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Israel Folau says Aussie fires linked to same sex marriage and abortion legislation!!

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
19 Nov 2019, 04:06
#41
19 Nov 2019, 04:06#41

The biggest joke is when people try explain creation without God.The fine tuning required to have mankind living on earth is too mind boggling than to rely on the god of "chance"

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Nov 2019, 06:10
#42
19 Nov 2019, 06:10#42

"Albert Einstein's religious views have been widely studied and often misunderstood.[1] Einstein stated that he believed in the pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza.[2] He did not believe in a personal God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings, a view which he described as naïve.[3] He clarified however that, "I am not an atheist",[4] preferring to call himself an agnostic,[5] or a "religious nonbeliever."[3] Einstein also stated he did not believe in life after death, adding "one life is enough for me."[6] He was closely involved in his lifetime with several humanist groups.[7][8]"

From Wiki.

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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
19 Nov 2019, 06:23
#43
19 Nov 2019, 06:23#43

@Draad, so your first comment was metaphorical BS that you made yourself?

Do you know what or rather who Baruch Spinoza is? 

He was a person with a viewpoint that there may be nature, not a God.  So when people refer to Spinoza's God, it is not a religion. 

They are referring to his world view of life. Also dubbed as the atheist's religion...

So it is like saying my view of the universe or nature is Sharkboks religion... 




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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
19 Nov 2019, 07:25
#44
19 Nov 2019, 07:25#44

It makes absolutely no difference to me what Einstein said or believed

He is not the be all and end all of human thought, opinion or fact

Those are his theories...….. nothing more, nothin g less

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Nov 2019, 07:47
#45
19 Nov 2019, 07:47#45

Tell me, Stupid ... does your friendship with those homos come with "benefits"?

Is that why you "love" them so much?

Are you a poo dipper or will any hole suffice?



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 08:12
#46
19 Nov 2019, 08:12#46

Saffex you sick perv  only God could have created the universe out of nothing. What a thick plank you are. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 08:15
#47
19 Nov 2019, 08:15#47

Saffex perv loves his gay friends to death. How revealing.  


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:12
#48
19 Nov 2019, 09:12#48

For the 20th time of asking you beenshit, can you explain how your god made everything out of nothing, and while you are at it who created your god?

I await your special pleading to dance around the obvious. How anyone can read the fucking bible and think that load of horse shit is true really needs to be permanently committed.

The end of religion is in sight, within a couple of centuries it will be confined to a small number of mentally retarded rednecks (beenshits decedents). 

Education and science is freeing man in numbers never seen before but the biggest nail in religion is the internet, people have instant access to knowledge and the churches cannot hide their bullshit/ pedophilia and money grabbing anymore.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:22
#49
19 Nov 2019, 09:22#49
Agreed CFan, religion is being exposed for the fraudulent, corrupt and damaging institution that it is. 
As information and knowledge become more readily availabe, the day is fast approaching where only very stupid people or brainwashed zealots will still cling to these primitive and outdated belief systems. I don't think it will take centuries for religion to die out, more like decades.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:24
#50
19 Nov 2019, 09:24#50

crusadertwit you ignorant jackass, science has now to its extreme embarrassment proved the existence of God. All sane people know nothing can't create a single atom!

God, you clown, was NOT created he has always existed. You cannot have an infinite regression. One of the most powerful arguments for God's existence.

Voltaire spent his life raging against a God he said didn't exist. BUT -

The French philosopher Voltaire once said, ‘A hundred years from my death the Bible will be a museum piece.’ A hundred years after his death the French Bible Society set up its headquarters in Voltaire’s old home in Paris. 

Bwahahahahahahahahaha . N o dumbass the thing doomed to extinction is the very frot atheists. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:35
#51
19 Nov 2019, 09:35#51

Well in that case the universe/matter can also be eternal though maybe not in its present format.

Sorry but if science has proved the existence of a god it would have made headlines around the world but no not even a murmer.

The pseudo "scientist" crap you swallow is not science you moron . a scientific fact could bite them on the arse but they are so stupid they cant even feel it.

