Is there another rugby forum?

Rooinek, you might have been hacked by the magician Mats, who knows, but I for one don't believe that you're anyway responsible for the altering of your post .

I know Bobbok, I remember you sticking up for me on Kamp SS. I think you were about the only person who did other than Owen and Lesley. Thanks, I do appreciate it.

@Rooinek. I have started having a look at soem of the posts., and there are quite a few to go through. I am going to quote the contents of two posts, and will probably get my arsed kicked for it, but so be it. Fact is that there is the perception that the guy is a powerdrunk idiot who chases people away for the heck of it. I do this purely to try and indicate that it is not really true, and that he is really trying to get behind what has happened here.

1. ............it would seem apparent that Rooinek could very well have been Mats, so the whole Hawkeye adding "cunt"t is a complete load of shit made up by Mats to deliberately discredit Hawkeye, fortunately Hawkeye knows who his friends are and I can only assume that Beeno had knowledge of his actions,

2. Rooinek's account has been banned until I can figure out what is going on, just to let you all know, so before any of you have a hissy fit, this is just so I can make sure that the real Rooineks account has not be compromised. Once I have sorted it out or heard back from Rooinek, it will then be made active again.

I don't know what has happened, but something funny does seem to have happened. I did post something to you on Supereupporter and ended with a question. Remember what the question was? ....And what your reply was? In addition... from the above, it does seem that Barlee might have sent something to an email address of you, and hav not had a reply. I will have a discussion with him tomorrow and I will get back to you. Unfortunately, it will have to be on here for obvious reasons. It would have been better if there was a way to discuss this away from this forum, but so be it.

PS. I personally do not think that Hawkeye has changed that post. He was too pissed off and his reaction immediately after that post is a clear indication. There is also no proof that you have alterred it either, hence the suspicion that our old friend has found a way in again. Draad can vouch for that. That is what raised a lot of suspicion. That and the way that you really have changed the way that you posted from the way that you did previously. I checked it. You ended all of your old posts, before you left for the first time, with "Regards", and everybody knew you by that.

 This thread reads like a good mystery novel.

Yes, Ceradyne, I do remember the question you asked and my answer. You asked what the word was that Hawkeye changed to "c*nt" and I told you that I honestly couldn't remember.

Yes, I now see that Von Barlee did send me a mail that I missed because it went to my Junk Mail. I have replied to him. 

Anyway, I do believe I have now answered your question and you still haven't even acknowledged mine. For the third time, how do you explain barlee putting up my real name? Do you think that is acceptable behaviour for a message board moderator? 

I know that you have answerred it. I just wanted to remind you about it. I will reply about the name as soon as I had a discussion. I will not leave it hanging in the air. I have an opinion/theory about it, but I would rather not go into another speculation. I would prefer having something to back up what I say about it. If I do not get the answer/facts then I will give you my opinion about it.

I just need to have a look at the post where the name was mentioned again.

PS. I have already sent Barlee a message as well.

Ceradyne, why do you need to have a discussion with someone before you can answer my very simple question? Do you need someone's permission? Are you worried you might get into trouble with the Gestapo?

Listen, I don't care if you e-mail Von Barlee or leave things hanging in the air or whatever the heck you do regarding Kamp SS. I don't need you or anyone else to intercede on my behalf with barlee and I don't want anything more to do with him. What he did was just plain spiteful and no-one is going to convince me otherwise.

I've replied to his mail (which admittedly I hadn't seen until now) and I hope that's the end of it. I want nothing more to do with him or his message board . . . but trust me, if someone creates a persona on this message board just to sing the praises of Kamp SS and tell everyone what a wonderful place it is to post on, I will tell them in no uncertain terms about my experiences on that board . . . and if you or Hawkeye or barlee or anyone else has a problem with that, then tough.

Hope that clears things up.

PS You don't really have to answer my question if it makes you so uncomfortable, I don't want you getting into any trouble back in the Kamp!

