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Is the WC a farce

Started by generaltit6 REPLIES367 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2015, 20:15
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GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
24 Aug 2015, 20:15
#1
24 Aug 2015, 20:15#1
A lot of u would say yes... but you misunderstand the RWC...its only about the game itself...it promotes rugby as a game into the future....it really about the love of the game...it is NOT about proving your country is superior...ironically...the biggest powers like USA, Russia and China hardly play the game...Japan does so does those mentioned.....when most of us have pushed daisies...things will change...the RWC is all about PROMOTING the game.

Its a lovely fun competition.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,282 posts
24 Aug 2015, 21:19
#2
24 Aug 2015, 21:19#2
Very presumptuous for you to decide what the World cup is about.....
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
24 Aug 2015, 21:34
#3
24 Aug 2015, 21:34#3
 Well Sharkbok just the way I see it......just an opinion....nothing more presumptuous than your or any other body's opinion....on other opinions...you are just being irritating and contentious....grow up
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Aug 2015, 01:03
#4
25 Aug 2015, 01:03#4
 No it's not. In my opinion it's a tournament where the rules of engagement are totally different, going from soft pool games to sudden death pressure from the quarters onwards. Other than the host nation the engagements take place on foreign soil in foreign stadiums, experience in handling the occasion is of vital necessity which is why the RWC is not a farce.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2015, 14:23
#5
25 Aug 2015, 14:23#5

As long as you understand the RWC only starts with the QFs it is not a farce. What goes before is a celebration of the game, with only one significant game in almost a month of rugby. 

 

 

Rugby is a very predictable sport compared to soccer for example. As we see in the FA Cup all the time....a much lower ranked team can win a one off game in soccer. But it's very rare, even at the soccer WC, for these unheralded teams to progress beyond the pool stages.

 

 

So the QFs at the RWC are all but set....ABs, Oz, Boks, France,  Ireland, Wales or England, Samoa or Scotland, Bargies. But with a fair measure of doubt in terms of who plays who. That doubt though, is almost always interjected by a pool match between two of the teams listed above. And almost all of the remaining doubt is introduced by the Pool of Death.....ie by pool selection nonsense.

 

 

The RWC would be a better contest if it started with a 7 match round robin between the top 8 teams.....followed by a knockout semi and final. This would introduce the added challenge of winning the Cup without dropping a game to any of the Top 8 teams.

 

Much has been made of desirability of a three match final....fairer perhaps, but the huge vibe around the championship game would be lost.

 

 

Would this approa ch be that much better to trump the points Denny makes, to negate the need for rugby to reach out.....doubtful. Although if the US is the biggest prize, just making sure we can watch the game on TV would have far more effect.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
26 Aug 2015, 08:35
#6
26 Aug 2015, 08:35#6
I've called it a farce before I think. In doing so though I am referring to the importance attached to it rather than to the tournament itself.

The idea that winning a cup in a sudden death tournament, where you can coast through with only one or two tough games if the draw plays out well for you, and then be called World Champions irrespective of your performance record over the previous 4 years is what I consider farcical.

The watering down of test match results leading up to the tournament as "building for the World Cup" also irritates me, especially the liberal way in which South Africa in particular use it. It's become a convenient excuse for failure.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Aug 2015, 09:13
#7
26 Aug 2015, 09:13#7
 
As exciting as seeing the top teams clash, I for one enjoy watching the minnows go head to head.

I'm expecting to see some exciting stuff from Japan and Fiji this year.

To me that's where the heart of the competition is.

As for a farce ... we all saw how New Zealand were favoured in 2011. Practically handed the trophy.

Even so they are the best team in the world and will remain so.

Anything can happen on the day.

Sebastien seems to be a little confused. He's pipping the French for the title yet claims it will be won by one of the top 4 ranked teams.

Poor dear needs help in more ways than one it seems.



 






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