The stupid is very strong in you beenshit, have you every spent 1 day at an actual school  with teachers and books or did yo ur lack of IQ stop you from attending?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:39
#52
19 Nov 2019, 09:39#52

No you very ignorant jackasses, the Church is NOT decreasing its increasing in numbers! Hahahhahahahahahaha can these mongs ever get anything right!


The Church is growing, and here are the figures that prove it

For the 31st year in a row the International Bulletin for Missionary Research (IBMR) has produced its state-of-the-globe report on religious statistics. It's a fascinating read and the meticulous work of the Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary-based Centre for the Global Study of Christianity is to be applauded. Here are five trends that struck me as I read through the statistics.

1. The Church is growing slowest in Europe and North America

The good news is that the Church is still growing in Europe and North America. The increase is small, but there is increase nevertheless. Whether the growth is attributable solely to migration or birthrate I am not sure, but there is still a net increase in the number of Christians in the West. Since 1900 the Church in Europe has seen a 52.2 per cent increase, rising from 368,254,000 in 1900 to 559,900,000 in 2015. But alongside the fact that the world's population has grown by 78 per cent in the same period, those statistics don't sound quite so impressive. Even more challenging would be the change in percentage of Europeans that now claim any kind of Christian affiliation, which is not a figure that the IBMR report currently publishes.

Molly Wall, the programme director of Operation World, adds that amid concern for the overall decline in Christians, evangelicals in Europe can feel encouraged as "evangelical Christianity grew in strength and confidence in most European countries from the 1990s to the present, even while the overall population grew slowly or even declined".

2. The Church is growing dramatically in the rest of the world

The Church has seen dramatic and explosive growth in Asia, Africa and South America. The growth of the African Church in particular is jaw-dropping. In 1900 there were fewer than 9 million Christians in Africa. Now there are more than 541 million. In the last 15 years alone, the Church in Africa has seen a 51 per cent increase, which works out on average at around 33,000 people either becoming Christians or being born into Christian families each day in Africa alone.

Strangely, this statistical growth is often met with some scepticism by the western Church. I often hear derogatory remarks about Christianity outside Europe, North America and Australia. There is a superiority complex when it comes to the global Church. There remains a conviction that Western Christians should be congratulated for heading off on teaching ministries to educate church leaders or for raising funds to correct theological challenges in the rest of the world. Christians in Nigeria and South Sudan are facing extreme levels of persecution and the Church is still growing, but it is rare for Christians in the West to think that we have anything to learn from believers there. Very few of our conference speakers, authors, worship leaders or resources originate from 'the rest of the world'.

So despite stupendous growth and spiritual blessing there is still a colonial mindset in western Churches that wishes to downplay God's work in those countries. Perhaps it is time that our conference organisers, publishers and missionary organisations help the Church in the West to reorient its place in the global Church, ensuring that we approach our brothers and sisters in the two-thirds world with greater humility and a willingness to learn.

3. Christianity is easily the world's largest religion

When every form of Christianity is added together there are more than 2.4 billion Christians worldwide. So just over a third of the world's total population claim some kind of Christian faith. This figure includes what we know as nominal Christians, who may know very little of the Christian faith and may not practise their beliefs, but nevertheless in a census declare themselves as Christian. Islam comes second, with 700 million fewer adherents. Christians in the UK need to remember this when they see church services attracting fewer people than they did before, some church buildings being repurposed as restaurants and homes and the Christian faith losing some of the influence and confidence it used to hold in the public square.

Professor Brian Stanley of Edinburgh University's Centre for World Christianity reminds us Christianity "neither began in western Europe, nor has it ever been entirely confined to western Europe. The period in which it appeared to be indissolubly linked to western European identity was a relatively short one, lasting from the early sixteenth to the mid-twentieth centuries." Christianity used to have its global centre in Israel, then later in Syria and eventually in Italy and Turkey. It now seems that the centre of gravity has moved to Africa.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:49
#53
19 Nov 2019, 09:49#53

Per Wikipedia

Accurate demographics of atheism are difficult to obtain since conceptions of atheism vary across different cultures and languages from being an active concept to being unimportant or not developed.[1][2] In global studies, the number of people without a religion is usually higher than the number of people without a belief in a deity[3][4] and the number of people who agree with statements on lacking a belief in a deity is usually higher than the number of people who self-identify as "atheists".[3][1] According to sociologist Phil Zuckerman, broad estimates of those who have an absence of belief in a deity range from 500 to 750 million people worldwide.[5] Other estimates state that there are 200 million to 240 million self-identified atheists worldwide, with China and Russia being major contributors to those figures.[3] According to sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500 million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the world's population), with China having the most atheists in the world (200 million convinced atheists).[6]

Clearly a small lunatic fringe made up mostly of  Chinese and 

Russians. 