 Thanks Vlag. I am posting from my phone and don'thave the the time to go into detail at the moment. Thinks this need sorting out though.

Like they say in Afrikaans: "moet nou nie fokken moedswillig wees nie". I wanted to check up something first, but since you insist, I will say what I was thinking and that will be off the top of my head. From what I can remember he didn't post something like "...who is xxxxx xxxxx?". He never said Rooinek's real name is.................. That was when some questioned wether it really was you. Think about it. A lot of us suspected that something was not right. Some thought that the choice of words were out of character for you and admittedly it was. The accusation against Hawkeye was equally out of his normal behaviour. Why don't you wait for a reply as well. After all, Barlee has sent sent you an email to try and find out what has happened and you have just admitted that you have only just replied to it.

I think that all of this can be sorted out in good faith.

Ja, but then when its getting really exciting, building to a climax, Joker Mats might hop on MB & zap us all into cyberspace .

 I have resisted posting this before on any forum but the easiest way to take down a somewhat loosely moderated sight is to fill it with vile racist ,homophobic filth then just contact the sponsors and advertizers . This is what happened to ABS.com.And the filthy mongrels who did that were aided and abetted by the site not keeping on top of it which would have been too easy .

Its good the way this site is moderated so long as theres no-one with evil intent .The trolls [not just someone whos opinion is different from yours] can make all this vanish like tlhe snows of yesrteryear .

I notice on here I have used language I would never have countenanced on oher sites ,must be the loosey goosey feel of the place ,self moderation called for there.

I quite like some of the bok fans on here and find some of the ongoing reparte' quite amusing but the attacks on others families is way outta line ,you cant do that its too scummy for words .

Cheers ! 

Reading some of these comments, you South Africans may need to spend some time learning manners. You would think you have enough hate in your country not to want to go and pass it on to people from around the world.

What a shameful sad bunch some of you are.

Moz, I think now its only about clearing Rooinek's name unless there's evidence to the contrary . He deserves that .

Going to drop my 2 cents here...

I'm a total dolt when it comes to forums, but this one somehow managed to catch my attention. It just felt special, more like a comments page, if you catch my drift. While I understand and normally abide by "etiquette rules", I see the fun of some friendly banter, as long as it does not turn into a vicious virtual slugfest. It's very easy to be tough behind a computer. 

Having said that, if I find myself unable to "deal" with the tone things are discussed here, then I'd simply walk away. I do not expect to agree with everyone here, nor do I expect to find every single post filled with useful content. This is not a University, is it?

NZ posters will obviously be met with "special treatament" around here... it's up to them to either take it with a pinch of salt, or leave...

There are some nice guys around here. I enjoy reading Mozart, Clevermike, Beeno, Sasuke, among others. Each one of them has a different perspective, a different approach to the game, which I find useful and entertaining.

Glad to be around! (Need to back that up with some more posts, though :P )

@ olecruz thanks for the posting and once again very humbling. There are some who feel the need to 'win the internet' and it makes it unplesant reading and joining in in the discussion. I have noticed that the reads compared to the postings are genrally 20%. This probably means that 50% (30% could not be bothered) of most readers are just too intimidated to post as some of the imbiciles here find it their duty to insult others.

@cloudzter,

the moderators or more like webmasters on abs.com are retarded, i have a funny feeling that if they do bring it back which IMO they wont, im just going to on there and abuse the crap out of them, and ill end up getting banned in the first week LMAO, :oP
i dont want to really ruin it for anyone though.

and i did make heaps of good mates there, u, rose, warhammer, hakwa, taps, lucky luke, basquefan, blacksayian, abshades, jdawg, crusy#1, cressy, highlackler, hide, and heaps of others, so it was quite a great place for us to gush over the worlds greatest team, lolz.

