Is this another Pollard moment....

Given we are covered at 15 with Willlie and Lambie as a more defensive "Halfpenny like" option, we should be trying Kriel at 13 to see how he responds.  The rest of your reasoning is also very sensible Matey...the Beast and Hendricks are likely to play.

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Nope you had Step and Allende as your centres. As for "future" Boks, he was behind many others in your books including Fat Esterhosen.

Listen to moz, the real spotter of young talent.  

Wrong.....I said Kriel would be a Bok one day the minute I saw him playing for the Baby Boks in 2013......it was not a passing comment, it was a passionate assertion much like I did with Etzebeth, PSDT, Serfontein, Thomas du Toit, Jacques du Plessis, Kitshoff and Pollard at U20 level

FACT.....I made the call on these players before you even knew who they were.

Much like I am making the same call on RG Snyman, Hanro Liebenberg and Jason Jenkins of the current Baby Bok side.......watch this space, when I remind you of this very fact.   

You said scores of youngsters should be a Bok....right up to the first test this year, you never said he should be a Bok now. You were still pumping Allende and Step. Once again, when real talent is on show, I'm ahead of you just as I was with Pollard.

Dave the creator of vast Bok squads....moz the cynic who manages to find the very few real talents.

Spot the difference.

Bullshit I had Kriel on the wing given he was playing 15 for the Bulls at the time and de Allende and Serf were my choices at centre .....I might name plenty of classy young players in an extended squad but I always narrow that down to my match 23.....just because I rate a host of talented players it does not mean they will all make my Bok side.

What I am saying is that every one of those players I name are test material, but only 23 can be selected at a time. 

No I had Vorster on the bench....another class act.

My side was all about making sure I had all our best players in the starting 15. Kriel is classy enough to play 15, 13 or wing.....so in order to fulfil my desire to have the best 15 on the field......Serf and de Allende were my choices at centre with Kriel and Senatla on the wings and Willie at 15. Vorster being the next best centre was there to cover on my bench.

Great backline that.....beats the crap out of the rubbish you and Meyer keep dishing up with the likes of Kirchner at 15, Mvovo and Hendricks on the wing, Jean at centre and Pienaar at 9. To top it off had Morne been available he would have played on Saturday.......that is how utterly useless Meyer is

You could have had Kriel at centre,  and then played JP on the wing a standard choice of yours throughout the year. For some reason that slips the bounds of mortal comprehension you seem to think JP offers more than Habana. Instead you picked Voster and put Kriel on the wing.

Still my only point was you have had Voster as a starter while Kriel was on the wing....point proven, game over. As they say.

Point is I don't rate these other chaps beyond the S15...the likes of Step, Vorster and Sithole....I do rate Kriel. I don't rate Goosen, Jantjies, Marnitz and Lambie....I do rate Pollard.

If I'm wrong it's far more likely that something happens to derail the international careers of Pollard and Kriel, than any of the other chappies turn into an international success. Most of these young chaps fail at international level, the more so if they are selected too soon. It's an indisputable fact.

Most options on the Chicago Board of Trade end up out of the money....most young international aspirants fail. Beware!

No Moz, I gave up on JP and Habana a good few months ago......both offer very little these days, they are done. Vorster is better than JP and Habana, so my selection stands for that particular time.

Given Kriels performances against Oz and NZ, it would be very difficult justifying moving him away from there......which makes Mayers selection of Jean that more ridiculous last week.

You have proven nothing of a sort.....the only reason I had Vorster at 13 and not Kriel, was to accommodate both players in the starting side. Vorster is not a wing

Hope that helps.....its pretty simple really  

Nope I did not say I had him on the sub bench, I said he was in my side as Serf was injured. Had Serf been fit, Vorster would have been on the bench - that's the simple bit you keep missing.

Ill clear it even more for you.......I rate Kriel ahead of Vorster as a 13......surely that helps you??  

Yep in April my centre pairing was de Allende and Serfontien and with Serf over his injury he would again be back at 12.

Serfontien is a better 12 than Kriel, for the simple reason Kriel does not play 12. Kriel is a better 13 than Serfontien.

The issue at hand is whether Kriel is better than Vorster as a 13 and that has been settled. Who to play at 12 and 13 with de Allende, Kriel and Serfontien fit is a dilemma......a good dilemma.

You are 100% correct, I refer Kriel as a 13 but given he is the most variable of the 3 mentioned above, chances are he might be the one to shift to wing.....but I am not convinced of that given how bloody good he is at 13.

As for JP, I have always been a big fan but it would appear age has caught up to him much like it has Habana. Its been some time since either has made an impression.