Cooper not the Aussie flyhalf when they beat us in the WC in 2011 and in the Brisbane test in 2012 when we were destroyed in the game?  Cooper is a thinking flyhalf - Morne Steyn is a robotic one.   Huge difference between those two.      
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Beeno1
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13 Jul 2015, 15:25
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13 Jul 2015, 15:25#4
 Talented player and as snapster says is maturing. Its worth a shot.
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bluebok
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jul 2015, 15:44
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13 Jul 2015, 15:44#5
Tough one! He is talented, no denying that, but would any of you back him as your flyhalf in a World Cup final? 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jul 2015, 15:49
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13 Jul 2015, 15:49#6
Yes without doubt I would.......I'd back him with one arm in plaster ahead of a useless 10 like Morne  
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bluebok
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13 Jul 2015, 16:41
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13 Jul 2015, 16:41#7
Not so sure Saffman! But I must also admit, I have seen very little of him this year, so I may be unfairly judging him based on his hothead performances of the past. Reds games were not at the top of my to do list this year!
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Claydog
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14 Jul 2015, 00:21
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14 Jul 2015, 00:21#8
 He does seem calmer this time around but like I have said before, he can win a game and just as readily loose one. Trust him in a WC final? Depends on which Quade turns up.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jul 2015, 06:17
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14 Jul 2015, 06:17#9
 Bluebok
Cooper had very little game time this year because of injury, but when he did play he was a marked improvement in a sterile Reds backline.  As Claydog said - it depends which Copper turns up on the day.
I must agree with Dave though - Cooper has ball sense and tries things - Morne Steyn lacks that and is clueless at best.   Cooper is an international level player - Morne is not since he has one positive only - he is accurate in kicking at goal.  
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Denny
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:23
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14 Jul 2015, 11:23#10

 Mike, you and Dave have dragged Morne into this blog, why I don't know, my post had nothing to do with Morne and it wasn't about comparisons between Cooper and Morne either.


My post had everything to do with Cheika trumping Cooper which comes as surprise after he failed to deliver at the last WC.


If you care to remember his defence was useless and Nonu ran rings around him, as a matter of fact he was  used as a last line of defence.....now go ahead and tell me I'm wrong.




 

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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:27
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14 Jul 2015, 12:27#11

Denny.....the last WC was 4 years ago......Cooper has been sound in defence for some time now and while still as creative as ever, he has also refined his game somewhat in general........you need to move on from 4 years ago......a coach with any credibility would embrace the talents of a Cooper......only a conservative fool like a Meyer, would not......I can see the rumblings already......our own Copper, being Willie le Roux is being bashed for the odd mistake and there is now talk that Lambie is going to be our 15, with Willie moved to wing.......typical conservatism.......not to mention Morne being touted as our 10 because Pollard missed a few kicks in his last game......and we wonder why we keep coming second with coaches thinking along these lines.


Hell our national coach still thinks 38 year old Matfield is a world beater at lock.......heaven help us  

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15 Jul 2015, 09:07
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15 Jul 2015, 09:07#12
 Its a great shame to see the poor sportmanship of the kbbs when it comes to poor Cooper. They just cant get over the loss of this guy to Oz!! 
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15 Jul 2015, 10:45
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15 Jul 2015, 10:45#13
Beeno: yes we would rather he was given to the Boks. Kiwis are checking his family history to see if the has any claim to SA citizenship. We remain hopeful  
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Denny
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Jul 2015, 11:39
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15 Jul 2015, 11:39#14

 "This weekend will be an interesting one."



My thoughts as well.

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