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Israel Folau - Crowd Funding

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 10:10
#121
24 Jun 2019, 10:10#121

There is no man made law that will stop Christians and indeed others speaking about what they believe in. 

We will see what the contracts say. If there is something it shows the Oz Rugby union has appointed itself the judge of what is right and wrong, who can play rugby and who cant and this under the banner of inclusiveness. You can't make up this BS. 

Indeed so arrogant are the freak goth and her cabal they think they are above God Himself. Are they in for a massive shock.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 Jun 2019, 10:24
#122
24 Jun 2019, 10:24#122

It is unlawful, and also against the labour union to make or force any employee to take a polygraph test

This is the same law in most countries

However, in certain job positions, especially within South Africa, the contract and job description can very clearly stipulate that you are required to participate and pass a polygraph test every 6 months, and this is usually within the security field, but more specifically, the cash in transit business and armed response companies.

I am mentioning this because whilst some things are definitely against the labour law, it does not preclude having specific clauses in certain contracts, that once signed, binds that individual to those terms. 

So yes, if Folau had those clauses in his contract, which I believe he did, purely due to his previous behavior, then he should feel the full brunt of his actions and accept all repercussions that come his way because of  those actions.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
24 Jun 2019, 10:29
#123
24 Jun 2019, 10:29#123
Well my opinion is gods a c$%t if he exists and according to you I am free to say that loudly and often and I am also free to say all believers are morons, oh wait I remember a certain believer on here trying to shut down those of us who questioned his beliefs as it hurt his feelings. It appears freedom of speech only applies to some and certainly not to Atheists.
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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
24 Jun 2019, 10:53
#124
24 Jun 2019, 10:53#124

The World Cup of sodomites vs non-sodomites with the atheist pavilion shouting for the sodomites not because they love sodomy but because they hate God.

Don't bring up your verbal contract with the dictionary about atheism,that you don't believe in God.Your hatred for God is spewed out over all the airways of the net.  


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:08
#125
24 Jun 2019, 11:08#125

Ummm . . . why would an atheist hate something that he doesn't believe exists?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:10
#126
24 Jun 2019, 11:10#126

Perfectly summarized Moonrover!

DA, it depends on the actual detail of the specific clauses and if it were added after the initial starting date of the contract.

When will it start being offensive for players publicly praying before or after matches?...or thanking Jesus in a post match interview?

This PC BSis taking things too far. Before we know it, we will be living under conditions similar to China or North Korea.

Sader, I don't agree with your stance, but I agree with your right to voice it 100% As long as someone is not encouraging or enticing others to harm others, they should be given the right to say what they want. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:13
#127
24 Jun 2019, 11:13#127
Posted by: Rooinek (8564 posts)

Jun 24, 2019, 11:08

Ummm . . . why would an atheist hate something that he doesn't believe exists?


You should ask that to yourself...and question where the hate itself comes from...it's not rational....no matter how you try and spin it.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:28
#128
24 Jun 2019, 11:28#128
Moonrover, my question was to you and it still stands . . . why would an atheist hate something that he doesn't believe exists?
I don't believe in the tooth fairy . . . but that doesn't mean I hate the tooth fairy.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:33
#129
24 Jun 2019, 11:33#129

Bwhahahahaha ou rooitwit brings the house down with his amzi g stupidity. 

Rooijackass you have shown your rage and anger towards God countless times. You attack God again and again. You even say Jesus is gay!

Best shout your foul trap you absurd perv. 

Man can ou rooitwit really be so dumb. 

Well said Moonrover! 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:34
#130
24 Jun 2019, 11:34#130
Moorover, tell me, does not believing in something automatically mean you hate it? Actually, the very fact that someone identifies as an atheist automatically makes it impossible for that person to hate God. You cannot hate something that you don't even believe is there. They may dislike Christians, or even hate them, but that is not the same thing. There is no hard tangible evidence that God exists. The almighty has given humanity heavily contradictory religions making it impossible to know which is the correct one. You cannot touch God with your hands, you cannot see him with your eyes, you cannot hear him with your ears. And don't get philosophical, those statements are all true. There is good reason to doubt God and his existence. No, I am not an atheist, but I have very serious doubts about the existence of theistic God. Therefore I understand why some people don't believe at all. 
Nobody has answered my question. Would all the Christians here be so defensive of the freedom of religion position, if an influential Muslim had spewed hatred about Christians and eternal damnation? Funny thing is, the Christians have a lot more in common with Muslims than atheists do.    
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:37
#131
24 Jun 2019, 11:37#131

 No you silly nutjob you believe a universe created itself from nothing and that DNA just evolved. How utterly dumb is that rooibozo. 