but i think i am destined to remain in sarugby.com, heaps of meke dudes here and i love the banter and stirring (made a lot easier thanks to NZ rugby), and ive always loved the rugger chats which is why i go on rugby forumns in the frst place, but there are also so many misconceptions and lies about the All Blacks and NZ rugby and i cant help but set the record straight, :o)
wouldnt want some poor innocent to read something and then assume it to be the truth, especially when the colour green from the green eyed monster is the same shade of green as the Bok jersey, lmao, :oD

Suzuki. If you did not notice this website is called SA Rugby. Go and 'win the internet' at NZ Rugby but your filth is not accepted at home so you have to come here. You really are very narrow minded and insecure. Get a job firstly, it would help.

 Ruuganut that is a disgusting post. Hands off my pal saSUE. No one from nz is filth. Rugby folk here love having the nz guys around. yes we love a bit of banter and dust up and all the passion but you are way out of line with this comment!!!

All Black fans,

I have spoken to the guys at supersupporter.net it is not .co.za that redirects as the post above suggests and they are willing to set up an All Blacks section dedicated to All Blacks rugby

 This all hilarious stuff. Now we have vlagman posing as the guy so willing to sort out an issue provided it doesnt discredit ss board or get him into hot water. Man he is a man of principle after all - what has changed then. Its just a geat pity you didnt stand up for the truth before windpomp - you could have pulled up the posts to help sort out accusations about me that were untruthful.

Are you still of the opinion that it was okay for hawker to disclose my private details including place of work and boss?

Sorry but your chickens are coming home to roost.

I think we have some moles here causing trouble.

Cloudy it has always been my pleasure - has been geat having you around.

Getting nervous Beeno?

Let them judge for themselves. Cloudy would be very welcome. We love those who shoot from the...um...hip.

http://www.supersupporter.net/all-blacks-rugby/

 So margaret is another mole. 

Dorkie its a free world but as you well know when you build on quickssand it all disappears.

Otherwise how are you doing? Trust you are well and enjoying life in Scotland?

 Hey Margie my dear you wouldnt happen to be ou windpomp would you. Bwahahahahahhaha

Didnt know you had a gender issue!

This is hilarious. 

Sorry I have to go but i have a business meeting to attend. 

Beeno: so now you have to behave yourself when you talk to us Kiwis (fans of the greatest rugby team on the world); so no more talk about the ref and no more talk about that first try, lol Yeah right!

I doubt any of us are going anywhere!

@Beeno. This is about an issue that Rooinek had, and it concerns him and him alone. This is unfortunately the only way that I can communicate with him, because we do not have a PM facility on this board. I did not want to be dragged into this but did it because Draad sort of "requested" it. So, I will not respond to any further remarks from your side, on this thread and this particular topic.

@Rooinek. I have not yet been able to look  the particular post again, and I will this is an opinion of what happened and why it happened. Once again, back in the very early days, Barlee was not on the old Supersport forum for long and he did not know all the "characters" who had been around for ages and who have been in contact through various other forums. I am talking about the likes of yourself, Moz, Denny, Duke, Beeno, Dave, etc. He certainly did not know the full history behind it either. There were a few guys who are more familiar and a number of them came up and said that the posts, where the swearwords appeared in, was uncharacteristic of yourself, and that was where the shit hit the fan. To top it all, Barlee also received an emial from an email address that differed from the one that was one the system, and all of that raised the suspicion that there was something fishy going on. He then asked the question that I mentioned earlier, and as I said, he never said that it was you. He just asked who is XXX XXXX. That was it, IIRC.

I am not at all in favour of knowing and publishing people's real names and pictures. I do not like it and would not like my personal information being published all over. Other don't care. I know the real names of a few people on here and on Supersupporter but I do not go throw then arround, except those who do not have a problem with it. A lot of people, for instance, know exactly who Duke is and what his real name is, and the same goes for Dave. I have long ago seen a picture of Mozart, that was alterred, that you yourself, if I am not mistaken, posted on Supersupporter. Moz can help me out here if it was you or not. Guess who was the person who removed it, the moment he saw it? Noneother than the "evil" Hawkeye. If it wasn't you who posted that picture then I apologise here and now. If it was you, then it could well be a matter of log............... splinter............ eye ..............

