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I see our centres struggled against the USA

Started by Saffolk 14 REPLIES277 VIEWS· 08 Oct 2015, 15:07
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2015, 15:07
#1
08 Oct 2015, 15:07#1

Bwhaaahaaaaa


Kriel - 8 runs, 41m gained, 3 clean breaks and 5 defenders beaten, 1 try scored


de Allende - 8 runs, 50m gained, 3 clean breaks and 8 defenders beaten, 1 try scored - what about that great offload as well


Yeah lets drop these two, they are crap!!

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Oct 2015, 15:36
#2
08 Oct 2015, 15:36#2
Kriel could not pass. Blew that try opportunity after Morné put him away. There was another. 
Damian was good enough, considering that he had time and space. The try was soft though. Against direct physicality and tight defence, it's a different story altogether. If the USA test is your litmus test, then you have low standards. 
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
08 Oct 2015, 15:49
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08 Oct 2015, 15:49#3
Fox, Bryan Habana was over the try line and simply had to dot the ball down, and somehow managed not to score the try. Is he a bad player all of a sudden? Yeah, didn't think so. So Kriel made a poor decision and probably cost us a try, Bryan couldn't catch a ball that was straight in front of him and already over the try line, and cost us a try. All players get it wrong, even the best of them! 
One thing I will say, I am very worried about Mvovo. His try should not have been awarded, and in my opinion he is a liability. Pietersen and Habana will obviously be our first choice wings, but if he is the next best if one of them are off the field, then we have a problem! Even against the US he looked vulnerable, and almost (actually did) stuffed up a simple try finish. He is much like Lambie in my opinion, lots of hype....not much else.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2015, 15:51
#4
08 Oct 2015, 15:51#4
 Dim Fox
So what do you know?  Your lies about De Allende covers a book - but lalow me toe explain something to you that is wrong about Kriel's methodology at center that you have not seen and knows nothing about.  
it is relatively simple - when De Allende broke throu tackles and he is in space he has the hand in both hands and can pass either side of him.  When Kriel does the same he kept the ball thrust against his body and does not often enough take it in hand allowing him to pass the ball to either side rstly enough,   It is not too difficult to chang that minor deficiency. 
By the way dimness you center who are better than BOD did not have a convincing game on Saturday playing in a team that had the upper hand  so to believer you about center performance is definitely not advisable.     
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Oct 2015, 16:08
#5
08 Oct 2015, 16:08#5
Bluebok, Mvovo has it all as far as the hardware is concerned but the software is suspect. 
Michael, Kriel has not shown an ability to create, only finish. We have a wing and fullback at centre.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2015, 16:23
#6
08 Oct 2015, 16:23#6

Spot on Blue, Habana spills a ball and nothing is said, Kriel does the same and these clowns bang on.


Hell I could do the same about Morne's useless goal kicking but I am not that pathetic as I know he is a class goal kicker, just like I know Kriel is a phenomenal attacking talent who can catch a and pass a ball.


DA was huge again, that handoff of the Yank flank was monstrous.


Fact is Kriel and DA had good games, with DA getting MOM


More egg on these ignorant clowns faces   

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Oct 2015, 16:51
#7
08 Oct 2015, 16:51#7
Habana is a proven entity, Kriel is not. What has Kriel created i n all his tests? I know he is an elusive runner, but what about passing? If he hasn't done it before, couldn't do it yesterday, why should I believe he can do it against Wales or Australia?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2015, 17:04
#8
08 Oct 2015, 17:04#8

There is nothing wrong with his passing at all....we have seen plenty of this kid......passing has never been an issue - what utter garbage


Its like saying DA is not phenomenally strong  

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Oct 2015, 17:16
#9
08 Oct 2015, 17:16#9
Damian is strong in his legs. Where are these imstances where he runs over opponents and these monstrous carries? Reference them.
As for kriel, where has his distribution been a factor for the Boks?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2015, 17:26
#10
08 Oct 2015, 17:26#10

Damian is strong in his legs and upper body you fool, look no further than the ridiculous number of defenders he beats per game, the majority being through sheer power.


Hell did you miss his handoff of the Yank flank, what about the number he did on the Samoan prop


When has DA been rocked back by another player one on one, what utter rubbish


Kriel will have made many a pass in the time he has been a Bok.....I certainly am not pathetic enough to have a list of them all.


I did however pick up on the brilliant offload by DA yesterday, classic SBW stuff  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2015, 18:01
#11
08 Oct 2015, 18:01#11
Habana was not over the try line...he was diving for the ball, and just as he was about to take possession it did a rugby bounce.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2015, 18:13
#12
08 Oct 2015, 18:13#12
Rubbish, Habana missed and easy opportunity to pick that ball up and score ......but so what it happens, its rugby 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2015, 18:30
#13
08 Oct 2015, 18:30#13
 Was he ever over the try line with the ball in his possession....nope. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2015, 18:49
#14
08 Oct 2015, 18:49#14
 He was sliding along the ground and would in the process have gone over the goal line if he got the ball properly under control. At the end of the slide he was in fact over the goal line. 
However, that was not the issue discussed it relates to the issue of Kriel - which you called weak and  De Allende which you and Dim Fox has demonised for many months now - disregarding anything he does and making unsubstantiated claims as if they are gospel.
I explained a relatively minor technique problem that Kriel has - which should have been corrected long ago by the coaching staff of the Bulls and of the Springboks,  Thar it was not corrected was entirely due to the dud coaches of the Bulls and the Springboks (both the backline and attack) coaches involved.   It will likely only be corrected next year by the new Bulls coach and his staff.        
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Oct 2015, 19:07
#15
08 Oct 2015, 19:07#15
Dave, stop looking at the stats sheet and tell me where those runs over opponents are. 
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