Go to Beeno Trumpet and watch the clip about who did the encoding of the DNA and wise up chump. 

Beeno as always lending a helping hand to the poor ignorant and lost rooitwit! 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:47
#132
24 Jun 2019, 11:47#132

Nope the atheists are allies of Islam as bloggers are noting everywhere. 

Christians support Trump and atheists and Muslims by and large support atheistic child murdering demonrats. 

Many have remarked how weird it is atheists supporting Islam. These two groups are of the same spirit though. The question however points to how absurd the atheists are. The turkey voting for Christmas. Ditto these weird femnazis they also support Islam as do much of the LGBT community. People are amazed at their profound stupidity. Satan of course has blinded their eyes. 

Folau DID NOT SPEW HATRED BLUEBOK. JUST BECAUSE YOU FOOLISHLY DON'T BELIEVE IN HELL DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST. BECAUSE HELL DOES EXIST FOLAU'S WARNING WAS TOTALLY NECESSARY!

JESUS, GOD THE SON, spoke many times about Hell. He died to save us from Hell. 

No more BS about Folau please bluebokkie. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:53
#133
24 Jun 2019, 11:53#133

Folau is not calling for any harm to come to gays. He is calling for gays to repent and be saved from going to hell!!!

Muslims like Sunni bill Williams, who gets a free pass, says gays are worse than animals. 

Muslims execute gays and throw them off buildings. 

Can you spot the difference bluebokkie?

Man that you have to explain all this is astonishing. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 11:57
#134
24 Jun 2019, 11:57#134

Neither does the Bible have 164 jihad verses against non believers. Go and do some research Bluebok on how the Quoran teaches in respect of how infidels are to be treated. Then go and read the New Testament a d report back. Christianity and Islam are vastly different. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:03
#135
24 Jun 2019, 12:03#135

Hey rooitwit did you see your now deceased atheist buddy Christopher Hitchkins raging against God. 

Many people have in fact wondered why atheists rage against the God they say doesn't exist. 

Indeed atheists like Raylene ban Folau for speaking about a hell they also say doesn't exist. 

Face facts atheists make up a very small fringe minority and are just plain dumb. Making fools of themselves everyday with their absurd take on matters. 

Folau banned for warning about a hell they insist doesn't exist. Bwhahahahaha what a bunch of clowns!!!! Mental retards

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:21
#136
24 Jun 2019, 12:21#136

Hate is an emotion. A very strong emotion and it usually shows itself when specific conditions are met.  

A person who doesn't believe in something won't express himself in a hateful manner. He will simply dismiss it as nonsense and move on.

For example ... I do not believe that kissing a frog would result in it turning into a prince or princess, and so will not waste my time debating it. I certainly won’t become heated and argue endlessly about it.       

An atheist believes in something and saying he doesn’t is a lie. He believes that God doesn't exist and he’s prepared to defend his belief with all his might. It usually ends up becoming heated, which I would say meets all the requirements for hate to show its face. Hate of his debating opponent and hate of the subject matter ... in this case Jesus or God.

Atheists are God haters ... haters of Jesus Christ ... of that there’s no doubt ... and funny enough, the Christian takes the brunt of their attacks. Not Muslims or Mormons or Buddhists ... it’s always the Christians under fire.

Makes one wonder. Are we onto something?

Muslims have been saying things about our faith forever. It means nothing to me and I certainly won’t cause a ruckus because of some foolishness I don’t agree with.

BlueBok ... so ... as far as I can tell .. you don’t believe in God cause you can’t touch him or see him ... or hear his voice, right? And that’s good enough reason for you to reject Him?

Really? Surely there's more to it than that?

Wow!!! I didn’t realize you were so shallow.



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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:36
#137
24 Jun 2019, 12:36#137

Can someone at least answer the question posed by Piss Mint and blue

How can you even possibly hate something, if you don't even believe that the thing that you are supposed to hate, even exists?

"You should ask that to yourself...and question where the hate itself comes from...it's not rational....no matter how you try and spin it."

Why should I have to question something that I firstly.... don't believe in...… and secondly...…. I don't hate?

Maybe you should actually question why you believe that someone has to automatically hate something that they don't even believe exists...….?

