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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 May 2021, 00:48
#81
17 May 2021, 00:48#81

Faf is expendable. His skills are very poor. We don't need Pollard, as we don't play off our 10. 95% of what Pollard does ball in hand is get ball behind a POD and passes to the playmaker behind the next POD or the connector between the two. We can plug in almost anyone else to do that. The gameplan simply isn't built for more. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2021, 00:58
#82
17 May 2021, 00:58#82
I see no Gatland comments about CJ and your take on mid year tests is a load of utter shit Oink oink
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 May 2021, 02:10
#83
17 May 2021, 02:10#83

This from the local press in Limerick:

‘CJ Stander faces stiff competition for a starting place from Wales star Taulupe Faletau but the 31 year-old nonetheless looks very likely to make the wider squad. Stander signed off his Ireland career with a high-quality Six Nations campaign and has remained at the heart of both Munster and Ireland’s greatest days since his last Lions tour. Selection would see Stander finish his career in poetic fashion back on South African soil where it all started.’

If Stamp signed off his Irish career with the 6 Nations.  But his own words were that he was available for the  mid year tests. What tests could those be if they didn’t include the Irish National team. 

That’s right only the Lions.  All Lions tests are mid year tests...  Oink, Oink, Oink!

Stay down Dave, you are looking pretty foolish.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 May 2021, 02:25
#84
17 May 2021, 02:25#84

Unteromlett is a very stubborn breed of Dummkopf 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 May 2021, 05:26
#85
17 May 2021, 05:26#85

If ever there was aa one-dimensional flyhjalf it was Morne,   Totally clueless and  totally predictable.    So Morne played for the wrong team?    Sure he did - he was so useless at Stade Francais that he because their bench-playing flyhalf,    When  a fgme was ibn doubt they would never bring him on.   I remember a game where Stade Francais had a try bonus point.     He buggered up so badly when he came on  that the  opposing team scored a try and eliminated the bonus point.    just a question before we have  a drama on site, do you know how the bonus  poit system worked in French club rugby?           

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 May 2021, 07:18
#86
17 May 2021, 07:18#86

But he was MOM on Saturday playing for a South African team that knows how to use his talents.Who cares about the Frogs.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 May 2021, 11:01
#87
17 May 2021, 11:01#87

Morné was good in France. I actually watched a number of his games. They won big games with him at 10. The Frog who was supposedly better still has that loss to Krasny Yar hanging over his head (the one Lügnerin saw Morné "bugger up" without being present in the starting lineup or the bench). 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 May 2021, 11:11
#88
17 May 2021, 11:11#88

I rewatched  the game and their was om incident where he did  make a pass  with a huge overlap on  his  outside leading to a try being scored,    The match was won when in the second half the Bulls forwards got the upper hand  and started scoring forward tries.   The only exceptions were the try I referred  to already and another scored by the replacement  flyhalf  Smith.

So it is crazy season open again.    Two weeks ago when De Allende got the MOM in a match - you derided the MOM story - but  when  Steyn got one it was the real thing.    Morne  is still the same as he always was - in a competitive game he remains a match loser.  

By the way White has huge amount of money provided by the Bulls owners to contract players and  he onviously o not regard Steyn of longterm value,   Steyn entered into a one year contract when he returned  froim France last year and the contract is up during this year,    White has already contracted Goosen as flyhalf and there is yet no indication that Steyn/s contract will be renewed.                 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 May 2021, 11:27
#89
17 May 2021, 11:27#89

Kindergarten Imbecile 

Your watching of games is not at all relevant - either you lie about games or  you did not watch the games at all and write garbage about what happened,    If  Morne was any good. why was he and Alberts on the next plane to SA  after the Meyer disaster was fired by Stade Francais?    Remember Stade was very relieved to get rid of Morne and he was going  to Brieve before Meyer was appointed at Stade - but then Meyer convinced  him to stay at Stade,  As clueless Mey er was as coach at Stade - so useless was Steyn at Stade.             

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 May 2021, 12:18
#90
17 May 2021, 12:18#90
There's delusional, then there's nutjob delusional and then there's this . . .
"I've brought an extraordinary amount of material to the table over the years . . ."
LMAO!
First off, Omlett, self-praise is no praise at all and secondly, what you have "brought to the table" over the years has been the biggest pile of steaming drivel that only a complete rugby noob might post . . . like your statement that the only thing a flyhalf has to do is pass the ball to his #12 . . . or your idea of playing Skulk at flyhalf . . . or Zane Kirchner is better than Israel Folau . . . or your insane hatred of Pat Lambie and other world class players . . . or your laughable claim that the Springboks road to the RWC2007 final was so tough . . . seriously, have you ever been right about anything rugby related? Even once?
Even ou Maaik and Baboon-ou know more about rugby than Omlett . . . and that is saying something!  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2021, 13:22
#91
17 May 2021, 13:22#91
Moz is that your best shot some journalists from the local post? The only person needing to stay down is you, because you have searched the internet long and hard to find evidence telling us CJ was available for the Lions series. I asked for evidence from CJ himself or Gatland giving reason for not selecting him and you have come up with zero. Who is looking stupid here? I’m going by what CJ said in his emotional interview after his last game for Ireland. He said that was his last test, for he was retiring from international rugby and that the only rugby he would be playing was for Munster till the end of their season. Ding dong
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SebPro2,680 posts
17 May 2021, 13:27
#92
17 May 2021, 13:27#92

LOL...that's a bit cruel but funny too.