Wow … !!!   Not a site I’d ever consider.

More like a crèche if you ask me..

My avatar pic was tampered with on Monday by someone on this site. I wonder if the moderator of this site could check and possible trace this low life and expose him??

I have my suspicions … but will keep it to myself … till it’s confirmed.  

It sure would be interesting to see if I’m right.

Any suggestions??

Ceradyne, I get the impression you're going to some trouble here on my behalf and I do appreciate it because I believe youre doing this for the right reasons, but seriously, don't bother. The only tiny bit of interest I have left in the Kamp SS forum is I'd like to know if Hawkeye ever returns and if he admits to editing my post. That's it. 

I'm afraid I don't remember you or Barlee from the old SuperSport board. What names did you use on there?

Yes, I did once photoshop a pic of Moffie and I posted it . . . can't remember if it was on SuperSport or Super Supporter to be honest . . . and no, that wasn't my finest moment, but I did it to try and prove a point, I did disguise it and I didn't include a name. Still, I don't deny it was a shitty thing to do and I regretted it. Back then I don't think we had the ability to edit stuff and I had to wait for the mod to remove it. If that mod was in fact Hawkeye then I'll take your word for it.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, nobody has to make a case for me to be unbanned from Kamp SS so don't waste your time. Thanks anyway.  

 Ceradyne, dont bother big guy. They are just 1 in a long line of sites/people that think Rooipoes is a prick. You cant fight the world by yourself.

Only site he would never get banned from is "old fucks with issues!"

 Clean Cut ,I promise not to call you the contraction of your moniker [ clunt ] Instead maybe a 4 letter word ending in .UNT pertaining to something essentialy feminine ...........how about AUNT ? ?

Ah well. I tried. I do appreciate your honesty and having the balls to admit that it was not your finest moment. It was not about making a case for you. It was more an effort to clear the air. My name on Supersport was vlagman, as it is still on Supersupporter as well. Barlee was always Barlee but, as I said, he was not on Supersport that long when it was shut down. He has a webdesigning company in Wales and when it became clear that Superport was going to pull the plug on their forum, he used his resources to start the Supersupporter website and unlike what some people like to believe, he does not make any money off it.

In fact, it is costing him. He has had a few donations and everytime that he does get something he mentions it, unless the person asks him not to. He did receive something aagin recently and het mentioned it and thanked the person, who also wished to remain anonymous. Apart from that, he pays for the license, hosting, etc and he does not ask a cent from any of the members.

Rooinek @ 10.49             " The only tiny bit of interest I have left in the Kamp SS forum is I'd like to know if Hawkeye ever returns and if he admits to editing my post. That's it. "

Rooinek, Hawkeye aka Adminhawk aka Falke Auge, has returned & has been posting today .

@ceradyne,

thats pretty cool of barlee to do that, but how do u have so much first hand info about this barlee chap and his role in SS??? what i mean is, ur not syaing he did all that cos someone told u he did???
 

My Xrissie wishes were deleted on that site and when I complained to Barlee he re-instated them.

I believe that just about sums up that despicable site.

 I recall a time when one typed SA Rugby it morphed into supershit house board. Obviously a computer programmed thing.

Rooitiwt dont feel to aggrieved they even deleted a post of mine entirely where I told them if theu would not allow me to defend myself there I would do so on Keo. I asked them to bring this post up but they wouldnt. 

I ahve to warn you  - if you are in the right and I beleive you are they will not allow the truth to be established. I have challenged them on a number of points where the evidence is in their archives and all to nil effect.

Any hope of a fair deal simply is being totally unrealistic.