I also don't believe in the tooth fairy, but I certainly made my kids believe it was there when their teeth were falling out...…. but now that they are older and also don't believe in the tooth fairy, they automatically hate it and won't use it with their kids?

Same as the easter bunny...….. I must hate that as well, because I definitely don't believe in that either, even if I made my kids hunt for all those eggs every easter?

Do you even realize how you are portraying yourself here?

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:36
#138
24 Jun 2019, 12:36#138
Muslims, Christians and Jahova's are all cut from the same Abrahamic cloth.  It is the same religion with some extra edits over the years to each respective text to make them have unique parts.
 The changes to the Bible in more recent years have removed the most backward parts, but some remains.The Koran unfortunately still remains totally backward.
The only difference is that much of the far right of Christianity no longer exists- fortunately. 

The Jews believed they were Gods chosen people. Europe/ Western world then modified the Jewish religion to suit their own ends, merging it with some ancient Pagan texts.
Then a few centuries later the Muslims stole the Christian religion and modified it to their own ends.All monolithic Gods sell the afterlife of the one true God. They all claim all religions and non-religions are the Devil.
In 500 year from now, if the World continues to evolve - religion will be gone. It will be seen as a text for primitives by all, and not just some.
While religion is practised by many, there is no doubt that most of the followers are below the average IQ- as with Folau . 
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:40
#139
24 Jun 2019, 12:40#139

"Atheists are God haters ... haters of Jesus Christ ... of that there’s no doubt"

This is the biggest load of shit I have seen, in quite some time 

I wonder how many other people on here stand by this statement

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:40
#140
24 Jun 2019, 12:40#140

CC, Blue does not reject God, he strongly doubt the existence of  God as described in the Bible a d the gods of other religions...he is an agnostic... which is rational to some extent.  I hope God reveals himself to him...there is no other way. No person can convince someone of God's existence...only the Spirit...as for hell and who gets to be condemned there and for how long? I don't think about it...afterlife in Heaven would be nice, but that's not why I'm a Christian neither for the fear of hell...I believe in "The Way" as the only way to cope with an increasingly chaotic world...in the end, it's the only thing that makes sense of the bizarre place we find ourselves...once you realise it, it's as obvious as the sun rising every day. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:42
#141
24 Jun 2019, 12:42#141

Expecting a plaintive squeal any moment from the perv supporters asking for thi s thread to be moved to Beeno's esteemed trumpet. Boy are they getting their sorry butts kicked.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:51
#142
24 Jun 2019, 12:51#142
The bits of the thread that are concerned with Folau, his banning and his efforts to raise money to fight his legal battles are rugby related and belong in this section.
The rest of the comments arguing about christianity, atheism and hell have no place on this thread and should continue here (atheists who hate something they don't believe in) or here (the world's worst christian) .
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:55
#143
24 Jun 2019, 12:55#143
Unfortunately, the Spirit does not exist, so it will not be convincing anyone of anything.
Most convincing is done in the Church through various brainwashing techniques combined with self-delusion....  
A case study like Beeno is so twisted he has lost any touch with reality. He interprets the Bible to suit his own backward agenda, and like Folau believes he is a prophet spreading the word of God.
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.... Are they not all one in the same. Pull the other one... 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:02
#144
24 Jun 2019, 13:02#144

So here is where we are:

The very foolish atheists of Oz rugby are saying, along with their very foolish supporters.

in the name of inclusiveness Folau must be banned from rugby.

that they are the ones to decide what is right and what can be spoken about!!

That quoting the bible must not be allowed (or indeed uttering anything they disagree with no doubt)

That sunn bill williams gets a pass but they are all standing on some sort of principle. When do muslims get fired for their attitude to gays etc - anywhere.

Then we have the fact that these weirdoes do not believe in God

These atheists also do not believe Hell.

But Folau must be banned from rugby for things they insist don't exist!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody not agreeing with their PC BS must be fired. They hope this will shut people up who disagree with them. Note this not only happening in OZ oaks

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. you can definitely tell you cant win the argument - those fascists are clueless so they label anything form ANY source that is not PC in their darkened eyes hate speech. Look how they fooled poor Bluebokkie - hope he is getting a glimmer.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:04
#145
24 Jun 2019, 13:04#145

Shark, you will first need a doctors in mathematics, physics or statistics to understand that the probability of there not being some sort of god simply outweighs the opposing stance by more than too much to be ignored. Atheism is irrational...agnosticism should be the scientific stance....go google it.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:09
#146
24 Jun 2019, 13:09#146

Shar ktwit what does a mampara like you know about the Bible! Christ was crucified on Christmas day. Man you cant get more ignorant than poor Sharktwit!!!!!!!!!!!!

ou Sharktwvt has been in a complete spasm about things he insists don't exist. Hahahahahahahahahahaha man you really have to laugh at the rank stupidity. Rooitwvt has been raging against God for decades and asks why should atheists like him hate a God who doesn't exist - incredible stuff from these loons!

