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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2018, 15:48
#41
21 Aug 2018, 15:48#41

BS alert - lies are being multiplied again  - but that was not the only BS spread about Louw - he was tackled and the tackler got up off the ground and was taken out by a Springbok player to try and prevent him getting at the ball - so as to attempt a turnover and was taken out by one of the Springboks off the ball.  Nice one for a penalty which normally would have been given.  So Louw's carry ended when tackled and the roll over and ruck that followed was a second carry.   

The chances were 90% that the situation would have been a penalty for the Pumas - a ref mistake that one.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2018, 15:53
#42
21 Aug 2018, 15:53#42
No need to call it on yourself Tokkie, we don't need an alert to know you are lying through your decaying yellow teeth.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2018, 15:59
#43
21 Aug 2018, 15:59#43

 BS Alert - another distortion by the lead BSter on site.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Aug 2018, 08:31
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22 Aug 2018, 08:31#44
Mike, if what you say is true regarding that move being counted as two carries, it still does not change the fact that in those two carries alone he made around 15 meters, still completely disproving the ESPN stats of a total of 12 meters. And he still had another 4-5 carries depending on whether you count the above clip as one or two carries. 
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
22 Aug 2018, 09:20
#45
22 Aug 2018, 09:20#45

The thing is, it's not two carries, Blue. A carry ends when the player carrying is either a) stopped and can't continue or b) dispossessed. Louw was never dispossessed and not stopped until the ruck formed. He was moving forward all the time. It's one carry.

This is the typical diversion Mike always employs. He accused me of misrepresenting the carry. That was the claim. I provided a video that proved him wrong. That's where an adult debate would end, with one party saying either "sorry, I was wrong" or "I still disagree, but I see your point" or even "fine, but Louw still sucks and the carry is insignificant". I can happily live with the last one, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

But now Mike has to save face. So he starts nitpicking and lying about distances. About one or two carries. About the player's movements. About hypothetical penalties. Even called it a ref error.

None of that changes the fact that Louw did carry the ball for 15m as I described. That's the beginning and the end of it. But by casting as much (fake) doubt as possible he diverts attention from the fact that he yet again accused me of lying and his accusation was yet again blown out of the water. Another example of this was the recent Fleck/Kayser incident, where he got it hopelessly wrong, but instead of admitting such he immediately starting latching onto insignificant details like the distance from the tryline the tackle took place, the ball spilling over the tryline, etc.

This is deeply dishonest behaviour by an operator skilled in the art and it drags debate on this site down into a quagmire of tediousness as we're stuck on fending off one lame accusation and bogus claim after another, nothing of which adds any value to proceedings.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Aug 2018, 09:38
#46
22 Aug 2018, 09:38#46
Pakie, that is basically the point I am making, the fact is the meters carried is wrong, therefore everything else Mike has said is just irrelevant noise. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2018, 10:40
#47
22 Aug 2018, 10:40#47

Oops, wrong thread!!!

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
22 Aug 2018, 11:29
#48
22 Aug 2018, 11:29#48

Yep, I had it like that, Blue

Wrong thread if you're looking for Trad, Draad!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2018, 12:57
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22 Aug 2018, 12:57#49

Pakie, I should probably ignore Trad, but I can't bring myself to it just yet. It's like looking at a train wreck in slowmo, not being able to look away....or a dog chasing a laser pointer. Hypnotized for the time being.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Aug 2018, 13:58
#50
22 Aug 2018, 13:58#50
Mike has used the same tactics for years.....and if the lie, the diversion, the denial don't work there are other tactics.... the appeal to some new party or the go silent for a few days and then resume the debate back at the start, acting as if all that went before never happened. When he is finally cornered he becomes the victim and incredibly there are those likeJW, HasBeen and CC who actually buy that act. Tokkie may not have an education worth mentioning but I'd give him an honorary PhD in lying......the man is a master liar.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Aug 2018, 14:13
#51
22 Aug 2018, 14:13#51
Not true Moz, a master liar is good at lying. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Aug 2018, 14:20
#52
22 Aug 2018, 14:20#52
Gosh, what does that make JW, HasBeen and CC? But I concede your point.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Aug 2018, 14:31
#53
22 Aug 2018, 14:31#53

BB

How dare you describe Mozart so accurately - only problem he gets caught out so easily.  My advice to Mozart is to go and helped out your liar assistant since he published a list of lies on site and got caught out.   Go to help him please maybe further Mozart lies will help him out.   

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