But note this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, other earlier global studies have indicated that global atheism may be in decline due to irreligious countries having the lowest birth rates in the world and religious countries having higher birth rates in general.[1] 

Makes sense to me!



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:53
#54
19 Nov 2019, 09:53#54

As a percentage of the world's population, atheism peaked in 1970.[2] Global atheism is expected to decline in the 21st century and beyond in terms of its global market share.[3]

Eric Kaufman on global atheism as a percentage of the world's population

Eric Kaufmann, a professor at Birkbeck College, University of London whose work focuses on how demographic changes affects religion/politics, points out that that the atheist population has a sub-replacement fertility rate while religious fundamentalists have high rates of birth (See: Atheism and fertility rates). .[4]

On December 23, 2012, Professor Eric Kaufmann who teaches at Birbeck College, University of London and whose academic research specialty is how demographic changes affect religion/irreligion and politics, wrote:

I argue that 97% of the world's population growth is taking place in the developing world, where 95% of people are religious.

On the other hand, the secular West and East Asia has very low fertility and a rapidly aging population. .. In the coming decades, the developed world's demand for workers to pay its pensions and work in its service sector will soar alongside the booming supply of young people in the third world. Ergo, we can expect significant immigration to the secular West which will import religious revival on the back of ethnic change. In addition, those with religious beliefs tend to have higher birth rates than the secular population, with fundamentalists having far larger families. The epicentre of these trends will be in immigration gateway cities like New York (a third white), Amsterdam (half Dutch), Los Angeles (28% white), and London, 45% white British.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 09:57
#55
19 Nov 2019, 09:57#55

So what is happening to our slowly dying out atheists. Well ironically their approval of abortion means they are wiping themselves out. if it wasn't such a deadly game it would be hilarious.

How stupid do you get? Well they don't come much dumber than an atheist. God calls them fools and God doesn' t make mistakes!


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 10:04
#56
19 Nov 2019, 10:04#56

Crusadertwit science is now saying matter is not eternal. Science says once there was Nothing now there is something.

Poor rooitwit always used to rely on the argument matter i s eternal but now he has been schooled and really can no longer defend his absurd notion that there is no God. He is done.

Hahahahahahhahahha you atheists are truly FOOLS! Also very ignorant !

Beeno bringing the very ignorant crusadertwit up to date with modern science!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 10:08
#57
19 Nov 2019, 10:08#57

Crusadertwit I suppose going to primary school does it for you, One can see you are an uneducated halfwit who seems to have learned little at school.

As for me I have two undergraduate degrees and one post graduate degree and happen to be a Chartered Accountant.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
19 Nov 2019, 10:52
#58
19 Nov 2019, 10:52#58

Oh my word......

Guys watch out.... step back...….

We have a chartered accountant in our midst...….

Not a fuck...…. I'm gobsmacked……..

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Nov 2019, 12:01
#59
19 Nov 2019, 12:01#59

An accountant beenshit, I bet you are the classic stereotype of one as well, 

no social skills at all (tick) 

cant tie their own shoelaces (tick) 

No sense of humor (tick)

Knows shit about anything  (tick)

Dresses in tweed (tick)

Brown 1950's shoe's (tick)

Smells strongly of mothballs (tick)

Still lives with his mother (tick)

Thanks for providing stats that supports the fact that religion is strongest in the uneducated and weakest in the more educated. This is strongly supported b America as well as for a first world country their education system is as bad as Africa's or South America's 

Doesn't it concern you that most people that believe your religion are uneducated and the more educated someone is the % of Atheists far out numbers the religious fools.