A table full of  unsightly indigestible rugby "food" that nobody can  eat...thank goodness you are not a chef.

Organpuffer means well and tries hard and is not  a nasty person. But yes, nobody wants to sit at the table...sadly all your preparation is in vain. Quite sad, really.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2021, 13:27
#93
17 May 2021, 13:27#93
Rooi you have to love the omelette self praise for he is not going to get it from anyone on here. The most ignorant rugby follower ever, closely followed by Moz. Don’t forget Schreuder at 9 and de Wet Barry at 12. Butch better than Pollard. Mapoe our best 13!!!! It’s priceless
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2021, 13:27
#94
17 May 2021, 13:27#94
Rooi you have to love the omelette self praise for he is not going to get it from anyone on here. The most ignorant rugby follower ever, closely followed by Moz. Don’t forget Schreuder at 9 and de Wet Barry at 12. Butch better than Pollard. Mapoe our best 13!!!! It’s priceless
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 May 2021, 13:51
#95
17 May 2021, 13:51#95

Dave 

The problem is that by the time the Lions series kick in Stander would have no contract with any UK or Ireland Club - which makes it rather impossible to  select him for the Lions series.    How do you select anybody for any test side if he has NO  contract with any club at all.   

I know SA can do it - because the contracts signed provides for release of club players when needed by the Springboks - but that does not apply to the UK, Ireland and French Club Rugby,    Any player selected for international duty must have a professional contract - there is no case where any player was ever selected without a contract somewhere in the rugby hierarchy,      .       

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2021, 14:06
#96
17 May 2021, 14:06#96
It has nothing to do with contracts and everything to do with CJ retiring from test rugby at the end of the 6N From the horses mouth, not from baseless opinions of reporters etc It’s what he said
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SebPro2,680 posts
17 May 2021, 14:38
#97
17 May 2021, 14:38#97


This is what was brought to the table recently.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 May 2021, 23:10
#98
17 May 2021, 23:10#98

Stampkar said he was retiring and it was his last Irish test.....AND....Stampkar said he was available for mid year tests. 

Now Dave nominate the team he was available for....just the name is sufficient. If you like consult “clever’ Mike who seems to be mentally on the same page as you.


Just the name of the team he was going to play for....that’s all we need.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 May 2021, 00:13
#99
18 May 2021, 00:13#99

Here comes Unteromlett's moment, where he slams turbo reverse as if he is charging into battle and comes out the victor.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
18 May 2021, 00:24
#100
18 May 2021, 00:24#100




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 May 2021, 05:22
#101
18 May 2021, 05:22#101

Oink!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 May 2021, 10:51
#102
18 May 2021, 10:51#102

Mozart

Name me one test player without a  professional contract anywhere in the world and I would be happily accepting  your delirium.     Forget about Brits  being an example - he was in the team for team building processes - and not for playing purposes - but despite that he did play in games against minions .

By the way -  you  have  not produced any proof  yet that Erasmus was instrumental  in stopping test participation in 2020,    When is that coming? .   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 May 2021, 16:01
#103
18 May 2021, 16:01#103
CJ said nothing about being available for mid year tests in his post match interview. He said he was retiring from all test rugby, last I checked playing for the Lions constituted a test and he said the only rugby he would be playing was for Munter still the end of the season. Feel free to provide evidence of CJ saying he was available for the Lions series which takes place past mid year in July or evidence of Gatland giving reasons for not selecting CJ. At least Mike is on the page, you don’t even make the scrap book. A simple CJ quote saying he was available for Lions selection will suffice
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 May 2021, 19:00
#104
18 May 2021, 19:00#104

He said on his web site that he was available for mid year tests....he said he was finishing his Irish career with the 6 Nations.

So I repeat who was he going to play for in these Mid Year tests.

Just the name of the team.....thanks. Here for ease of reference is the statement:








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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 May 2021, 20:36
#105
18 May 2021, 20:36#105

Mozart

I know you find it difficult to give straight answers it any question - name me a single test player without a professional playing contract with a club?      

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 May 2021, 21:10
#106
18 May 2021, 21:10#106

Lügnerin, please, this is painful to watch. Stop being a Dummkopf. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 May 2021, 21:11
#107
18 May 2021, 21:11#107
Until the end of mid year test window would have included the 6N, which he had just completed. The window is from the begging of the year to mid year which is the period within which the 6N is played. Hope that helps. Geez you are such easy pickings. Hello, a window has a start and end date. Clearly mid year is the end of June ie 6 months. Case closed oink oink CJ was not available for the Lions series
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 May 2021, 21:31
#108
18 May 2021, 21:31#108

Listen  Kindergarten Imbecile 

It is painful to see  such bloody ignorance on your part.   Take the insurance issue.   The Club  insure players against injury in terms of their contract  with the Players.    There are  a limited number of players on national contract - but they are seconded to the clubs  - and he same condition remains.