Draad you and Bobbok posted here I didnt do anything worthy of banning. However a choice was made simply because wee bedpan went off in a hissy fit. Barlee said quite clealry he choose bedpan. It was not a decision based on principle at all. It his private little rugby website and he chooses whomsover he will. That is not acceptable and continues to damage ss board.

Lets have no more excuses for these guys. They have had a number up years now to grow up, be ethical  but appear to have learnt zip. Theys till think they are correct but the departure of so many folk should be shouting at them  - youare stuffing up! Take Moz -how do you treat a guy like that in the way they did?  Amazing really.

So now the unbanning of all the banned has gone down the tubes and Barlee is left rather red faced and shown to be partial and unprincipled. Its hard to come to any other conclusion.

No I am not hard on folk who come here from there. I am hard on lies by windpomp when he indulges in them and on moles from ss board who attack posters here incognito and are only intent on undermining. How cowardly do you get?

sasuke uchiha

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September 18, 2013, 11:56:21

@ceradyne,

thats pretty cool of barlee to do that, but how do u have so much first hand info about this barlee chap and his role in SS??? what i mean is, ur not syaing he did all that cos someone told u he did???

Nope. I know it first hand, because I was on the Supersport board and can clearly remember how it all transpired that there is a Supersupporter site. In fact, we deliberated over the name, etc on Supersport before the site shut down. Therw were obviously some teething problems in the beginning, because Barlee mentioned the possibilty one day and I don't think it was more than two or three days before he bought the license and got the site up and running. Stuff like moderation, and the day to day management of it never even came into the discussion, and the initial idea was that there wasn't going to be any moderation at all, but some folk just couldn't resist the temptation and it was at a time when we had people like Jake White and even Dan Retief, at one stage, involved. I say we, because there were at some stage four moderators, which was an overkill in any case. I was one of them stooges who was a moderator.

Just to give you an idea how things can get out of hand. The moderation was never a question, like I said. In fact, one of the first things that Barlee did (the post is still on the board) was to make sure that the filters, that filter out swear-words, were switched off. Unfortunately people got into each others' character, families, etc,and we all agreed that there should be moderation. Not Barlee or Hawkeye. It was discussed and decided. We wereThen the moderation was started. The moment that the incident was dealt with, some people were immediately up in arms, and the moderators got branded the Gestapo. Barlee then, once again to accommodate everybody, asked for suggestions and then the next thing that was introduced was a "jury", also on demand of the members. Everybody was happy with that becasue it meant that before anybody could be sanctioned, the jury had to decide, and the jury was everybody who had in excess of a certain number of posts. That was also soon not good enough and at one stage a few guys pissed off with a loud bang. The "official" reason? A thread that had nothing but nothing to do with rugby, was moved to tge general section, and that started all the revolt.

That is the reason why I know all about it and why I know how all of this came about. Apart from that, I have had numerous discussions with him, on the forum and in private, and I think I have a fairly good idea how he thinks and how he opperates. In fact, most of us who have been on that forum from teh start knows each other well. That is why some could pick up on Rooinek's change of the way he posted.

I am not here to defend, and I am not trying, to defend Barlee. He has always had the interest of that board in mind, and he surely has made some mistakes but he has never done it to screw somebody just for the sake of doing so. If there is reason to move or moderate a post or suspend somebody it is always done with ample warning. I have no interest in knocking this board, but on here posts and threads gets deleted without any notice or warning. I know for a fact of at least two accounts that have been suspended without any warning or anything.

I will not be surprised if I have now opened a whole new can of worms, and I hope that it does not spark something again. It is of no interest to anybody. I will also not get drawn into another he said she said mud slinging and I am definitely not going to discuss any banning of this that and the other on Supersupporter. The board is open for anybody who still have a grievance to go register there and tackle it on there where it belongs. The only suspensions that are still in place is that of Beeno, for obvious reasons, and Rooinek's account because they are still busy trying to figure out wheat happened with taht post and how it happened.