Like every priest/pastor/vicar/evangelical preacher has said there is an unending line of gullible idiots to milk for every penny they have.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Nov 2019, 12:19
#60
19 Nov 2019, 12:19#60
I suspect what happened here is that the people who are unfortunate enough to know the stinking liar, craven coward and gullible fool known as Baboon-ou eventually got tired of calling him a "Complete Arsehole" all the time so they just shortened it to "CA". Baboon-ou then looked it up and now he has these delusions of adequacy.
If this profoundly stupid half-wit ever set foot in a university it would have been as an exhibit for anthropology students studying pre-hominid cranial structures. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 12:51
#61
19 Nov 2019, 12:51#61

Hahahahahhahaha now now boys don't get too jealous! 

Still waiting for you all to explain how a Universe created itself from nothing.

Beeno has these wacked out atheists frothing at the mouth and freaking out. Ranting like lunatics and desperately avoiding the questions posed.

We know nothing can't create anything and whoever did create this universe must be amazing, well like God, but we cant admit that to the bigoted Beeno. What can we do!

We are so smart and after many months should have come up with something. Beeno is making us look like the fools God has called us - it's so unfair Sob Sob!!!

Hey crusadertwit did you make it out of juniour school. Did any of you dumb jackass? Hahahahhahahahhahaha the poor dears are green with envy; as green as an unripe jalapeno!


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 12:56
#62
19 Nov 2019, 12:56#62

Tell me again how the Church is dying, man that was soooo funny. Pity the facts had to intervene!!

Appears you wacked out loons are the vanishing species! The sick twits are aborting themselves out of existence!!!!!!!!!!!! Abortions up to term, now its after term. Sell the body parts and make some money as well. Man does it come sicker than that per vs. What is next , its hard to imagine anything lower but with these pervs anything is possible.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Nov 2019, 13:06
#63
19 Nov 2019, 13:06#63

Amazing how the best educated at the marxist universities of Europe and America are turning out to be fascists who hate free speech, are violent as they can win arguments, are totally dishonest and who have morals that belong in a sewer. They hate themselves, their country and have taken aboard disastrous policies. Everything about these brainwashed noodles is destructive. They believe there are 100 sexes. You can't actually make up their astonishing BS. They vote for their own demise.

Basically these educated loons are becoming a laughing stock. They all parrot the same BS at the same time. They are as gullible as can be and have zero critical thinking ability. Ou rooibozo is a prime example! Obviously it can at times be hilarious!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2019, 15:37
#64
19 Nov 2019, 15:37#64
Churches are closing down left right and centre here in the UK. Hell I lived in a converted chapel at one point As you say chaps the internet has broadened horizons - the youth ask questions they no longer follow like sheep. The youth don’t go to church nor do young adults. Churches are now populated by the aged and ignorant few. In a decade or two there will be very few churches left. Idiots like Folau help to close churches down as no intelligent being is going to accept that a god is burning innocent people in Oz because they stand up for the birth rights of gay people. The out of date out of touch scriptures have long been exposed as a pile of horseshit only a complete idiot would take heed in. It’s simple if there is a god Beenkop provide us with material evidence of his existence. That evidence is not that garbage you copy and paste on here that no one is stupid enough to read except your monkey friend clown cunt. Provide material evidence of his existence you stupid ignorant prick
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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
19 Nov 2019, 15:40
#65
19 Nov 2019, 15:40#65

Well said Saffex. The first world countries are dropping the Church scene like a bad habit. 

It still thrives in the third world, but it has been exposed as a money-making con of hypocrites

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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
19 Nov 2019, 15:42
#66
19 Nov 2019, 15:42#66


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Nov 2019, 15:46
#67
19 Nov 2019, 15:46#67
This all ties up to the article I posted several years ago proving that there's a clear link to intelligence and belief in a god where the stupider a person is the more likely they are to believe in a god.
I would have thought that a bible-bashing god-botherer like Baboon-ou with the intelligence of a pot plant would be all the proof anyone needs, but if the board admins ever fix the facility to search for historical posts I'll put up the link to my original post on this matter. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2019, 16:39
#68
19 Nov 2019, 16:39#68
I am also of the opinion that bible bashing church goers are weak individuals. They are defined by their faith, it’s their crutch. Only weak people need crutches My life is defined by what I make of it, it is certainly not defined by prehistoric scriptures and some Oupa sunbathing on a cloud How fucking weak. Grow a set of balls stand on your own two feed, stop needing to lean
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Nov 2019, 17:31
#69
19 Nov 2019, 17:31#69

Hey Saffex, no problem, you are entitled to your opinion...you being a lawyer, how old are the writings and customs most Western Countries' legal systems are based on?