I a player is injured in a test the national body assist the clubs or franchises with covering their part of the costs,  

The Lions is a combined team of four national teams.  They are not about to have anybody playing for the Lions who are not on contract ad whose medical .insurance are not  covered by their contract with the clubs.   

That is just one of the complications that arise from selection to play - there are others included in the contracts as well.    As from June  2021 Stander has no contract with any club   amd the Luions are not about to take out insurance for an individual player.

Comprehende - dimmist doos ever/                  


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 May 2021, 01:19
#109
19 May 2021, 01:19#109

Nope the Six Nations are not the mid year tests.....nor is the Autumn window. The mid year tests are played by NH teams in the SH. Teams like the Lions.

Stampkar was available for Lions selection. Every Newspaper and commentator affirmed that. There was no push back from Stamp or anybody else when it was reported he wasn’t selected. Gatland never set the record straight....nor did Stamp or his family and friends.


He was available and not selected....eat your crow.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 May 2021, 01:42
#110
19 May 2021, 01:42#110
Absolute rubbish. It’s bloody obvious the 6N fell within the NH test window CJ is referring to. That window ends mid year. You are speaking crap saying every article says he was not selected. I have asked you for evidence of CJ saying he was available for the Lions series or Gatland himself giving reasons for not selecting CJ. You can’t provide it as it does not exist CJ in his interview said that last test for Ireland was his last one and that the only rugby he would be playing was for Munster - that’s a fact CJ was NOT available for selection Oink oink
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 May 2021, 03:12
#111
19 May 2021, 03:12#111

The 2021 mid-year rugby union internationals (also known as the summer internationals in the Northern Hemisphere) are international rugby union matches that are mostly played in the Southern Hemisphere during the July international window.

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Series[edit]

EventResultVictorSouth Africa v Georgia test seriesAustralia v France test seriesNew Zealand v Fiji seriesArgentina v Wales test seriesSouth Africa v British & Irish Lions test series
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 May 2021, 03:16
#112
19 May 2021, 03:16#112
And CJ said:

He affirmed he will be available for the Lions tour right there....’until the end of the mid-year test window’... And we are told the  ‘mid-year rugby internationals are mostly played in the Southern Hemisphere during the July international window. 
And you can’t make one and one equal two, or rather you don’t want to because that means Stampkar was rejected. No wonder you never made it as a lawyer Dave. You allow immature emotions to rule your thought process. Better off with the pigs hey. .. oink, oink!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 May 2021, 05:52
#113
19 May 2021, 05:52#113

Mozart knows that he is talking shit about the Stander issue as well  as the issue of nor participating in the RC in 2020    He created the stories without regard to fact and when I asked him a critical question about club  and franchise contracts he went quiet  because he cannot admit that he was creating stories he has no idea about.

That happens when hatred of  Erasmus and certain players reached boiling point,   All of this as been going on for 8 years and every time he comes up with issues he has no proof of  be assured it is total BS,       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 May 2021, 05:52
#114
19 May 2021, 05:52#114

Duplication

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SebPro2,680 posts
19 May 2021, 11:57
#115
19 May 2021, 11:57#115

Why don't those who think this is important communicate with CJ himself and ask him to quell this argument (he probably would answer you) if i's such an issue here. Would have saved you a lot of wasted time.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
19 May 2021, 14:14
#116
19 May 2021, 14:14#116

Hi CJ,

Is it true that you retired because you knew you were not going to be selected for the Lions? That Warren Gatland considered you too short, and would only be considered at hookier

Gatland's Lion's loosies can all compete in the lineout, and area of strength for South Africa.
Shortmen cant jump. 


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SebPro2,680 posts
19 May 2021, 15:17
#117
19 May 2021, 15:17#117

LOL at the Pop Up troj an


C J Stander@CJStander·Mar 16All professional sports people are told “you will know when the time is right to hang up your boots”. It’s a sentiment one cannot fully comprehend until that day arrives. For me, that time has come, and I hereby publicly announce my retirement from all forms of rugby.
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sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
19 May 2021, 15:31
#118
19 May 2021, 15:31#118

This is what is left of CJ Stander. My guess is that he knew he was not going to be in the Lions squad, and took that opportunity to announce his retirement. 

It is ironic as he left the Bulls because Meyer told him he was too short to play loosie.
Now Gatland is saying the same thing, because he wants all of his loosies to be able to compete at the lineout against the Boks. 


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SebPro2,680 posts
19 May 2021, 15:38
#119
19 May 2021, 15:38#119

All forms of rugby. Finished and klaar!

It is VERY CLEAR that the ONLY exception is TO HONOUR his contract until the END of JUNE with MUNSTER.

He did not add if selected for Br/Ire Lions squad he would change his mind.

He faced the final certain..he did it his way.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 May 2021, 21:13
#120
19 May 2021, 21:13#120

Balls.....he said on his web site he was available for the Mid year tests. FFS Chabal read the string before you comment on it:


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