Hope you enjoy my summary of just how very foolish you nutjobs have been about Folau etc.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:11
#147
24 Jun 2019, 13:11#147

Unfortunately, the Spirit does not exist, so it will not be convincing anyone of anything.

Of that you can't be sure.....no-one can prove or disprove its existence. I believe its something personal and is based on perception. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:28
#148
24 Jun 2019, 13:28#148

Draad ... I have always believed in Him, even as a child. It's not something that I decided in one day. He's always been around. How anyone could have missed Him is totally beyond me ... especially as a child. He was simply around all the time.

He’s a reader of hearts. Every thought you have is like a trumpet call before Him. He doesn’t have to strain his hearing to know your thoughts ... to know your heart ... and if you simply take a bit of alone time, to still yourself before Him, you’ll discover that He’s a chatterbox.

He’s a Father ... and that’s what He wants you to call Him.

  


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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:29
#149
24 Jun 2019, 13:29#149

Most people with doctrines in fields like physics and maths are atheists.

However, even if a "God" exists, I doubt it is an Abrahamic one.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:30
#150
24 Jun 2019, 13:30#150

Correct Denny, perception and experience...enlightenment. A few other things too...but there are many fakes as well...and although I partake, it's nonsensical to argue about these things...live and let live should be our moto, but nooooo, we want to force others to think like we do or ridicule those that see things differently...how is that different than Apartheid in sheep's clothes? Justified prejudice? Horse shyte I say. Humanity are a bunch of idiots, it's a miracle we haven't destroyed ourselves centuries ago.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:33
#151
24 Jun 2019, 13:33#151

Draad science has proved beyond any doubt God exists. Probability theory has wiped out these very foolish atheists. Agnostics are mostly just lazy people who actually prefer not to know. Like atheists they prefer the darkness to the light. All the evidence is there and its overwhelming.

Ou sharktwi t is thicker than even his avatar!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:35
#152
24 Jun 2019, 13:35#152

Wow CC, my experience exactly. I'm mostly reluctant to listen, because I'm afraid I won't like the message. 

But you are correct, if you choose to listen and look, it's clear as daylight...denying it is self delusion...but unfortunately not everyone are given the compulsion to look, and they never look.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:40
#153
24 Jun 2019, 13:40#153
It is amazing that the people with the least morals (E.g. Beeno, CleanCutt, Draad), are who seem so convinced in their Abrahamic God. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:42
#154
24 Jun 2019, 13:42#154

Beenz, probability is not proof, but strong evidence...Satan has done a good job at fooling humanity on many fronts...it's not about being lazy, it's about poor examples set by so called Christian's.  If actual Christians could live more like Jesus, more people might be interested...Bible bashing never works.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:45
#155
24 Jun 2019, 13:45#155

Sharks, what do you know about my morals? Particulars please.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:45
#156
24 Jun 2019, 13:45#156

Draad doesn't seem to me that these loons on the globalist left want to live and let live at all. They are building a tyranny. Free speech vs being struck down everywhere, they are violent eg Antifa and they go for anybody who disagrees with them.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:46
#157
24 Jun 2019, 13:46#157
Decided to delete my comment. On review it was a bit more personal than I am comfortable sharing with strangers.    
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:57
#158
24 Jun 2019, 13:57#158
What if there is actually a twist in the Story. 
God is actually Satan, and the Devil is actually God? God murders Billions in the Bible, while the devil only murders around 2 people...

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:58
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24 Jun 2019, 13:58#159


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 Jun 2019, 14:18
#160
24 Jun 2019, 14:18#160

"You should ask that to yourself...and question where the hate itself comes from...it's not rational....no matter how you try and spin it."

Why do you make this statement Db?

How can you possibly know who has hate for what or who in their individual hearts and minds ...…. how can you know this to such a certainty, that you are asking those same people to question where the hate itself comes from?.

Do you not even see how utterly stupid, ignorant and naive you look and sound here?

You now seem to have your God's powers, because you can now determine who hates what...…. just by what they say and believe or don't believe in...…

Pathetic statement from you


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