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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
19 Nov 2019, 18:09
#70
19 Nov 2019, 18:09#70

DraadTrekker, laws continue to evolve and improve. Unlike religion which is stagnant. 

Compare Moses 10 commandments as a basic constitution, to that in the best countries in this day and age. There is no comparison. Slavery and many other archaic practises endorsed by God in the Bible, are not allowed today. 

Move with the times, instead of relying on the dogma of anci ent people. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Nov 2019, 20:34
#71
19 Nov 2019, 20:34#71

Snark, you assume too much and know too little....jy het die klok hoor lui, maar weet bie waar die bel hang nie. Stick with what you know and forget about what you think you know.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Nov 2019, 20:34
#72
19 Nov 2019, 20:34#72

Snark, you assume too much and know too little....jy het die klok hoor lui, maar weet bie waar die bel hang nie. Stick with what you know and forget about what you think you know.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Nov 2019, 20:34
#73
19 Nov 2019, 20:34#73
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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
19 Nov 2019, 21:26
#74
19 Nov 2019, 21:26#74

Draad I have schooled you once again. I live to give. 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
19 Nov 2019, 21:55
#75
19 Nov 2019, 21:55#75
There is definitely something lost with the decline of religion, a sort of selfishness and self-centeredness has made people people ignorant and indifferent in a way religion didn't. Hatred in religious extremism is simple to understand, not sure where this new strain comes from. 
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
20 Nov 2019, 03:05
#76
20 Nov 2019, 03:05#76
God creates stillborn babies all the time...even to honest God fearing Christian parents. Of course he is against abortion, he doesn't want humans interfering with one of his little pleasures. He also "creates fires" that kill his own Christian followers to punish the pescy gays. In such cases he is happy to intervene in the ways of the world. Of course he would never intervene when armed gunmen walk into one of his churches and mow down his congregants.... noooooo.... that would impede free will. Of course, the free will of those mowed down church goers who did not want to be murdered is....um...not as important as the shooter....wait....I'm lost....it makes no sense....no matter...Christians have faith. Faith fixes all inexplicable Christian bigotry and contradiction. "But Mr Christian, I also have faith." Said Mr Muslim."But your faith is silly, and your book of faith is wrong. My book of faith says so." Said Mr Christian"But my book of faith says YOUR book of faith is wrong, and I have absolute faith that my faith is right." Implored Mr Muslim.Overhearing the argument Mr Jew looked up from his newspaper...."But my faith says......."Just then God DIDN'T intervene and clear things up because........he preferred watching them all fight, and all because he was so infinitely clever he gave none of them enough evidence to prove anything.
You really have to laugh at the stupidity and bigotry of it all. 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
20 Nov 2019, 03:20
#77
20 Nov 2019, 03:20#77
A defence a christian mate of mine had spoke to how the majority of the bible is a man-made creation, that he didn't draw all his religion from it. He takes the basic messages from the bible and filters out the crap that he deemed as additions that reflected the period and not the religion. Pretty fair if you ask me. 
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
20 Nov 2019, 03:29
#78
20 Nov 2019, 03:29#78
No Shezza, not fair. How does anyone know which parts to personalise and which ones to ignore? Either you believe the bible or you don't. Otherwise you just land up with a giant clusterfuck, w here a million different Christian offshoots have their own contradictory interpretations. Which incidentally is exactly what we have. Now throw the other religions into the mix and boom....worldwide mass stupidity. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Nov 2019, 03:47
#79
20 Nov 2019, 03:47#79

Religion could be a wonderful thing if it wasn't for the money laundering, interpretations and contradictions.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
20 Nov 2019, 04:04
#80
20 Nov 2019, 04:04#80
That's a conversation which you need to have with him, I'm guessing that the bible definitely took the contemporary way of thinking in to consideration during its creation. So readjusting ones faith to the time of the individuals life is fine by my standard.  Worldwide mass stupidity or progression? 
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